Panasonic FJ/FL genuine or not?

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  • kItE80
    Member
    • Jan 2014
    • 14
    • Italy

    #1

    Panasonic FJ/FL genuine or not?

    I bought these caps on e**y from HK and I would like to know if they are genuine. Thanks

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    Last edited by Per Hansson; 12-06-2019, 12:43 PM. Reason: Offsite image uploaded
  • goodpsusearch
    Badcaps Legend
    • Oct 2009
    • 2850
    • Greece

    #2
    Re: Panasonic FJ/FL genuine or not?

    I think they look genuine to me.

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    • kItE80
      Member
      • Jan 2014
      • 14
      • Italy

      #3
      Re: Panasonic FJ/FL genuine or not?

      Thank you, I needed a confirmation.

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      • momaka
        master hoarder
        • May 2008
        • 12175
        • Bulgaria

        #4
        Re: Panasonic FJ/FL genuine or not?

        I would say they look genuine to me as well. I just compared them to a few 16V 1500 uF Panny FL caps that I pulled from an Xbox 360.

        Can we see a picture of the voltage/capacitance rating and another of the bungs too? Just to really make sure they are legit.
        Last edited by momaka; 01-14-2014, 10:59 AM.

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        • LLLlllou
          Badcaps Veteran
          • May 2011
          • 201
          • USA

          #5
          Re: Panasonic FJ/FL genuine or not?

          +1 genuine

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          • ben7
            Capaholic
            • Jan 2011
            • 4059
            • USA

            #6
            Re: Panasonic FJ/FL genuine or not?

            They look like the right bungs.

            However, is that a picture you took? If not, we need to see the pics of the caps you got. Some sellers will fool you by putting pics of good caps on the listing, then give you fake ones.
            Muh-soggy-knee

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            • kItE80
              Member
              • Jan 2014
              • 14
              • Italy

              #7
              Re: Panasonic FJ/FL genuine or not?

              Originally posted by momaka
              I would say they look genuine to me as well. I just compared them to a few 16V 1500 uF Panny FL caps that I pulled from an Xbox 360.

              Can we see a picture of the voltage/capacitance rating and another of the bungs too? Just to really make sure they are legit.
              Of course. This is the voltage/capacitance picture. The pictures are mine.

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              Last edited by Per Hansson; 12-06-2019, 12:44 PM. Reason: Offsite image uploaded

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              • kc8adu
                Super Moderator
                • Nov 2003
                • 8832
                • U.S.A!

                #8
                Re: Panasonic FJ/FL genuine or not?

                look real to me

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                • c_hegge
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 5219
                  • Australia

                  #9
                  Re: Panasonic FJ/FL genuine or not?

                  Yup. I've seen plenty of identical-looking Panny FJs on motherboards.
                  I love putting bad caps and flat batteries in fire and watching them explode!!

                  No wonder it doesn't work! You installed the jumper wires backwards

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                  • kItE80
                    Member
                    • Jan 2014
                    • 14
                    • Italy

                    #10
                    Re: Panasonic FJ/FL genuine or not?

                    I welded these on my 10 years old motherboard, they are certainly better than GSC (Great Sh*t Caps).

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                    • momaka
                      master hoarder
                      • May 2008
                      • 12175
                      • Bulgaria

                      #11
                      Re: Panasonic FJ/FL genuine or not?

                      Originally posted by kItE80
                      they are certainly better than GSC (Great Sh*t Caps).
                      For sure

                      Mind if I ask what motherboard?

                      I just recapped a Jetway N2PAP-LITE about 2 weeks ago (also about 10 years old). Was full of GSC and they were all reading high capacitance on the ESR meter (meaning they have actually developed high internal leackage). Yes, every single one of them! And the really small ones were at least several Ohms ESR each.

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                      • kItE80
                        Member
                        • Jan 2014
                        • 14
                        • Italy

                        #12
                        Re: Panasonic FJ/FL genuine or not?

