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  • lucidbarrier
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2012
    • 84
    • USA

    #21
    Re: Samsun LN32B550K1F with BN44-00261A burnt out IC

    Originally posted by budm
    The backlights did not even flash on for second then. If the backlights circuit is OK the good lamps and bad lamp, the backlightys will flash on for seconds then the protection circuit will kick in to give you that 3-second to black symptom.
    Next thing we need to find out if you do have PFC Boosted Voltage or not by checking the DC Voltage between the two legs of the mail filter cap cp815, it should show about 380~400VDC right now in this self test mode, the backlights circuit require this boosted Voltage to operate.
    Looks like 166v across the 2 leads, main board unplugged and power cord plugged in
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    • budm
      Badcaps Legend
      • Feb 2010
      • 40746
      • USA

      #22
      Re: Samsun LN32B550K1F with BN44-00261A burnt out IC

      OK, we need to check out the PFC circuit next. Need to check the PFC diodes and may be the DCV at the VCC pin of the PFC IC. I am going to bed now, so I will continue tomorrow.
      Last edited by budm; 09-15-2017, 11:53 PM.
      Never stop learning
      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

      Inverter testing using old CFL:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
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      TV Factory reset codes listing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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      • lucidbarrier
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2012
        • 84
        • USA

        #23
        Re: Samsun LN32B550K1F with BN44-00261A burnt out IC

        Originally posted by budm
        OK, we need to check out the PDC circuit next. Need to check the PFC diodes next, then msy be the DCV at the VCC pin of the PFC IC. I am going to bed now, so I will continue tomorrow.
        Yes sir, thanks for the help!

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        • lucidbarrier
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2012
          • 84
          • USA

          #24
          Re: Samsun LN32B550K1F with BN44-00261A burnt out IC

          Originally posted by budm
          OK, we need to check out the PFC circuit next. Need to check the PFC diodes and may be the DCV at the VCC pin of the PFC IC. I am going to bed now, so I will continue tomorrow.
          I'm not too sure which diodes are the ones I need to check but those big diodes DP804 and DP810 are not shorted, they test 0F in one direction and .488v in the other direction (in circuit).

          I was looking at another thread with a similar board and I am assuming the PFC IC is the FAN7530 at UP801S?

          Reference:
          https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=55254

          So with the black lead hooked up to the neg - lead of the main filtering cap and the postitive probing the little pads of the IC chip I only saw 2 voltages.
          I think that Pin 8 is the VCC. The little dot was located right over Pin 1.

          Pin 8: 0.228v
          Pin 1: 1.09v
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          • budm
            Badcaps Legend
            • Feb 2010
            • 40746
            • USA

            #25
            Re: Samsun LN32B550K1F with BN44-00261A burnt out IC

            Look at the schematic and then check the DCV with ref to primary circuit GND (Neg. leg of the main filter cap) on E, B, and C of Transistor QB801 to see what you get.
            It may be in the protection shutdown mode due to bad resistors: Rb 803~808 which are part of the PFC protection circuit.., also may be bad 15V Zener ZB801
            Last edited by budm; 09-18-2017, 09:35 PM.
            Never stop learning
            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

            Inverter testing using old CFL:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

            TV Factory reset codes listing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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            • lucidbarrier
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2012
              • 84
              • USA

              #26
              Re: Samsun LN32B550K1F with BN44-00261A burnt out IC

              Originally posted by budm
              Look at the schematic and then check the DCV with ref to primary circuit GND (Neg. leg of the main filter cap) on E, B, and C of Transistor QB801 to see what you get.
              It may be in the protection shutdown mode due to bad resistors: Rb 803~808 which are part of the PFC protection circuit.., also may be bad 15V Zener ZB801
              While I was looking for that QB801, I noticed that there have been a bunch of components replaced on this board. There are diodes and capacitors and little resistors and FETs replaced. Some of the soldering is kind of iffy. The larger things look good but some of the tiny SMD components look a bit crooked. He didn't trim the legs far enough on the STRW6252. I went ahead and sent for a return on this board. It's one thing trying to find a failed component on a virgin board but then it's another trying to fix something he might have caused repairing the board.

