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  • budm
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2010
    • 40746
    • USA

    #21
    Re: 17PW16.2 Blowing Mains Fuse But Nothing S/C

    Originally posted by Brighton Mike
    Is a diagram available?
    Post 6, download from tom66.
    Last edited by budm; 03-14-2016, 04:34 PM.
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    • ReeceyBurger123
      Never Give Up !
      • May 2014
      • 7325
      • Britain

      #22
      Re: 17PW16.2 Blowing Mains Fuse But Nothing S/C

      Hmm, the two red polly caps in the image im getting 490 ohms across the one with BLUE marker on the top the other I get nothing both are the same value 105k 450v. Possibly an issue ?
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      • Alastair E
        Chief Womble
        • Mar 2013
        • 1963
        • U.K.

        #23
        Re: 17PW16.2 Blowing Mains Fuse But Nothing S/C

        Tom's site has diagrams for Vestel turds there, Mike....
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        How PLASMA SCREENS WORK, X-SUS and Y-SUS what they do--
        http://www.irf.com/technical-info/appnotes/an-1088.pdf
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        • ReeceyBurger123
          Never Give Up !
          • May 2014
          • 7325
          • Britain

          #24
          Re: 17PW16.2 Blowing Mains Fuse But Nothing S/C

          Originally posted by Alastair E
          pfc inductor itself...?
          Just checked it is fine.
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          • budm
            Badcaps Legend
            • Feb 2010
            • 40746
            • USA

            #25
            Re: 17PW16.2 Blowing Mains Fuse But Nothing S/C

            For the fuse to blow up violently (inside the fuse is blackened) the resistance will in 20 Ohms or a lot less after the fuse.
            Never stop learning
            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

            Inverter testing using old CFL:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

            TV Factory reset codes listing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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            • ReeceyBurger123
              Never Give Up !
              • May 2014
              • 7325
              • Britain

              #26
              Re: 17PW16.2 Blowing Mains Fuse But Nothing S/C

              Hmm, this is a tricky one. Going to do what you suggested tomorrow and see what happens if its fine I know the short is after the bridge.
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              • dick_barton
                Badcaps Legend
                • Aug 2015
                • 6642
                • Wales

                #27
                Re: 17PW16.2 Blowing Mains Fuse But Nothing S/C

                Originally posted by ReeceyBurger123
                im getting 490 ohms across the one with BLUE marker on the top the other I get nothing both are the same value 105k 450v. Possibly an issue ?
                Testing on an identical power supply and switching my meter leads to measure across each capacitor, the lowest reading I get across each capacitor you highlight is 300K.
                Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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                • ReeceyBurger123
                  Never Give Up !
                  • May 2014
                  • 7325
                  • Britain

                  #28
                  Re: 17PW16.2 Blowing Mains Fuse But Nothing S/C

                  Ok cheers bud, so thats not the problem lol
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                  • dick_barton
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                    • Aug 2015
                    • 6642
                    • Wales

                    #29
                    Re: 17PW16.2 Blowing Mains Fuse But Nothing S/C

                    Hi ReeceyBurger123
                    But if you are getting 490 ohms across one of the caps (C802) then that differs considerably from what I read across the same cap on my board.
                    Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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                    • ReeceyBurger123
                      Never Give Up !
                      • May 2014
                      • 7325
                      • Britain

                      #30
                      Re: 17PW16.2 Blowing Mains Fuse But Nothing S/C

                      Hmm possibly, could be something else hiding but causing low resistance across that cap. Will check tomorrow mate and keep you updated.
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                      • keeney123
                        Lauren
                        • Sep 2014
                        • 2536
                        • United States

                        #31
                        Re: 17PW16.2 Blowing Mains Fuse But Nothing S/C

                        I would hold one lead on gnd. and then go hunt on the other lead.

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                        • steviewonder
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2013
                          • 183
                          • england

                          #32
                          Re: 17PW16.2 Blowing Mains Fuse But Nothing S/C

                          Maybe worth removing L802,I'ts on the neg side of the bridge rectifier,If fuse still pops,issue is around bridge rectifier and possibly s/c mains filter coils tr801/802.q813/814 also cause blackened fuse,I did have one once where tr806 had tracked underneath,causing the same..

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                          • ReeceyBurger123
                            Never Give Up !
                            • May 2014
                            • 7325
                            • Britain

                            #33
                            Re: 17PW16.2 Blowing Mains Fuse But Nothing S/C

                            Originally posted by steviewonder
                            Maybe worth removing L802,I'ts on the neg side of the bridge rectifier,If fuse still pops,issue is around bridge rectifier and possibly s/c mains filter coils tr801/802.q813/814 also cause blackened fuse,I did have one once where tr806 had tracked underneath,causing the same..
                            Ok cheers will give it ago after college
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                            • dick_barton
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                              • Aug 2015
                              • 6642
                              • Wales

                              #34
                              Re: 17PW16.2 Blowing Mains Fuse But Nothing S/C

                              Hello ReeceyBurger123
                              Did you get to the bottom of this one? Just curious.
                              Last edited by dick_barton; 03-17-2016, 04:05 AM.
                              Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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                              • ReeceyBurger123
                                Never Give Up !
                                • May 2014
                                • 7325
                                • Britain

                                #35
                                Re: 17PW16.2 Blowing Mains Fuse But Nothing S/C

                                Hi mate not yet, might leave it till the weekend
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                                • dick_barton
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                                  • Aug 2015
                                  • 6642
                                  • Wales

                                  #36
                                  Re: 17PW16.2 Blowing Mains Fuse But Nothing S/C

                                  ?
                                  Last edited by dick_barton; 03-17-2016, 01:50 PM. Reason: wrong post
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                                  • ReeceyBurger123
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                                    • May 2014
                                    • 7325
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                                    #37
                                    Re: 17PW16.2 Blowing Mains Fuse But Nothing S/C

                                    I said I will do it at weekend as not got the time atm as have other things above this todo. Will keep you posted.
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                                    • dick_barton
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                                      • 6642
                                      • Wales

                                      #38
                                      Re: 17PW16.2 Blowing Mains Fuse But Nothing S/C

                                      Sorry ReeceyBurger123,
                                      The above reply wasn't intended for you. I was replying to someone else but got my threads mixed up and tried to delete it hence the ?
                                      Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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                                      • keeney123
                                        Lauren
                                        • Sep 2014
                                        • 2536
                                        • United States

                                        #39
                                        Re: 17PW16.2 Blowing Mains Fuse But Nothing S/C

                                        Looking at the Schematic I am wonder why they have jumpers across the coil like L822 and L821 and a few more,? then I wonder why TR807 has AC Gnd connected to +400 volts? I see three fuses on the schematic, but I figure you are talking about the main input fuse for the AC? Which I can not locate?

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                                        • budm
                                          Badcaps Legend
                                          • Feb 2010
                                          • 40746
                                          • USA

                                          #40
                                          Re: 17PW16.2 Blowing Mains Fuse But Nothing S/C

                                          The blank PCB can be stuffed to created more than one version of the PCBA, so another version may not have the Common mode filter installed so the jumpers are put in place. You will need the BOM of the PCBA to really find out what components are used to stuffed the board.
                                          Never stop learning
                                          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                          Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                          TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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