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  • tom66
    EVs Rule
    • Apr 2011
    • 32560
    • UK

    #21
    Re: No Picture Samsung LED TV

    I would use a slow blow / time delay type - the very fast acting may blow under normal in-rush currents.
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    • Mikeyboy2007
      Badcaps Veteran
      • Mar 2013
      • 745
      • Scotland

      #22
      Re: No Picture Samsung LED TV

      ok probable shouldnt have but bridged a little speaker wire across fuse and plugged tv on, got multi coloured lines running all way through screen but unplugged (was only on for 2 seconds) and a little bit of smoke came from can smell burning copper or likes on the tcon ? im guessing i was wrong to try this ?

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      • Mikeyboy2007
        Badcaps Veteran
        • Mar 2013
        • 745
        • Scotland

        #23
        Re: No Picture Samsung LED TV

        Originally posted by tom66
        I would use a slow blow / time delay type - the very fast acting may blow under normal in-rush currents.
        like these ones Tom ?

        http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10-X-FUSE-...item3f38520ad0

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        • tom66
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          • Apr 2011
          • 32560
          • UK

          #24
          Re: No Picture Samsung LED TV

          Yes - you have probably damaged the T-con and you may well have destroyed the panel, and possibly the main board power circuit for the panel/T-con, or LVDS cable if the current was high.

          A fuse is there as a protective device, they don't put it on there so you can just jumper it because it'll be fun to see where the smoke comes out, never, ever jumper a fuse unless you really are absolutely certain there is no fault and even then, don't jumper a fuse because nobody is perfect and a fuse is a safety device.

          In future, you can use a lower-rated automotive fuse. For example a 1-2A fuse which may be used in a lighting circuit in a car could be used.
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          • newtothis
            Badcaps Legend
            • Mar 2013
            • 1556
            • england

            #25
            Re: No Picture Samsung LED TV

            Should of wired a conventional fuse in using wires, Not just a wire... The magic smoke has been released now

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            • Mikeyboy2007
              Badcaps Veteran
              • Mar 2013
              • 745
              • Scotland

              #26
              Re: No Picture Samsung LED TV

              whats the next move ? possibly binning the tv now ?

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              • tom66
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                • Apr 2011
                • 32560
                • UK

                #27
                Re: No Picture Samsung LED TV

                Try and put the smoke back in - if you capture it all in a jar, you might be able to stuff it in the holes it leaked out of (you'll need a smoke injection kit of course; check on eBay), if not, you'll have to buy replacement Samsung smoke, but they only generally sell it to service techs so you'll have difficulty getting it.

                more seriously, the lines on the screen point to a panel fault, so I'd probably scrap the set, but it would be good to check a few things first, try and locate what may have burnt or caused damage.
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                • Mikeyboy2007
                  Badcaps Veteran
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 745
                  • Scotland

                  #28
                  Re: No Picture Samsung LED TV

                  may have been this chip as looks burnt from underneath
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                  • tom thumb
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2013
                    • 66
                    • USA

                    #29
                    Re: No Picture Samsung LED TV

                    Originally posted by tom66
                    Try and put the smoke back in - if you capture it all in a jar, you might be able to stuff it in the holes it leaked out of (you'll need a smoke injection kit of course; check on eBay), if not, you'll have to buy replacement Samsung smoke, but they only generally sell it to service techs so you'll have difficulty getting it.

                    more seriously, the lines on the screen point to a panel fault, so I'd probably scrap the set, but it would be good to check a few things first, try and locate what may have burnt or caused damage.
                    Tom66: you made my day i love the smoke idea i had a good laugh

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                    • CapLeaker
                      Leaking Member
                      • Dec 2014
                      • 8183
                      • Canada

                      #30
                      Re: No Picture Samsung LED TV

                      Originally posted by newtothis
                      Should of wired a conventional fuse in using wires, Not just a wire... The magic smoke has been released now
                      That is why you should have looked for a short first, before just replacing the fuse with a piece of WIRE!

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                      • Mikeyboy2007
                        Badcaps Veteran
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 745
                        • Scotland

                        #31
                        Re: No Picture Samsung LED TV

                        is there anything at all i can do to try and fix this ? would it even be worth replacing T-Con ?

