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  • Bloopeta
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Jun 2018
    • 526
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    #1

    Samsung UE40F6320AK on / off boot loop problems

    Hi,
    I have a Samsung UE40F6320AK stuck in boot / start up loop when I turn it on it boots up to the logo screen then shuts itself of and back on again continuously.

    I have removed the back, and no obvious bad capacitors, I have unplugged and cleaned all cables and connectors

    I have tried isolating parts individually, I tried unplugging wifi module, bluetooth module, power button/remote sensor, to no avail.

    I tried unplugging Tcon, exact same prob. Cable to backlights etc.

    The only time anything differs is, if I unplug video board from power board, it still loops on and off, however it does it twice as fast.

    When I unplug the main power cable from the TV, it still clicks as if turning on and off for a few seconds, aprox 3 or 4 times, before it actually becomes silent.

    Any help where to start with this or where to end with it greatly appeciated.
  • budm
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2010
    • 40746
    • USA

    #2
    Re: Samsung UE40F6320AK on / off boot loop problems

    Lets see good clear pictures of the whole backside of the TV showing all the boards so we can see what we are dealing with.
    Never stop learning
    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

    Inverter testing using old CFL:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

    TV Factory reset codes listing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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    • Bloopeta
      Badcaps Veteran
      • Jun 2018
      • 526
      • United Kingdom

      #3
      Re: Samsung UE40F6320AK on / off boot loop problems

      Thankyou for your reply.
      Here are the pics as requested, if you require anymore please let me know.
      Attached Files

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      • nomoresonys
        Badcaps Legend
        • Jan 2013
        • 12094
        • U.S.

        #4
        Re: Samsung UE40F6320AK on / off boot loop problems

        Could try eeprom reset, hold a wire from EEPROM_GND to EEPROM_SDA power up tv for about 20 seconds remove wire then turn tv off, so for reference we will say that FA_TX is number 1, you want the wire on numbers 4 and 6 which is eeprom-gnd and eeprom-sda. DO NOT PUT IT ON FA_TX.
        Last edited by nomoresonys; 10-12-2019, 08:57 AM.

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        • Bloopeta
          Badcaps Veteran
          • Jun 2018
          • 526
          • United Kingdom

          #5
          Re: Samsung UE40F6320AK on / off boot loop problems

          Originally posted by nomoresonys
          Could try eeprom reset, hold a wire from EEPROM_GND to EEPROM_SDA power up tv for about 20 seconds remove wire then turn tv off, so for reference we will say that FA_TX is number 1, you want the wire on numbers 4 and 6 which is eeprom-gnd and eeprom-sda. DO NOT PUT IT ON FA_TX.

          Have tried this, made no difference
          Last edited by Bloopeta; 10-12-2019, 10:21 AM.

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          • raydem
            Member
            • Dec 2012
            • 27
            • spain

            #6
            Re: Samsung UE40F6320AK on / off boot loop problems

            Could you re-program the eeprom? It is like the eeprom is corrupt.

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            • Bloopeta
              Badcaps Veteran
              • Jun 2018
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              #7
              Re: Samsung UE40F6320AK on / off boot loop problems

              Originally posted by raydem
              Could you re-program the eeprom? It is like the eeprom is corrupt.
              I wouldnt know where to start lol

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              • Bloopeta
                Badcaps Veteran
                • Jun 2018
                • 526
                • United Kingdom

                #8
                Re: Samsung UE40F6320AK on / off boot loop problems

                Would it be the eeprom though? As if I unplug the main cable prom the PSU to video board, its still does the same??

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                • Bloopeta
                  Badcaps Veteran
                  • Jun 2018
                  • 526
                  • United Kingdom

                  #9
                  Re: Samsung UE40F6320AK on / off boot loop problems

                  Not sure if its worth mentioning, but before trying eeprom reset, after plugging TV in, it would go into standby, and I would have to turn on via remote or power button to get it to the looping stage, however after attempting eeprom reset, now as soon as the TV is plugged in, it tries to start automatically without having to press anything.

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                  • yokoono
                    Badcaps Veteran
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 479

                    #10
                    Re: Samsung UE40F6320AK on / off boot loop problems

                    Put the TV in the socket and immediately put on the nand memory with freeze spray (-55 celsius degrees). You have a chance to get out of the loop. Then do a factory reset.

