Vizio VF552XVT, audio, but no backlighting

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  • Vandy30
    Member
    • Sep 2013
    • 27
    • USA

    #21
    Re: Vizio VF552XVT, audio, but no backlighting

    Originally posted by budm
    Any component tested on board that shows as bad or look bad on the meter should be removed and retest off the board.
    Originally posted by nomoresonys
    for sure, take m out carefully, test m, and put m back in if good, then you can ether confirm their bad or good, and continue troubleshooting.
    Well, my first time desoldering a MOSFET/Transistor didn't go so well...I probably damaged the pcb . The laminate underneath the big base tab on the MOSFET bubbled up some and the first one even peeled up some laminate/copper with it when I removed from the board (I didn't even know that was possible!). Too much heat and prying. The second one came off much easier after I saturated with solder, so at least I learned my lesson, just angry with myself and venting a bit.

    On with the results...both of the MOSFETS that tested bad in circuit, also tested bad out of circuit. I will try to source some replacements and cross my fingers that the board will live to see another day.

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    • selldoor
      Slow Learner
      • Dec 2010
      • 7870

      #22
      Re: Vizio VF552XVT, audio, but no backlighting

      Let us know how it goes - if you need help or an opinion on repairing the board post pictures of the damage.
      Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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      • CapLeaker
        Leaking Member
        • Dec 2014
        • 8214
        • Canada

        #23
        Re: Vizio VF552XVT, audio, but no backlighting

        not enough heat and prying too much! Once they are hot, you should just be able to pick it up like nothing, just add more solder maybe. You do need a good soldering iron though. A 25W isn't that great.

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        • Vandy30
          Member
          • Sep 2013
          • 27
          • USA

          #24
          Re: Vizio VF552XVT, audio, but no backlighting

          Originally posted by selldoor
          Let us know how it goes - if you need help or an opinion on repairing the board post pictures of the damage.
          I really hate to even post these photos...be gentle lol. I did a terrible job and its quite embarrassing, but I would feel more comfortable letting you guys take a look and getting your honest opinion if this pcb damage can be fixed or not. My main concern is the copper pad on the left that the MOSFET sits on, since it is raised up off the board. Can that just be adhered back down? Will soldering the new MOSFET in be ok if left as is? I probed around on the board just doing continuity checks in the area and it tests the same as the pad on the right, but I may be overlooking something obvious. It's just hanging on by a thread and has me concerned.

          I think I need a new tip on my iron as I just noticed that the end doesn't come to a point anymore, some of the metal eroded away. This may be why I had issues transferring heat, but regardless I shouldn't have pried so hard. Also, while I'm at it, I believe I will try a flat tip for the large pad area next time to see if that helps.
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          • nomoresonys
            Badcaps Legend
            • Jan 2013
            • 12206
            • U.S.

            #25
            Re: Vizio VF552XVT, audio, but no backlighting

            ok, could not foresee that you would pry on the component, but mistakes are how we learn, there are some good solder/desolder tutorials on youtube. I'm bad at soldering too.
            Quit because THIS SITE LETS A ROGUE MEMBER TYPE ANY GARBAGE HE PLEASES AND THE POWERS THAT BE NEVER DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT SO HE NEVER QUITS. THEN YOU GET A PENALTY FOR RESPONDING TO HIS ATTACKS. BEEN GOING ON FOR WAY TOO LONG. DONE SUPPORTING A SITE THAT ALLOWS THIS BS.

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            • budm
              Badcaps Legend
              • Feb 2010
              • 40746
              • USA

              #26
              Re: Vizio VF552XVT, audio, but no backlighting

              When I remove this kind of SMD, I cut the two legs first then I use my 60W Weller with wide tip and add the solder to the tab for removing it off the board.
              Never stop learning
              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

              Inverter testing using old CFL:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

              TV Factory reset codes listing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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              • Vandy30
                Member
                • Sep 2013
                • 27
                • USA

                #27
                Re: Vizio VF552XVT, audio, but no backlighting

                Originally posted by nomoresonys
                ok, could not foresee that you would pry on the component, but mistakes are how we learn, there are some good solder/desolder tutorials on youtube. I'm bad at soldering too.
                In hindsight I should've watched the videos before digging in lol, I just got the cart before the horse. Thanks for the sympathy.