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                        • tom66
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                          • Apr 2011
                          • 32560
                          • UK

                          #32
                          Re: No Picture Samsung LED TV

                          Replacing the T-con could be a waste of money, as you may well have a damaged panel (especially after jumpering the fuse, lots of current may have gone through the wrong paths.) Very hard to to be sure. That IC could be secondary damage or the primary cause of the fault. It's your money. I wouldn't buy one if I were you.
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                          • Mikeyboy2007
                            Badcaps Veteran
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 745
                            • Scotland

                            #33
                            Re: No Picture Samsung LED TV

                            ok i suppose its my fault... should have done what was instructed rather than jumping ahead.. thanks.

                            to start on another tv now i think, will be paying more attention on this one.

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                            • Mikeyboy2007
                              Badcaps Veteran
                              • Mar 2013
                              • 745
                              • Scotland

                              #34
                              Re: No Picture Samsung LED TV

                              Originally posted by tom66
                              Replacing the T-con could be a waste of money, as you may well have a damaged panel (especially after jumpering the fuse, lots of current may have gone through the wrong paths.) Very hard to to be sure. That IC could be secondary damage or the primary cause of the fault. It's your money. I wouldn't buy one if I were you.
                              So i got a hold of another tv but slightly different model that just happened to have the exact same Tcon board.. i tried it in the tv and im getting full picture however i am getting 4x 1 pixel wide lines down the screen at the right hand side. Can this be repaired ?

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                              • ReeceyBurger123
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                                • May 2014
                                • 7325
                                • Britain

                                #35
                                Re: No Picture Samsung LED TV

                                Originally posted by tom66
                                Try and put the smoke back in - if you capture it all in a jar, you might be able to stuff it in the holes it leaked out of (you'll need a smoke injection kit of course; check on eBay), if not, you'll have to buy replacement Samsung smoke, but they only generally sell it to service techs so you'll have difficulty getting it.

                                more seriously, the lines on the screen point to a panel fault, so I'd probably scrap the set, but it would be good to check a few things first, try and locate what may have burnt or caused damage.
                                Haha lol thats made my day
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                                • blackfro26
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                                  • Jan 2017
                                  • 2
                                  • indonesia

                                  #36
                                  Re: No Picture Samsung LED TV

                                  Originally posted by tom66
                                  I would use a slow blow / time delay type - the very fast acting may blow under normal in-rush currents.
                                  Thanks for the explanation, I also have the same problem. I have a samsung models UA40F5000MA, Sound OK, and Backlight OK, but screen black no image. I suspect that there is damage in the T-Con, but I do not understand the "Test Point", I tried to measure the part of the red circle. And get the result Vin 12.85 Volt and in other parts of 6.5 volts. Can you help me. Thank you very much. Sorry but I am not fluent in English, I use google translate

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                                  • dick_barton
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Aug 2015
                                    • 6643
                                    • Wales

                                    #37
                                    Re: No Picture Samsung LED TV

                                    Use your multimeter set to ohms and measure resistance across the fuse F100 which should measure 0 ohms. Set power off.
                                    Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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                                    • blackfro26
                                      New Member
                                      • Jan 2017
                                      • 2
                                      • indonesia

                                      #38
                                      Re: No Picture Samsung LED TV

                                      Originally posted by dick_barton
                                      Use your multimeter set to ohms and measure resistance across the fuse F100 which should measure 0 ohms. Set power off.
                                      Yes I do, and result the fuse is short. But I dont know where part to check or make the fuse short

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                                      • vinceroger69
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Mar 2012
                                        • 6714
                                        • uk

                                        #39
                                        Re: No Picture Samsung LED TV

                                        if the fuse reads short its good re connect the tcon back up in the tv but leave one of the top ribbon cables disconnected turn the tv what do you see on the screen then put the ribbon cable back in and take the otherside out what do you see on the screen

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                                        • budm
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                                          • Feb 2010
                                          • 40746
                                          • USA

                                          #40
                                          Re: No Picture Samsung LED TV

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                                          It is impossible to have fuse with 0 Ohms reading and have 12.85VDC on one end and 6.5V on the other end of the fuse. So Basically you have 6.35 DCV drops on 0 Ohm! Got to be measurement error.
                                          What scale are you using in Ohm mode?
                                          Last edited by budm; 01-19-2017, 11:43 AM.
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