              So the other day I went ahead and ordered this kit, which the seller blanked out the numbers on the components but it looks like a STRW6252 and a FAN7532 is in the kit, as well as some caps and a replacement fuse. I also ordered a Weller WES51 and a few tips, in case I need to replace that IC. I am going to focus on the failed original board and send the Frankenboard back to the seller.
              Last edited by lucidbarrier; 09-19-2017, 01:32 AM. Reason: Oops

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              • lucidbarrier
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2012
                • 84
                • USA

                #27
                Re: Samsun LN32B550K1F with BN44-00261A burnt out IC

                Wow that WES51 temp controlled soldering iron really makes a difference! I wish I had bought this thing years ago.

                I noticed that the power IC has heatsink compound on it. What kind of heat sink compound do I need to use? All I have is Artic Silver 5 but that contains silver and this looks like the old school white stuff.
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                • heavymachines
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 1028
                  • United States

                  #28
                  Re: Samsun LN32B550K1F with BN44-00261A burnt out IC

                  Grease will still work just fine.

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                  • lucidbarrier
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2012
                    • 84
                    • USA

                    #29
                    Re: Samsun LN32B550K1F with BN44-00261A burnt out IC

                    Originally posted by heavymachines
                    Grease will still work just fine.
                    Thanks, I bought some GC heatsink compound today at Altex. It says perfect for power ICs so that's the main reason I got it.

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                    • lucidbarrier
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2012
                      • 84
                      • USA

                      #30
                      Re: Samsun LN32B550K1F with BN44-00261A burnt out IC

                      So today I put some compound on the power IC, soldered it in and swapped out the fuse that was open. I decided not to replace the little FAN7530 IC and to check the voltage at the main filtering cap to see where we were.

                      I plugged in the power cord and the backlights immediately came on and I saw about 386v at the filtering cap. So I reattached the T-Conn and main board and threw on the rear cover to test it.

                      And it came on with a beautiful picture! I knew this TV had a lot of potential because of similar TV's I've repaired. Do I need to worry about that little FAN7530 IC?

                      I want to thank you gentlemen for your help and suggestions.
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                      • budm
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 40746
                        • USA

                        #31
                        Re: Samsun LN32B550K1F with BN44-00261A burnt out IC

                        PFC Voltage booster is working so the PFC IC is fine, glad to see the TV is working again.
                        Never stop learning
                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                        • vinceroger69
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Mar 2012
                          • 6714
                          • uk

                          #32
                          Re: Samsun LN32B550K1F with BN44-00261A burnt out IC

                          glad you have managed too get your set working is it possible for future reference too let us know what was included in the kit and the board location numbers as it may help others with fault finding etc.

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                          • lucidbarrier
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2012
                            • 84
                            • USA

                            #33
                            Re: Samsun LN32B550K1F with BN44-00261A burnt out IC

                            Originally posted by vinceroger69
                            glad you have managed too get your set working is it possible for future reference too let us know what was included in the kit and the board location numbers as it may help others with fault finding etc.
                            The TV would power on and you could hear a chime, and the standby light blinked but there were no backlights, no picture, no image on the screen with a flash light on it.
                            The obvious parts that were faulty were the little power transister and the blown fuse. The power switch was visibly blown and destroyed and the fuse tested open in circuit.

                            Location UM801S - Power Switch Part# STRW6252
                            Location FS801 - Fuse T3.15AH 250V

                            I bought the kit from here:
                            https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-BN4...2/142490605351

                            It's mostly the capacitors to recap the board along with the two parts mentioned and a FAN7530 at location UP801S on the back of the board. It's missing one cap though, I'm not sure which revision they used but there is a cap at CM852 rated at 10v 1200uF 105C and it's not in the kit. The cap they have at CM851 isn't on either board I have, and it's a 25v680uF cap. If you do need to replace the STRW6252 then you would also need to have some heat sink compound handy because its bare. I picked GC Type 44 Heat Sink Compound part# 10-8118

                            But I would read the other posts in this thread because Budm really broke it down how to test the power supply issue.

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