                Originally posted by budm
                When I remove this kind of SMD, I cut the two legs first then I use my 60W Weller with wide tip and add the solder to the tab for removing it off the board.
                budm, that definitely sounds like the best way to tackle these SMDs.

                So, I'm still wondering...should I attempt to patch this thing back together? Will it hurt anything if I leave it as is and solder in the new components? Thoughts? Suggestions? I've got the replacement components ordered already and I'm just wondering if I should do some sort of maintenance on the PCB before putting on the new parts. Thanks in advance.

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                • Vandy30
                  Member
                  • Sep 2013
                  • 27
                  • USA

                  #28
                  Re: Vizio VF552XVT, audio, but no backlighting

                  IT WORKED!! I just finished soldering the 2 replacement MOSFETS in the LED Driver Board, connected the board back up, and presto. To the best of my knowledge, the 2 shorted MOSFETS on the LED Driver Board were all that was wrong (knock on wood, it's only been running a short time up to now). I'm guessing there is some sort of feedback loop that detected the shorted MOSFETS which then told the PS to cut power to the LED Driver Board as a safety feature maybe? I'm still not positive on that one, but regardless, it is up and running.

                  I'd like give a big THANK YOU! to everyone that helped me with this project and also thank for your patience and understanding. This is honestly one of the most informative forums around and has a great community. I definitely learned a lot from this. Thanks fellas! Now to find the next project.

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                  • CapLeaker
                    Leaking Member
                    • Dec 2014
                    • 8214
                    • Canada

                    #29
                    Re: Vizio VF552XVT, audio, but no backlighting

                    I am glad it worked and thanks for the feedback, so others can learn!

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                    • ny_jets_head
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2014
                      • 70
                      • usa

                      #30
                      Re: Vizio VF552XVT, audio, but no backlighting

                      Originally posted by Vandy30
                      IT WORKED!! I just finished soldering the 2 replacement MOSFETS in the LED Driver Board, connected the board back up, and presto. To the best of my knowledge, the 2 shorted MOSFETS on the LED Driver Board were all that was wrong (knock on wood, it's only been running a short time up to now). I'm guessing there is some sort of feedback loop that detected the shorted MOSFETS which then told the PS to cut power to the LED Driver Board as a safety feature maybe? I'm still not positive on that one, but regardless, it is up and running.

                      I'd like give a big THANK YOU! to everyone that helped me with this project and also thank for your patience and understanding. This is honestly one of the most informative forums around and has a great community. I definitely learned a lot from this. Thanks fellas! Now to find the next project.
                      I have the same set and slightly different back-light issue:
                      The top part of the screen back light is not on as well the bottom is on but flashes when cold and then stops after it warms up.
                      There is a red led that flashes
                      The set functions fine otherwise.


                      On the LED driver board I have the following off the D442 devices

                      Drain, Gate, Source
                      Q4 24.1, 1.0, 0

                      Q5 24.1, 1.0, 0

                      Q11 24.2, 1.7 ,0

                      Q12 24.2, 1.7 ,0

                      Q212 24.2, 1.9 ,0

                      Q213 24.2, 1.9 ,0

                      The Q 4,5 gates stand out as a possible issue with the devices or something else.

                      Thoughts and suggestions?

                      Thanks

                      Edit:
                      More info...
                      When powered on with the Visio logo all the back lights are working, the screen then goes black
                      After that the "No signal" screen is where I get the flashing as well as the partial back light at the bottom.
                      Possibly chasing the down the wrong cause?? maybe t-con?
                      Last edited by ny_jets_head; 07-16-2015, 06:57 AM. Reason: More info:

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                      • ny_jets_head
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2014
                        • 70
                        • usa

                        #31
                        Re: Vizio VF552XVT, audio, but no backlighting

                        Did factory reset and it still fashes.
                        Any idea where i should start?

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                        • ny_jets_head
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2014
                          • 70
                          • usa

                          #32
                          Re: Vizio VF552XVT, audio, but no backlighting

                          Update:

                          This one is going to be a problem to troubleshoot.

                          Now it's only flickering slightly after its been off for a while... otherwise it has been working flawlessly.

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