                        The mb is a Via P4PB-400.
                        I have changed CPU caps four years ago (replaced with Sanyo WG) and now I recapped the capacitors on 16 Volts line.

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                        • LLLlllou
                          Badcaps Veteran
                          • May 2011
                          • 201
                          • USA

                          #13
                          Re: Panasonic FJ/FL genuine or not?

                          Originally posted by kItE80
                          Of course. This is the voltage/capacitance picture. The pictures are mine.
                          Which seller did you order from?

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                          • ant3202
                            Badcaps Veteran
                            • Jun 2006
                            • 275
                            • Singapore

                            #14
                            Re: Panasonic FJ/FL genuine or not?

                            my 1000uF 6.3V looks similar like yours...
                            dissect one of it... the chemical colour looks correct...

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                            • socketa
                              Asbelowsoabove
                              • Jun 2014
                              • 661
                              • samsara

                              #15
                              Re: Panasonic FJ/FL genuine or not?

                              ...Since i can't see the original photos, what are the odds that these capacitors (possibly from the same source) are not fake?:
                              i.e. is there any genuine black/white, (instead of black/gold) FJ's out there
                              They measure about 950uf and 0.11 ESR
                              (the apparent missing print on the last photo is only an illusion cased by the lighting)




                              Last edited by socketa; 12-04-2019, 11:32 PM.

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                              • stj
                                Great Sage ι½Šε€©ε€§θ–
                                • Dec 2009
                                • 31086
                                • Albion

                                #16
                                Re: Panasonic FJ/FL genuine or not?

                                given neither have been made in many years - what does it matter?

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                                • socketa
                                  Asbelowsoabove
                                  • Jun 2014
                                  • 661
                                  • samsara

                                  #17
                                  Re: Panasonic FJ/FL genuine or not?

                                  so all electrolytic caps, that are "many years" old, should be thrown away?
                                  Last edited by socketa; 12-05-2019, 12:12 PM.

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                                  • Wester547
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                                    • Nov 2011
                                    • 1268
                                    • USA.

                                    #18
                                    Re: Panasonic FJ/FL genuine or not?

                                    I can't see the attachments. If they (the capacitors) are sourced from eBay and/or from Hong Kong, chances are they could be counterfeits. I've seen Panasonic FJ, FJS, and FL with black/white sleeves used on Pegatron motherboards manufactured after 2008/2009 or thereabouts. I suspect it was due to the switch from PVC to PET sleeves, as with the long discontinued Rubycon MBZ, MCZ, and MFZ series going from PVC blue/gold and black/gold sleeves to PET black/white sleeves.

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                                    • stj
                                      Great Sage ι½Šε€©ε€§θ–
                                      • Dec 2009
                                      • 31086
                                      • Albion

                                      #19
                                      Re: Panasonic FJ/FL genuine or not?

                                      Originally posted by socketa
                                      so all electrolytic caps, that are "many years" old, should be thrown away?
                                      no, but you shouldnt buy any,
                                      and old stock may need to be re-formed.

                                      i have had rubycon MCZ explode on me simply because a motherboard had not been powered for several years.
                                      it slowly lost charge and depolarised in the box!

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                                      • momaka
                                        master hoarder
                                        • May 2008
                                        • 12175
                                        • Bulgaria

                                        #20
                                        Re: Panasonic FJ/FL genuine or not?

                                        Originally posted by socketa
                                        ...Since i can't see the original photos, what are the odds that these capacitors (possibly from the same source) are not fake?:
                                        i.e. is there any genuine black/white, (instead of black/gold) FJ's out there
                                        Not sure, but I would have to dig out my XFX Radeon HD 4670 video card. It has black/white/gray Panny caps on it. Though they might be FR's, I can't remember.

                                        If I don't reply, remind me again in a few days and I'll dig out that box that it's in. (I just don't feel like doing it right now, as it's close to midnight, lol. )
                                        Last edited by momaka; 12-05-2019, 10:22 PM.

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