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  • ncovert
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Feb 2011
    • 291
    • USA

    #1

    What motherboard is this?

    Hi all, I thought I would share an old motherboard... this one's a generic Socket 7 ATX board. No branding on it whatsoever. It has diagrams to show you how to set it up properly, but I don't know how to set it up to accept an AMD K6-2 450Mhz, and am questioning whether it can actually support one... Originally had a Pentium MMX 233Mhz in it.
    Pic 1: Overall shot of the board.
    Pic 2: Bar code.
    Pic 3: Other numbers.
    Pics 4-6: Diagrams
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  • b700029
    Banned
    • Sep 2010
    • 640

    #2
    Re: What motherboard is this?

    What does the BIOS say at the POST screen? Specifically the bottom (or two) lines, which contain the chipset and motherboard revision info.

    Also, even if it could run at the 100FSB needed for that CPU, the VRM might not be sufficient.

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    • mockingbird
      Badcaps Legend
      • Dec 2008
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      #3
      Re: What motherboard is this?

      That must have come out of a brand name machine... Check out the all-tantalum caps. That's how they used to make em back in the day.

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      • ratdude747
        Black Sheep
        • Nov 2008
        • 17136
        • USA

        #4
        Re: What motherboard is this?

        yeah, it may only be socket 7, not super 7.
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        • Spitz
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2010
          • 95

          #5
          Re: What motherboard is this?

          Originally posted by ncovert
          Hi all, I thought I would share an old motherboard... this one's a generic Socket 7 ATX board. No branding on it whatsoever. It has diagrams to show you how to set it up properly, but I don't know how to set it up to accept an AMD K6-2 450Mhz, and am questioning whether it can actually support one... Originally had a Pentium MMX 233Mhz in it.

          It would need a jumper for a 100m clock to support the 450. Does it have a setting for 100m clock, your picture show the multiplier but does not show the clock speeds.

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          • Spitz
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2010
            • 95

            #6
            Re: What motherboard is this?

            Originally posted by ncovert
            Hi all, I thought I would share an old motherboard... this one's a generic Socket 7 ATX board. No branding on it whatsoever. It has diagrams to show you how to set it up properly, but I don't know how to set it up to accept an AMD K6-2 450Mhz, and am questioning whether it can actually support one... Originally had a Pentium MMX 233Mhz in it.
            On further checking, the board was made by intel for hp. The correct part # is the 686451-104 number. Still do not know if it will work with the amd k6.

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            • pfrcom
              Oldbie
              • Jun 2006
              • 1230
              • Australia

              #7
              Re: What motherboard is this?

              Unlikely

              Intel branded boards probably don't offer Vcore setting for 2.2v required by a K6 processor

              Vcore for Pentium MMX processors is 2.8v

              Unless you can ascertain and Google the exact Intel model, and find an enthusiast site with jumper settings for 2.2v

              Similar to what you get by Googling "k6 p55t2p4"
              better to keep quiet and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt

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              • ratdude747
                Black Sheep
                • Nov 2008
                • 17136
                • USA

                #8
                Re: What motherboard is this?

                yeah.

                if intel made, it isn't super 7... plain and simple. Intel had no intention of using 2.2v and this never put it in the design.
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                • b700029
                  Banned
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 640

                  #9
                  Re: What motherboard is this?

                  VRMs weren't as complicated as they are today.

                  It might not be difficult to get 2.2 instead of 2.8v with a simple voltmod.

                  Whether there is enough amperage is a different issue.

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                  • ratdude747
                    Black Sheep
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 17136
                    • USA

                    #10
                    Re: What motherboard is this?

                    Well, even if you could mod the VRM, you would also need to mod the BIOS most likely... otherwise, it may be like "WTF is a K6-2? ERROR!!!!"
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                    • lti
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • May 2011
                      • 2551
                      • United States

                      #11
                      Re: What motherboard is this?

                      Originally posted by ratdude747
                      Well, even if you could mod the VRM, you would also need to mod the BIOS most likely... otherwise, it may be like "WTF is a K6-2? ERROR!!!!"
                      My Compaq freaks out when I try to run the preinstalled diagnostics software after putting a 500MHz K6-2 in it. The BIOS doesn't recognize anything better than a K6-2/400, so the diagnostic software sees a K6-2/500 and goes . The board is designed to be used with K6-2s, even though it isn't a Super 7 board.

                      It should be possible to modify that HP/Intel board to run with a 400MHz K6-2. With that heatsink, you won't have to worry about overheating the voltage regulator if it is modified to produce 2.2V. I have a Gateway "Anigma 586" board that doesn't have heatsinks on any of the voltage regulator components (an IRFZ44N MOSFET and a 10A diode). The modified BIOS is actually the easiest part of the modifications.

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                      • ratdude747
                        Black Sheep
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 17136
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: What motherboard is this?

