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  • _N_
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 52

    #21
    Re: Proscan Plded3996a-c2

    Originally posted by budm
    OK, that means the MOSFET is not switching on and off and it just passes the input Voltage right to the output without producing the boosted Voltage needed for the LED.
    So you need to find out what DCV you have on the VCC pin and the GND pin of that 8-pin SMD IC.
    Did you download the spec sheet for that IC? If you did, then you should upload it.
    yes its in my 1st posting, top of thread along with all the other data sheets.

    pin 1: {V.in} gives 12.4V

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    • budm
      Badcaps Legend
      • Feb 2010
      • 40746
      • USA

      #22
      Re: Proscan Plded3996a-c2

      OK, sorry I did not go through all the links you provided in the first post, I will download and upload the spec sheet for other people to see for future reference.
      Never stop learning
      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

      Inverter testing using old CFL:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

      TV Factory reset codes listing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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      • _N_
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 52

        #23
        Re: Proscan Plded3996a-c2

        Originally posted by budm
        OK, that means the MOSFET is not switching on and off and it just passes the input Voltage right to the output without producing the boosted Voltage needed for the LED.
        So you need to find out what DCV you have on the VCC pin and the GND pin of that 8-pin SMD IC.
        Did you download the spec sheet for that IC? If you did, then you should upload it.
        pin 1 is Vin gives 12.4Vdc

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        • budm
          Badcaps Legend
          • Feb 2010
          • 40746
          • USA

          #24
          Re: Proscan Plded3996a-c2

          OK, we need the DCV on each pin (with ref. to GND pin) of that OB3350 to see if it is active or not.
          Attached Files
          Never stop learning
          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

          Inverter testing using old CFL:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

          TV Factory reset codes listing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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          • _N_
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 52

            #25
            Re: Proscan Plded3996a-c2

            Originally posted by budm
            OK, we need the DCV on each pin (with ref. to GND pin) of that OB3350 to see if it is active or not.
            k
            Attached Files

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            • budm
              Badcaps Legend
              • Feb 2010
              • 40746
              • USA

              #26
              Re: Proscan Plded3996a-c2

              It looks like there is no drive output from the IC, the VCC is OK, the OVP is OK, so you can try a new IC.
              Never stop learning
              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

              Inverter testing using old CFL:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

              TV Factory reset codes listing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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              • _N_
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 52

                #27
                Re: Proscan Plded3996a-c2

                Originally posted by budm
                It looks like there is no drive output from the IC, the VCC is OK, the OVP is OK, so you can try a new IC.
                k, off to purchase one.
                anything else you'd like to verify by chance?

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                • budm
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 40746
                  • USA

                  #28
                  Re: Proscan Plded3996a-c2

                  Nothing else I can think off, if the you at the diagram in the IC spec sheet, that is probably pretty close to what you have on your board, it is just a simple Voltage booster circuit.
                  Never stop learning
                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                  • Agent24
                    I see dead caps
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 4950
                    • New Zealand

                    #29
                    Re: Proscan Plded3996a-c2

                    Could a fault with the feedback circuit cause the driver to shutdown?
                    "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
                    -David VanHorn

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                    • budm
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 40746
                      • USA

                      #30
                      Re: Proscan Plded3996a-c2

                      Since there not enough output Voltage to turn on the LED, the feedback then will be 0 since no current flowing through LED and through the current sensing resistor as shown in the diagram.
                      Never stop learning
                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                      • Agent24
                        I see dead caps
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 4950
                        • New Zealand

                        #31
                        Re: Proscan Plded3996a-c2

                        Oh yeah... that makes sense, but what if there is something wrong with the current sensing resistor\circuit for the FET?

                        (I don't know if that is the problem here, asking more out of curiosity actually)

                        The datasheet doesn't seem to explain much about how the CS pin works and if it's related to the OCP or not.
                        "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
                        -David VanHorn

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                        • budm
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 40746
                          • USA

                          #32
                          Re: Proscan Plded3996a-c2

                          Right now the MOSFET's Gate is not getting any drive signal from the IC and I do not see anything standing out to stop the IC from drivng the MOSFET, and the MOSFET is not shorted out which will take out the Source resistor, so to be sure he can check the Resistor on the Source pin of that Power MOSFET.
                          The CS sense pin works the same as the SMPS IC by sensing if too much current is being flow through the MOSFET, the more current flow the higher the DCV across the Source resistor, when it reach the trip point (per spec sheet, it is 330mV), the drive circuit shutdown.
                          Last edited by budm; 03-13-2015, 11:22 PM.
                          Never stop learning
                          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                          Inverter testing using old CFL:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                          TV Factory reset codes listing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                          • Agent24
                            I see dead caps
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 4950
                            • New Zealand

                            #33
                            Re: Proscan Plded3996a-c2

                            Thanks, it makes sense now.
                            "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
                            -David VanHorn

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                            • _N_
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 52

                              #34
                              Re: Proscan Plded3996a-c2

                              Part ordered last night, when it arrives ill install and upload pics, it will be a while since no one stocks it other than the people who make it.
                              Thanks Bud for the help, ill keep ya posted.

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                              • _N_
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 52

                                #35
                                Re: Proscan Plded3996a-c2

                                New part arrived and soldered it all in , no bridges now i get these voltages all measured to Ground pin of the IC. and still no BL helllllp ? ;}
                                Attached Files

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                                • budm
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Feb 2010
                                  • 40746
                                  • USA

                                  #36
                                  Re: Proscan Plded3996a-c2

                                  6, 7 and 8 are now much more different than the old IC. Need to do more thinking here.
                                  Never stop learning
                                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                                  Comment

                                  • _N_
                                    Senior Member
                                    • Nov 2010
                                    • 52

                                    #37
                                    Re: Proscan Plded3996a-c2

                                    I left it on for 10 min this mourning and remeasured and now i get slightly different voltage.

                                    1: 12.4
                                    2: 0
                                    3: GND
                                    4: 0.04
                                    5: 0.01
                                    6: 3.6 - 0.60 this one fluctuates
                                    7: 2
                                    8: 2.4

                                    voltages off the main 2 big caps is v164,
                                    also the cap near for the inverter v20.9

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                                    • _N_
                                      Senior Member
                                      • Nov 2010
                                      • 52

                                      #38
                                      Re: Proscan Plded3996a-c2

                                      I was extremely careful in removing everything ,

                                      Curiosity killed the cat, I know,...... I know
                                      But looky looky
                                      ECD029 IC-E-CNA039d139
                                      Attached Files

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                                      • _N_
                                        Senior Member
                                        • Nov 2010
                                        • 52

                                        #39
                                        Re: Proscan Plded3996a-c2

                                        I Just tried to see if the led strips would light using a small tiny H.V.inverter from a colored cold cathode tube for PC Modding, that feeds itself from a pc psu at 12V,
                                        regardless of the horrible /Black-brown states of the back of those LED Pcb strips, they flicker and all do light up (not brightly but they do turn on with the little inverter), Ill heat sink them to the large metal backing before I close it all up using a potting / thermal paste adhesive... WHY the hell didn't they do this at factory the tube costs like $2.14 on ebay sigh.
                                        Last edited by _N_; 04-03-2015, 11:11 AM.

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                                        • Agent24
                                          I see dead caps
                                          • Oct 2007
                                          • 4950
                                          • New Zealand

                                          #40
                                          Re: Proscan Plded3996a-c2

                                          Be careful you don't electrically connect them to the frame somehow and short them out.
                                          "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
                                          -David VanHorn

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