Vizio M502i-B1 Power Supply Issue

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  • nomoresonys
    Badcaps Legend
    • Jan 2013
    • 12075
    • U.S.

    #21
    Re: Vizio M502i-B1 Power Supply Issue

    The 20-30 seconds to turn on makes me think a weak capacitor somewhere, probably on powerboard, the startup caps maybe.

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    • JunkmanJimbo
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2017
      • 192
      • United States

      #22
      Re: Vizio M502i-B1 Power Supply Issue

      R_J posted earlier in the thread to replace C9805, C9308 and C9112 and also C9305 to hopefully fix the problem.

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      • nomoresonys
        Badcaps Legend
        • Jan 2013
        • 12075
        • U.S.

        #23
        Re: Vizio M502i-B1 Power Supply Issue

        Indeed, if you had one of those 4 or 5 dollar esr meters from ebay you could take m off the board n check m.

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        • JunkmanJimbo
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2017
          • 192
          • United States

          #24
          Re: Vizio M502i-B1 Power Supply Issue

          I actually do have a meter to check caps. I have an assortment of caps arriving tomorrow and I was going to check them then so I would have a replacement. I will update tomorrow or Monday with the outcome. Thanks to all you guys for your help.

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          • nomoresonys
            Badcaps Legend
            • Jan 2013
            • 12075
            • U.S.

            #25
            Re: Vizio M502i-B1 Power Supply Issue

            Lol, ok, I assumed that you didn't have one, a good example to never assume, especially when troubleshooting.

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            • JunkmanJimbo
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2017
              • 192
              • United States

              #26
              Re: Vizio M502i-B1 Power Supply Issue

              My capacitors came a day early. I replaced C9805, C9308 and C9122 and also C9305 that R_J mentioned but unfortunately that didn't fix the problem. Does anybody have any other suggestions?
              Last edited by JunkmanJimbo; 03-22-2020, 08:32 AM.

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              • nomoresonys
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                • Jan 2013
                • 12075
                • U.S.

                #27
                Re: Vizio M502i-B1 Power Supply Issue

                So what are those voltages now, still getting the 1.1?

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                • JunkmanJimbo
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2017
                  • 192
                  • United States

                  #28
                  Re: Vizio M502i-B1 Power Supply Issue

                  No change. Everything is still the same as it was before I replaced the capacitors.

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                  • CapLeaker
                    Leaking Member
                    • Dec 2014
                    • 7967
                    • Canada

                    #29
                    Re: Vizio M502i-B1 Power Supply Issue

                    I figured that would be the case. BLon is created on the main board not on the PSU and the STBY voltage was good while the on / off pin is low. BLon goes from the main board to one connector of the psu, through jumpers, then one SMD resistor and then out the other connector to the LED driver board. The LED driver board can't load the BLon pin down, because of this SMD resistor on the back. It has to be a main board problem or a chaffed wire grounding out or something stupid.

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                    • JunkmanJimbo
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2017
                      • 192
                      • United States

                      #30
                      Re: Vizio M502i-B1 Power Supply Issue

                      I've changed the mainboard 3 or 4 times and get the same result. I will check the wiring a little closer. So, you don't think there could be another problem on the power supply?

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                      • nomoresonys
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Jan 2013
                        • 12075
                        • U.S.

                        #31
                        Re: Vizio M502i-B1 Power Supply Issue

                        Get the resistor and do the test in CapLeaker's post #16, it's not a hard test and it will tell you if the powerboard is doing as it should.

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                        • JunkmanJimbo
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2017
                          • 192
                          • United States

                          #32
                          Re: Vizio M502i-B1 Power Supply Issue

                          I would need more detailed instructions and abbreviation meanings to even consider doing that. Can you help me with that?

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                          • budm
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 40746
                            • USA

                            #33
                            Re: Vizio M502i-B1 Power Supply Issue

                            Did you check the DC Voltage between the two legs of the main filter cap to see if the PFC Boosted Voltage (380 ~ 400VDC) is present or not when PS-ON is present?
                            Never stop learning
                            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                            Inverter testing using old CFL:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                            TV Factory reset codes listing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                            • JunkmanJimbo
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2017
                              • 192
                              • United States

                              #34
                              Re: Vizio M502i-B1 Power Supply Issue

                              BudM, I'm not sure how to do what you're saying. Can you give specific instructions on how to do that? Sorry but I'm not very good at board level testing.

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                              • nomoresonys
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Jan 2013
                                • 12075
                                • U.S.

                                #35
                                Re: Vizio M502i-B1 Power Supply Issue

                                Good testing tutorial there, might help: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocqnqmBxiqY

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                                • JunkmanJimbo
                                  Senior Member
                                  • Mar 2017
                                  • 192
                                  • United States

                                  #36
                                  Re: Vizio M502i-B1 Power Supply Issue

                                  I will definitely take a look at that. Thank you nomoresonys.

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                                  • nomoresonys
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Jan 2013
                                    • 12075
                                    • U.S.

                                    #37
                                    Re: Vizio M502i-B1 Power Supply Issue

                                    As always be careful working on the DEADLY HOT/PRIMARY side of the powerboard, watch out what you touch with your hands, use the meter probes, keep hands back.

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                                    • budm
                                      Badcaps Legend
                                      • Feb 2010
                                      • 40746
                                      • USA

                                      #38
                                      Re: Vizio M502i-B1 Power Supply Issue

                                      At least plug what ever you are working on into GFCI outlet.
                                      Never stop learning
                                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                      • JunkmanJimbo
                                        Senior Member
                                        • Mar 2017
                                        • 192
                                        • United States

                                        #39
                                        Re: Vizio M502i-B1 Power Supply Issue

                                        Well guys, I finally decided to replace the power supply and that fixed the TV. I still wish I could figure out what's wrong with the defective board so I could repair it and sell it to offset some of the cost of the replacement board. I've been looking for repair kit for this board but can't find one other than one on ebay and they won't sell to me for some reason. Does anybody know where I can get a repair kit for this board? Thanks for all the help and sorry for the long post.

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                                        • JunkmanJimbo
                                          Senior Member
                                          • Mar 2017
                                          • 192
                                          • United States

                                          #40
                                          Re: Vizio M502i-B1 Power Supply Issue

                                          Still trying to repair this power supply. I ordered a kit off Ebay and installed those components but that didn't fix the problem. Another problem I noticed could be the whole problem. When I install the old power supply, if I unplug the power cord and hold in the power button on the TV for 30 seconds, and plug it back in, the TV won't do anything. No standby light, nothing. As if there is no power. Could that be a voltage regulator issue? If not does anyone have any ideas? The only way I can get power back is unplug the cable from the main board and plug it back in, then I have power again. This was mentioned in an earlier post. Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.
                                          Last edited by JunkmanJimbo; 04-13-2020, 05:45 PM.

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