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  • budm
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2010
    • 40746
    • USA

    #81
    Re: 40" RCA L40FHD41 No Picture + No Audio

    Originally posted by ajsterr4
    Taken from backside of LCD panel
    Samsung LTA400HA07.
    I will have the search for the spec sheet of this panel.

    Inverter board:
    Toshiba/RCA/Samsung LJ97-02098B (INV40N14B) Backlight Inverter SSI-400-14A01
    http://www.shopjimmy.com/toshiba-rca...t-inverter.htm
    Last edited by budm; 05-28-2017, 05:45 PM.
    Never stop learning
    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

    Inverter testing using old CFL:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

    TV Factory reset codes listing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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    • ajsterr4
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2016
      • 115
      • USA

      #82
      Re: 40" RCA L40FHD41 No Picture + No Audio

      Originally posted by budm
      When checking fuse, you will use the lowest Ohm scale the meter can do, in this case it will be set to 200-Ohm scale.
      Please read post 77.
      I replied to that post, also. The fuse test I am now getting reading of 00.3 for both fuses , on 200OHM setting
      Last edited by ajsterr4; 05-28-2017, 05:39 PM.

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      • budm
        Badcaps Legend
        • Feb 2010
        • 40746
        • USA

        #83
        Re: 40" RCA L40FHD41 No Picture + No Audio

        The fuses are OK otherwise half the set of the lamps will not light up.
        I am leaning toward bad imverter board.
        Never stop learning
        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

        Inverter testing using old CFL:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

        TV Factory reset codes listing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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        • budm
          Badcaps Legend
          • Feb 2010
          • 40746
          • USA

          #84
          Re: 40" RCA L40FHD41 No Picture + No Audio

          BTW, look at the bottom side of the inverter board to see if there is any sign of burnt on the bottom side.
          https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...=SSI-400-14A01
          Never stop learning
          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

          Inverter testing using old CFL:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

          TV Factory reset codes listing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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          • ajsterr4
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2016
            • 115
            • USA

            #85
            Re: 40" RCA L40FHD41 No Picture + No Audio

            Originally posted by budm
            BTW, look at the bottom side of the inverter board to see if there is any sign of burnt on the bottom side.
            https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...=SSI-400-14A01
            Here's a picture of the backside of inverter board, the top looks like it was exposed to some heat

            The burn marks lead to the area right where the capacitor on the right is and where that eight legged transitor is (see pictures)
            Attached Files
            Last edited by ajsterr4; 05-28-2017, 06:21 PM.

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            • ajsterr4
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2016
              • 115
              • USA

              #86
              Re: 40" RCA L40FHD41 No Picture + No Audio

              The hi-heat discoloration goes down the whole length of the inverter board (backside) but it's not as dark in some places. There are 14 mosfet transitors that run the length of the board too.

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              • ajsterr4
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2016
                • 115
                • USA

                #87
                Re: 40" RCA L40FHD41 No Picture + No Audio

                These are the mosfet that are on the board

                PDF



                I am getting ~0.567k on D1 pin 5

                When I check the other Drain pins 6,7,8 I do not get a reading

                Negative probe on source, charge up the Gate pin, then red lead to Drain
                Last edited by ajsterr4; 05-28-2017, 07:12 PM.

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                • attainteddragon
                  Badcaps Veteran
                  • Apr 2013
                  • 764
                  • australia

                  #88
                  Re: 40" RCA L40FHD41 No Picture + No Audio

                  in your pic with the ccfl's on, the 3rd from the bottom is not on. can you confirm/deny if is working or not.
                  WHY CAN'T PHILIPS USE PHILLIPS HEAD SCREWS?

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                  • ajsterr4
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2016
                    • 115
                    • USA

                    #89
                    Re: 40" RCA L40FHD41 No Picture + No Audio

                    It's possible it was working at some point or maybe I didn't snap it in all the way. Oddly enough since I've taken that picture, 2 ccfl bulbs broke (one of them being the 3rd from the bottom) it broke trying to snap in/out.

                    2 bulbs are now missing but the other bulbs still light up and shut down the same. Can you operate the TV with missing bulbs?

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                    • attainteddragon
                      Badcaps Veteran
                      • Apr 2013
                      • 764
                      • australia

                      #90
                      Re: 40" RCA L40FHD41 No Picture + No Audio

                      that's a problem. even if the inverter board was ok, it would sense that pulling different amount of current from each transformer, so it would shut it down to protect itself.

                      so, you now either need to replace the ccfl's that are broken to continue, or call it a day on this one. if you could get your hands on a broken screen set, that would be awesome.
                      WHY CAN'T PHILIPS USE PHILLIPS HEAD SCREWS?

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                      • ajsterr4
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2016
                        • 115
                        • USA

                        #91
                        Re: 40" RCA L40FHD41 No Picture + No Audio

                        A broken screen of the same model or any 40" LCD?

                        Before taking it apart the lights would still shut off so unless there was one bad bulb all along or I made it worse and the original problem still exists elsewhere.

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                        • attainteddragon
                          Badcaps Veteran
                          • Apr 2013
                          • 764
                          • australia

                          #92
                          Re: 40" RCA L40FHD41 No Picture + No Audio

                          i would aim for the same model, as you may get hold of the same inverter too, though not a guarentee as they could use a few through their build cycle.

                          unfortunately i can't tell if the ccfl was working prior to now as this is the first pic that i have seen of it under the panel.

                          there have been cases where ccfl's have come loose from connectors (on other models),
                          so that may of potentially been a fault as well.
                          WHY CAN'T PHILIPS USE PHILLIPS HEAD SCREWS?

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                          • ajsterr4
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2016
                            • 115
                            • USA

                            #93
                            Re: 40" RCA L40FHD41 No Picture + No Audio

                            Finding the same model will not be easy.

                            Can I use certain components from other TVs? Like bulbs or transitors?

                            Would any 40" suffice for this stuff?

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                            • attainteddragon
                              Badcaps Veteran
                              • Apr 2013
                              • 764
                              • australia

                              #94
                              Re: 40" RCA L40FHD41 No Picture + No Audio

                              as far as the ccfl's go, most of them are 3mm diameter and leaded, but length can vary a bit. a 40" is generally close though.

                              components can be used in lots of places, even an unrepairable board can give you enough parts to fix many others.
                              WHY CAN'T PHILIPS USE PHILLIPS HEAD SCREWS?

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                              • budm
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 40746
                                • USA

                                #95
                                Re: 40" RCA L40FHD41 No Picture + No Audio

                                It looks like one of the inverter transformer got hot too.
                                Never stop learning
                                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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