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  • krygods
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Dec 2014
    • 257
    • USA

    #1

    Hitachi LE49S508

    I came across this Hitachi TV that doesn't do anything when plugged in.

    No standby light, power button does nothing.

    The power supply is on though because all voltages are present except BL/ON.

    Here are the Voltages

    CON801
    PS-O/F - 3.2VDC
    PB adj - .14VDC
    PB O/F - 0VDC
    GND
    GND
    GND
    GND
    +12v - 12.37VDC
    +12v - 12.37VDC
    +12v - 12.37VDC
    +12v - 12.37VDC

    CON901
    GND
    KEY 0 - 3.3VDC
    KEY 1 - 3.3VDC
    LED G - 3.28VDC
    LED R - 0.07VDC
    IR IN - 5.16VDC
    GND
    +5V - 5.2VDC

    CN4
    LED 1+ - 119VDC
    LED 2+ - 89VDC
    LED 3+ - 60VDC
    LED 4+ - 31VDC
    LED 5+ - 6VDC
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  • CapLeaker
    Leaking Member
    • Dec 2014
    • 8214
    • Canada

    #2
    Re: Hitachi LE49S508

    burnt out back light leds?
    Last edited by CapLeaker; 10-01-2015, 06:51 PM.

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    • krygods
      Badcaps Veteran
      • Dec 2014
      • 257
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      #3
      Re: Hitachi LE49S508

      can they be tested for open or short without taking apart the panel?

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      • CapLeaker
        Leaking Member
        • Dec 2014
        • 8214
        • Canada

        #4
        Re: Hitachi LE49S508

        Look at CN4. LED voltages are all over the place between the strings. The led's are bad this way or the other (shorted vs open). In order to repair that, the panel must come apart and each individual LED to be tested.

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        • krygods
          Badcaps Veteran
          • Dec 2014
          • 257
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          #5
          Re: Hitachi LE49S508

          Sounds like what I was thinking. I opened the panel up last night and got through testing the first two strips of LED's, accidentally damaged one of the first few removing the lens so I'll be replacing that with one from another LED strip. Let you guys know what I discover after testing all 5 strips.

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          • ReeceyBurger123
            Never Give Up !
            • May 2014
            • 7325
            • Britain

            #6
            Re: Hitachi LE49S508

            You can glue the lense back on woth hot glue saves replacing it, you can test each led with a Dmm.
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            • krygods
              Badcaps Veteran
              • Dec 2014
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              #7
              Re: Hitachi LE49S508

              I damaged the actual LED not the lens, the led still tests good with a DMM it just doesn't light up.

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              • krygods
                Badcaps Veteran
                • Dec 2014
                • 257
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                #8
                Re: Hitachi LE49S508

                I just got finished testing all the LEDs and regluing the lenses.

                All LEDs test good and light up when checked with a DMM.

                Anything else that could be causing this issue?

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                • budm
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 40746
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: Hitachi LE49S508

                  Can I see the pictures that show the wires from the LEDS that go to the LED connector?
                  Never stop learning
                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
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                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
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                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                  • krygods
                    Badcaps Veteran
                    • Dec 2014
                    • 257
                    • USA

                    #10
                    Re: Hitachi LE49S508

                    Here's a pic of how the strips are connected and also a pic of the connector on the PSU

                    Let me know if you need better pics or of something else
                    Attached Files

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                    • budm
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 40746
                      • USA

                      #11
                      Re: Hitachi LE49S508

                      OK, so it does have 5 LED strings and they are connected in series as one big string.
                      Your readings at CN4 do not look right for the string #5.
                      CN4
                      LED 1+ - 119VDC
                      LED 2+ - 89VDC
                      LED 3+ - 60VDC
                      LED 4+ - 31VDC
                      LED 5+ - 6VDC


                      So per your readings:
                      String #1 has 30VDC Voltage drops (119V - 89V =30V).
                      String #2 has 29VDC Voltage drops (89V - 60V =29V).
                      String #3 has 29VDC Voltage drops (60V - 31V =29V).
                      String #4 has 25VDC Voltage drops (31V - 6V =25V).
                      String #5 has 6VDC Voltage drops, it the last string to has Cathode to GND return through current sensing resistors..
                      So are you sure the string #5 is OK? and those readings are valid?
                      Last edited by budm; 10-02-2015, 02:01 PM.
                      Never stop learning
                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                      • krygods
                        Badcaps Veteran
                        • Dec 2014
                        • 257
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: Hitachi LE49S508

                        I just re-checked all the LEDs in strip 5 all show a voltage drop of 841-845 and light up with the probes reversed.

                        I re-checked all the voltages at CN4 all remain the same as above.

                        When probing for voltage at CN4 the strips of LEDs light up dimly.

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                        • budm
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 40746
                          • USA

                          #13
                          Re: Hitachi LE49S508

                          "When probing for voltage at CN4 the strips of LEDs light up dimly.' That is good information.
                          So how many LEDs are there in one strip? That will tell us what the Drive Voltage at LED 1+ should be.
                          Attached Files
                          Last edited by budm; 10-02-2015, 02:08 PM.
                          Never stop learning
                          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                          Inverter testing using old CFL:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                          TV Factory reset codes listing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                          • krygods
                            Badcaps Veteran
                            • Dec 2014
                            • 257
                            • USA

                            #14
                            Re: Hitachi LE49S508

                            12 LEDs per strip

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                            • budm
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 40746
                              • USA

                              #15
                              Re: Hitachi LE49S508

                              12 LEDs x 5 strips = 60 LEDs, so the minimum drive Voltage should be 60 x 3Vf = 180V (or 60 x3.6Vf = 216V), so the drive Voltage of 119V is too low.
                              Need to look at the driver circuit next.
                              Never stop learning
                              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                              Inverter testing using old CFL:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                              TV Factory reset codes listing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                              • budm
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 40746
                                • USA

                                #16
                                Re: Hitachi LE49S508

                                Need good pictures of this area.
                                Attached Files
                                Never stop learning
                                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                • budm
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Feb 2010
                                  • 40746
                                  • USA

                                  #17
                                  Re: Hitachi LE49S508

                                  OK, I trace out the connections.
                                  Seems to me that the boost converter is not working. You should check the capacitance of that GREY rectangular cap, and get the P/N of that 8-PIN SMD IC.
                                  Attached Files
                                  Never stop learning
                                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                  • krygods
                                    Badcaps Veteran
                                    • Dec 2014
                                    • 257
                                    • USA

                                    #18
                                    Re: Hitachi LE49S508

                                    Ok here is a picture of the section you want to see. Let me know if this is a clear enough picture otherwise I'll see if I can figure out how to get a clearer picture while zoomed in.
                                    Attached Files

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                                    • krygods
                                      Badcaps Veteran
                                      • Dec 2014
                                      • 257
                                      • USA

                                      #19
                                      Re: Hitachi LE49S508

                                      I don't have any means to test the capacitance right now, the transistor tester / esr meter that I bought from ebay isn't working properly it keeps telling me that its testing a mosfet when there is nothing being tested and tells me that every capacitor is unknown / damaged.

                                      Here is the P/N of the 8 pin IC F28543 and below that is 083350CP

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                                      • budm
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Feb 2010
                                        • 40746
                                        • USA

                                        #20
                                        Re: Hitachi LE49S508

                                        Please check the resistance between LED 5+ pin and the chassis (LED connector in place) to see what you get.
                                        Nothing come up with that IC F28543 yet.
                                        Last edited by budm; 10-02-2015, 08:27 PM.
                                        Never stop learning
                                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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