                        Originally posted by lti
                        My Compaq freaks out when I try to run the preinstalled diagnostics software after putting a 500MHz K6-2 in it. The BIOS doesn't recognize anything better than a K6-2/400, so the diagnostic software sees a K6-2/500 and goes . The board is designed to be used with K6-2s, even though it isn't a Super 7 board.

                        It should be possible to modify that HP/Intel board to run with a 400MHz K6-2. With that heatsink, you won't have to worry about overheating the voltage regulator if it is modified to produce 2.2V. I have a Gateway "Anigma 586" board that doesn't have heatsinks on any of the voltage regulator components (an IRFZ44N MOSFET and a 10A diode). The modified BIOS is actually the easiest part of the modifications.
                        there is a HUGE difference between CAN and SHOULD.

                        Can you do it? probably. Should you do it? Maybe, maybe not.

                        If it were me, I'd toss in a 233mhz MMX and call it a day... it was not designed for the (at the time) non-existant super 7 CPUs.
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                        • mariushm
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • May 2011
                          • 3799

                          #13
                          Re: What motherboard is this?

                          It looks like that board has the jumper for the frequency removed, so it only supports 66 Mhz.

                          The multiplier also shows 1.5x to 3.x but on some Super7 boards, you could set the multimplier to 1.5x and get 3.5x or 4.5x - I had a PC Chips Elpina M577 that did this, if I remember correctly.
                          That board looks like it does a max of 3.0 x 66 Mhz - I'd say don't bother with it.

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                          • Mad_Professor
                            A Mech Warrior
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 1587

                            #14
                            Re: What motherboard is this?

                            I took one look at the picture and instantly recognized it as an intel board. How weird.

                            Anyways I can tell you right now that thing won't take a K6-2, not without a bios flash. They may not have a bios for it. I know some S7 boards can take the K6-2 450-600 with a simple bios flash, and updated jumper guide/manual. If this thing is locked at 66, the chipset won't take it. This is true for boards that have edo ram and SDRam slots but also for boards that only can take pc66 SDR. So you're out of luck.

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                            • PCBONEZ
                              Grumpy Old Fart
                              • Aug 2005
                              • 10661
                              • USA

                              #15
                              Re: What motherboard is this?

                              It's an Intel LT430TX board.
                              .
                              An "AA" number is a dead give-away that it's an Intel board.
                              No, it's not Super-7. - Has TX chipset.
                              Takes P-90 (non-MMX) to P-233MMX.
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                              • ncovert
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                                • Feb 2011
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                                #16
                                Re: What motherboard is this?

                                Originally posted by Spitz
                                On further checking, the board was made by intel for hp. The correct part # is the 686451-104 number. Still do not know if it will work with the amd k6.
                                Odd, this came out of a Micron PC.

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                                • ncovert
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                                  #17
                                  Re: What motherboard is this?

                                  Originally posted by PCBONEZ
                                  It's an Intel LT430TX board.
                                  .
                                  An "AA" number is a dead give-away that it's an Intel board.
                                  No, it's not Super-7. - Has TX chipset.
                                  Takes P-90 (non-MMX) to P-233MMX.
                                  .
                                  You're right, it did have a Pentium MMX 233Mhz. I guess it doesn't support AMD K6-x processors

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                                  • ncovert
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                                    #18
                                    Re: What motherboard is this?

                                    Originally posted by ratdude747
                                    there is a HUGE difference between CAN and SHOULD.

                                    Can you do it? probably. Should you do it? Maybe, maybe not.

                                    If it were me, I'd toss in a 233mhz MMX and call it a day... it was not designed for the (at the time) non-existant super 7 CPUs.
                                    Yeah, I think I'll do that. Throw in a Pentium MMX 233Mhz, 64Mb of RAM, and a small hard drive, great machine for Windows 95 (with USB support since the board has it) or 98.

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                                    • PCBONEZ
                                      Grumpy Old Fart
                                      • Aug 2005
                                      • 10661
                                      • USA

                                      #19
                                      Re: What motherboard is this?

                                      The model number is LT430TX

                                      The AA number is funky on that sticker. It's normally written like AA686451-104
                                      AA stands for "Altered Assembly" and is more or less a build version number.
                                      If (say) they change MOSFETs it will get a new AA number but the "LT430TX Rev.(whatever)" won't necessarily change.
                                      Sometimes the AA number determines what CPU's or RAM are supported.

                                      Sometimes searching the AA number is a good way to look them up.
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                                      • joshnz
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                                        • Feb 2011
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                                        #20
                                        Re: What motherboard is this?

                                        Originally posted by ncovert
                                        Great machine for Windows 95 (with USB support since the board has it) or 98.
                                        98SE for usb.
                                        My pc
                                        CPU : AMD PHENOM II x4 @ 3.5Ghz
                                        MB : ASUS M4A89TD PRO USB3
                                        RAM : Kingston ValueRAM 16gb DDR3
                                        PSU : Cooler Master 850W Silent Pro
                                        GPU : ATI Radeon HD 6850

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