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  • budm
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2010
    • 40746
    • USA

    #21
    Re: KDL-60W600B won't open just Red Blinks 6 times

    wHAT DO YOU HAVE ON Power supply board CN6401 BL_ERROR pin 3, BL-ON pin 5?
    So far your LED connector readings do not show open circuit.
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    Last edited by budm; 07-29-2017, 03:32 PM.
    Never stop learning
    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

    Inverter testing using old CFL:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

    TV Factory reset codes listing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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    • Ali101
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2017
      • 152
      • Taiwan

      #22
      Re: KDL-60W600B won't open just Red Blinks 6 times

      Thank for help budm, but sorry i not understand, what i need to check now to make sure which part of PSU have problem so i change it,
      Thanks.

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      • budm
        Badcaps Legend
        • Feb 2010
        • 40746
        • USA

        #23
        Re: KDL-60W600B won't open just Red Blinks 6 times

        Rurn in the TV and check the DC Voltage on the power supply connector CN6401 pin 3 (BL-ERROR), and pin 5 (BL-ON) with reference to the chassis GND.
        Never stop learning
        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

        Inverter testing using old CFL:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

        TV Factory reset codes listing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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        • Ali101
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2017
          • 152
          • Taiwan

          #24
          Re: KDL-60W600B won't open just Red Blinks 6 times

          Dear budm, i had check PSU & BAXL with below results,
          Multi Meter Range set on 20 DC

          CN6401: on PSU
          Pin 1 = 3.5 V after turn on tv it goes 0.00 V
          Pin 2 to 5 = 0.00 V
          Pin 6 to 8 = 12.7 V after turn on tv it goes 0.00 V
          Pin 9 to 14 = 0.00 V

          as per chassis GND it says Check JL9106* at (BACKLIGHT_MON) of CN9101 on the BAXL Board
          so below is CN9101 resluts
          Pin 1 = 3.54 V after turn on tv 3.54 V is still there
          Pin 2 to 5 = 0.00
          Pin 6 = 3.56 after turn on tv it goes 0.00 V
          Pin 9 to 11 = 12.71 after turn on tv it goes 0.00 V
          Pin 12 to 15 = 0.00 V

          any advise will be highly appreciated,
          Thanks.

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          • Ali101
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2017
            • 152
            • Taiwan

            #25
            Re: KDL-60W600B won't open just Red Blinks 6 times

            As per chassis GND in BAXL i have no idea where is JL9106* & i need to check how much out put with what range of Multi meter set,
            Attached Files

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            • Ali101
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2017
              • 152
              • Taiwan

              #26
              Re: KDL-60W600B won't open just Red Blinks 6 times

              @tom66 & @budm any suggestions?
              you guys are experts and your help will be highly appreciated to find actual fault on my tv,
              Thanks.

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              • Ali101
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2017
                • 152
                • Taiwan

                #27
                Re: KDL-60W600B won't open just Red Blinks 6 times

                Anyone? Any help on this issue? I need help to find which board have fault so i replace that board only, since i need to buy from ebay so first make sure which is faulty, kindly help me on this point,
                Thanks.

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                • budm
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 40746
                  • USA

                  #28
                  Re: KDL-60W600B won't open just Red Blinks 6 times

                  I look through those service manual, it does not say what the normal Voltage should be if there is no backlights error.
                  Never stop learning
                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                  • Ali101
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2017
                    • 152
                    • Taiwan

                    #29
                    Re: KDL-60W600B won't open just Red Blinks 6 times

                    So there is no way we can find which one is faulty board?
                    Whether its PSU or BAXL or TCon,

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                    • budm
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 40746
                      • USA

                      #30
                      Re: KDL-60W600B won't open just Red Blinks 6 times

                      I did not look in details to see if the backlights can be forced on or not to help narrowing down the board. Most power supplies and backlights cicuits can be forced using resistors between standby power supply output pin and BL-ON, and PS-ON pin.
                      Never stop learning
                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                      Comment

                      • Ali101
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2017
                        • 152
                        • Taiwan

                        #31
                        Re: KDL-60W600B won't open just Red Blinks 6 times

                        Dear budm appreciated your reply, hope you will help me to find actual faultu board on my tv, @tom any advise? Really need help on this point,
                        Thanks.

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                        • tom66
                          EVs Rule
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 32560
                          • UK

                          #32
                          Re: KDL-60W600B won't open just Red Blinks 6 times

                          Perhaps, if you are brave enough to remove 60" LCD panel, it is worth checking the LEDs in the backlight and see if they are okay.
                          You should be able to test them using a 3-4V power supply, some multimeters will also do this.
                          Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                          For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                          • Ali101
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2017
                            • 152
                            • Taiwan

                            #33
                            Re: KDL-60W600B won't open just Red Blinks 6 times

                            Thanks for advised tom, since i am not much expert so i am afraid if i open LCD panel it may damage inside panel or its totally safe to open panel? Or you think i should call some tec ppls to fix my tv, waiting for your reply,
                            Thanks.

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                            • tom66
                              EVs Rule
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 32560
                              • UK

                              #34
                              Re: KDL-60W600B won't open just Red Blinks 6 times

                              It's not easy to open the panel and it's easily damaged if you are not careful. A tech may cost a lot of money though, so it's entirely up to you.
                              Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                              For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                              • Ali101
                                Senior Member
                                • Jul 2017
                                • 152
                                • Taiwan

                                #35
                                Re: KDL-60W600B won't open just Red Blinks 6 times

                                is there any other way to check without open LCD panel?

