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  • budm
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    • Feb 2010
    • 40746
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    #61
    Re: Dead Vestel 17IPS71 power board

    Originally posted by london-freddie
    VDD to GND same 192 in diode mode
    That is what I thought.
    I say replace the IC unless some one has other suggestions.
    Last edited by budm; 05-03-2016, 02:58 PM.
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    • ReeceyBurger123
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      • May 2014
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      #62
      Re: Dead Vestel 17IPS71 power board

      Im just going to throw my 2 pence in. Dont give up on this, keep following Buds advise. It will work out just keep trying. I want to see this work out.
      Last edited by ReeceyBurger123; 05-03-2016, 03:05 PM.
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      • dick_barton
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        • Aug 2015
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        #63
        Re: Dead Vestel 17IPS71 power board

        I to would agree at this point. Nothing to lose changing it, but everything to gain.
        Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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        • dick_barton
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          • Aug 2015
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          #64
          Re: Dead Vestel 17IPS71 power board

          I would be suspicious of C296 a 1uF 50V smd capacitor? London-Freddie does your meter have a capacitance checker so you can test it?
          Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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          • budm
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            • Feb 2010
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            #65
            Re: Dead Vestel 17IPS71 power board

            @reece, do you have any of the Vestel board that uses the 6300 IC that may be you can try taking some resistance measurement on?
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            • budm
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              #66
              Re: Dead Vestel 17IPS71 power board

              Originally posted by dick_barton
              I would be suspicious of C296 a 1uF 50V smd capacitor? London-Freddie does your meter have a capacitance checker so you can test it?
              He can try removing that MLCC cap which is in parallel the Lytics cap for filtering the Voltage on the VDD pin and see.
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              • ReeceyBurger123
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                • May 2014
                • 7325
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                #67
                Re: Dead Vestel 17IPS71 power board

                I have this same Psu in another Tv which I will be taking a look at tomorrow. So will get reading then with the same Psu. That wont be till about 4pm tomorrow when I finish college and have a look at that set though.
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                • london-freddie
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                  • May 2015
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                  • UK

                  #68
                  Re: Dead Vestel 17IPS71 power board

                  no meter does not have cap test
                  are we saying change IC U202 FAN6300

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                  • budm
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                    • Feb 2010
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                    #69
                    Re: Dead Vestel 17IPS71 power board

                    Originally posted by ReeceyBurger123
                    I have this same Psu in another Tv which I will be taking a look at tomorrow. So will get reading then with the same Psu. That wont be till about 4pm tomorrow when I finish college and have a look at that set though.
                    Great, that will give us some idea as to what the resistance readings should be to see if we are in the right path.
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                    • ReeceyBurger123
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                      • May 2014
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                      #70
                      Re: Dead Vestel 17IPS71 power board

                      Just checking some that I have on hand now.

                      17IPS19 uses Fan 6724
                      17IPS11 uses Fan 6724
                      17IPS20 uses Fan 6724 on both switching transistors.

                      So will get the IPS71 out tomorrow and get a look. Hopefully it uses the same chip as all Vestels differentiate in the design.
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                      • london-freddie
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                        • May 2015
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                        • UK

                        #71
                        Re: Dead Vestel 17IPS71 power board

                        can you point me in the direction of that MLCC cap to remove please

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                        • dick_barton
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                          • Aug 2015
                          • 6643
                          • Wales

                          #72
                          Re: Dead Vestel 17IPS71 power board

                          Here circled in red.
                          Attached Files
                          Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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                          • dick_barton
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                            • Aug 2015
                            • 6643
                            • Wales

                            #73
                            Re: Dead Vestel 17IPS71 power board

                            If that checks out OK then I would wait and see what information ReeceyBurger123 can offer you tomorrow.
                            Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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                            • ReeceyBurger123
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                              • May 2014
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                              #74
                              Re: Dead Vestel 17IPS71 power board

                              Readings coming shortly.
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                              • ReeceyBurger123
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                                #75
                                Re: Dead Vestel 17IPS71 power board

                                Right heres what I have:

                                C262:

                                Across cap 465 ohms. To ground OL

                                U202 Fan 6300A nothing gives a reading to ground. VCC nothing to ground either on any pins meter set to several ohms measurements.

                                D20:

                                Black on cathode, red on anode:
                                476Mv drop

                                Red on cathode, black on anode:
                                OL

                                D298:

                                Black on cathode, red on anode:

                                087Mv drop

                                Red on cathode, black on anode:

                                OL
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                                • ReeceyBurger123
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                                  #76
                                  Re: Dead Vestel 17IPS71 power board

                                  I would say your Smp Ic is probably faulty here. See what Bud and DB think.
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                                  • budm
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                                    • Feb 2010
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                                    #77
                                    Re: Dead Vestel 17IPS71 power board

                                    Just to be sure, So the resistance between the HV pin and GND pin is (OP was reading about 70K Ohms)? VDD pin and GND pin is (Op was reading about 2K Ohms)?
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                                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
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                                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
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                                    • dick_barton
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                                      • Aug 2015
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                                      • Wales

                                      #78
                                      Re: Dead Vestel 17IPS71 power board

                                      London-Freddie
                                      You now need to do the same tests as ReeceyBurger123 has kindly done for you and post back the results.
                                      Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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                                      • budm
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                                        • Feb 2010
                                        • 40746
                                        • USA

                                        #79
                                        Re: Dead Vestel 17IPS71 power board

                                        I have a hard time finding c262 in the diagram.
                                        But from the readings Reece provided, it does look like bad IC at this point.
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                                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
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                                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
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                                        • ReeceyBurger123
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                                          • May 2014
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                                          #80
                                          Re: Dead Vestel 17IPS71 power board

                                          It might be hard Bud as they change the design every board. But yeah im thinking the Ic is bad, strange as normally when these Ic's fail in Vestels they blow up.
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