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                    • Bloopeta
                      Badcaps Veteran
                      • Jun 2018
                      • 526
                      • United Kingdom

                      #11
                      Re: Samsung UE40F6320AK on / off boot loop problems

                      I have tested power board outputs without anything pluged into power board, the results when it clicks are

                      1. N/C 0
                      2. P/DIM4 Jumps
                      3. D-ON/OFF Jumps
                      4. P/DIM3 Jumps
                      5. GND
                      6. P/DIM2 Jumps
                      7. B13V Jumps
                      8. P/DIM1 Jumps
                      9. B13V Jumps
                      10. N.C. 0
                      11.VAMP Jumps
                      12. BLU ON/OFF Jumps
                      13. VAMP Jumps
                      14. GND
                      15. GND
                      16. GND
                      17. B5V Jumps
                      18. A5V Jumps between 5.27 and 5.26
                      19. B5V Jumps
                      20.PWR ON/OFF 0.87v jumps upto 2.3?v

                      All the ones I have wriiten just jumps beside, jump from 0

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                      • dick_barton
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Aug 2015
                        • 6642
                        • Wales

                        #12
                        Re: Samsung UE40F6320AK on / off boot loop problems

                        If you disconnect the power supply from the main board and jumper A5V to PWR ON/OFF using a 1K resistor and switch on, does the B5V and B13 supplies come on.
                        Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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                        • Bloopeta
                          Badcaps Veteran
                          • Jun 2018
                          • 526
                          • United Kingdom

                          #13
                          Re: Samsung UE40F6320AK on / off boot loop problems

                          Originally posted by dick_barton
                          If you disconnect the power supply from the main board and jumper A5V to PWR ON/OFF using a 1K resistor and switch on, does the B5V and B13 supplies come on.
                          Ill get a 1k resistor and try

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                          • budm
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 40746
                            • USA

                            #14
                            Re: Samsung UE40F6320AK on / off boot loop problems

                            "20.PWR ON/OFF 0.87v jumps upto 2.3?v"
                            So the PS-ON pin is jumping up and down between 0.87 and 2.3V?
                            BTW, PS-ON pin has built-in pull up SMD resistor R5852 to pull PS-ON pin high for power supply self test.

                            Samsung BN44-00622D
                            https://www.shopjimmy.com/samsung-bn...led-board.htm#
                            Last edited by budm; 10-13-2019, 05:29 PM.
                            Never stop learning
                            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                            Inverter testing using old CFL:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                            TV Factory reset codes listing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                            • Bloopeta
                              Badcaps Veteran
                              • Jun 2018
                              • 526
                              • United Kingdom

                              #15
                              Re: Samsung UE40F6320AK on / off boot loop problems

                              Originally posted by budm
                              "20.PWR ON/OFF 0.87v jumps upto 2.3?v"
                              So the PS-ON pin is jumping up and down between 0.87 and 2.3V?
                              BTW, PS-ON pin has built-in pull up SMD resistor R5852 to pull PS-ON pin high for power supply self test.

                              Samsung BN44-00622D
                              https://www.shopjimmy.com/samsung-bn...led-board.htm#
                              Hi yes, it 0.87, then when clicks jumps up to 2.3something volts, then when clicks less than a second later goes back down to 0.87, then repeats in continuos loop

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                              • budm
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 40746
                                • USA

                                #16
                                Re: Samsung UE40F6320AK on / off boot loop problems

                                Are you 100% sure that the A5V is not jumping between <2 V and 5V?
                                Never stop learning
                                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                • Bloopeta
                                  Badcaps Veteran
                                  • Jun 2018
                                  • 526
                                  • United Kingdom

                                  #17
                                  Re: Samsung UE40F6320AK on / off boot loop problems

                                  Originally posted by budm
                                  Are you 100% sure that the A5V is not jumping between <2 V and 5V?
                                  Hi, yes sure, unless im testing the wrong pin, ive attached pics and marked it in red.
                                  Attached Files

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                                  • Bloopeta
                                    Badcaps Veteran
                                    • Jun 2018
                                    • 526
                                    • United Kingdom

                                    #18
                                    Re: Samsung UE40F6320AK on / off boot loop problems

                                    If thats the correct pin, this is the reading
                                    Attached Files

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                                    • dick_barton
                                      Badcaps Legend
                                      • Aug 2015
                                      • 6642
                                      • Wales

                                      #19
                                      Re: Samsung UE40F6320AK on / off boot loop problems

                                      The pin numbers are given alongside the socket.
                                      Attached Files
                                      Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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                                      • Bloopeta
                                        Badcaps Veteran
                                        • Jun 2018
                                        • 526
                                        • United Kingdom

                                        #20
                                        Re: Samsung UE40F6320AK on / off boot loop problems

                                        Originally posted by dick_barton
                                        The pin numbers are given alongside the socket.
                                        Yeah I was just double checking incase I had the top and bottom mixed up lol, ive ordered 1k resistors to check what you suggested, ill update you with the results when they arrive.

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