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                                • budm
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Feb 2010
                                  • 40746
                                  • USA

                                  #36
                                  Re: KDL-60W600B won't open just Red Blinks 6 times

                                  You can get LED tester, something similar to this:
                                  http://www.ebay.com/itm/0-300V-SID-G...item1c740cd5ab
                                  Never stop learning
                                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                                  Comment

                                  • budm
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Feb 2010
                                    • 40746
                                    • USA

                                    #37
                                    Re: KDL-60W600B won't open just Red Blinks 6 times

                                    Can you check the DCV between the two legs of the filter cap C6801? That will be the Voltage that is fed to the Voltage Boost converter for driving the LED's strings.
                                    Also need the Voltage rating of the cap C6801 and C6804, it is printed on the body of the caps.
                                    Last edited by budm; 08-01-2017, 09:32 AM.
                                    Never stop learning
                                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                                    Comment

                                    • Ali101
                                      Senior Member
                                      • Jul 2017
                                      • 152
                                      • Taiwan

                                      #38
                                      Re: KDL-60W600B won't open just Red Blinks 6 times

                                      Originally posted by budm
                                      You can get LED tester, something similar to this:
                                      http://www.ebay.com/itm/0-300V-SID-G...item1c740cd5ab
                                      Thanks for help budm, appreciated your kind assistance,
                                      so i have to open LCD panel to check whether some led got bad? from all above tests/board readings seems like my LED panel have issue right?

                                      Originally posted by budm
                                      Can you check the DCV between the two legs of the filter cap C6801? That will be the Voltage that is fed to the Voltage Boost converter for driving the LED's strings.
                                      Also need the Voltage rating of the cap C6801 and C6804, it is printed on the body of the caps.
                                      Not sure if filter cap is attached image, if so than below is reading i take while tv power on, but if filter cap is different than below image than your help will be appreciated to find & test further more,
                                      Thanks.

                                      CN6801:
                                      Pin 1=90 V, after turn tv on it drop slowly 89...88..87......3.2.1
                                      Pin 2=90 V, after turn tv on it drop slowly 89...88..87......3.2.1
                                      Pin 3=90 V, after turn tv on it drop slowly 89...88..87......3.2.1
                                      Pin 4=90 V, after turn tv on it drop slowly 89...88..87......3.2.1

                                      CN6802:
                                      Pin 1=13.5 V, after turn tv on it drop slowly 12...11..10......3.2.1
                                      Pin 2=13.7 V, after turn tv on it drop slowly 12...11..10......3.2.1
                                      Pin 3=13.6 V, after turn tv on it drop slowly 12...11..10......3.2.1
                                      Pin 4=13.6 V, after turn tv on it drop slowly 12...11..10......3.2.1
                                      Pin 5=0.00 V,
                                      Attached Files
                                      Last edited by Ali101; 08-01-2017, 09:50 PM.

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                                      • budm
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Feb 2010
                                        • 40746
                                        • USA

                                        #39
                                        Re: KDL-60W600B won't open just Red Blinks 6 times

                                        Originally posted by Ali101
                                        Thanks for help budm, appreciated your kind assistance,
                                        so i have to open LCD panel to check whether some led got bad? from all above tests/board readings seems like my LED panel have issue right?



                                        Not sure if filter cap is attached image, if so than below is reading i take while tv power on, but if filter cap is different than below image than your help will be appreciated to find & test further more,
                                        Thanks.

                                        CN6801:
                                        Pin 1=90 V, after turn tv on it drop slowly 89...88..87......3.2.1
                                        Pin 2=90 V, after turn tv on it drop slowly 89...88..87......3.2.1
                                        Pin 3=90 V, after turn tv on it drop slowly 89...88..87......3.2.1
                                        Pin 4=90 V, after turn tv on it drop slowly 89...88..87......3.2.1

                                        CN6802:
                                        Pin 1=13.5 V, after turn tv on it drop slowly 12...11..10......3.2.1
                                        Pin 2=13.7 V, after turn tv on it drop slowly 12...11..10......3.2.1
                                        Pin 3=13.6 V, after turn tv on it drop slowly 12...11..10......3.2.1
                                        Pin 4=13.6 V, after turn tv on it drop slowly 12...11..10......3.2.1
                                        Pin 5=0.00 V,
                                        We already know what Voltage you have on the LED connectors, what I need is the dcv on the cap I listed above so we can find out if the boost converter is working or not. Please re-read my request again and look for those caps on that power supply board.
                                        https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...1&d=1501157949
                                        Last edited by budm; 08-01-2017, 10:22 PM.
                                        Never stop learning
                                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                                        Comment

                                        • Ali101
                                          Senior Member
                                          • Jul 2017
                                          • 152
                                          • Taiwan

                                          #40
                                          Re: KDL-60W600B won't open just Red Blinks 6 times

                                          Dear budm, sorry my bad, since i am very nervous due to it might LCD penal fault so recognized C6801 Cap as CN6801, please accept my sincere apology, will check & get back to you with results,
                                          Thanks

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