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  • Ltank
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Jun 2013
    • 776
    • USA

    #21
    Re: Sony Bravia KDL-46EX640 no power

    Switch should be fine. Use ohm meter (set unplugged) to test switch. Your getting 390 vdc on big filter cap. Your signal from main board to p.s. is telling set to turn on. Unplug the main board and plug it in wall if it still turns on there USA PS issue too

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    • bullwinkle
      Senior Member
      • May 2009
      • 107
      • Canada

      #22
      Re: Sony Bravia KDL-46EX640 no power

      Originally posted by Ltank
      Switch should be fine. Use ohm meter (set unplugged) to test switch. Your getting 390 vdc on big filter cap. Your signal from main board to p.s. is telling set to turn on. Unplug the main board and plug it in wall if it still turns on there USA PS issue too

      I use the wall outlet. same result.

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      • bullwinkle
        Senior Member
        • May 2009
        • 107
        • Canada

        #23
        Re: Sony Bravia KDL-46EX640 no power

        By the way what is this component labeled as FB6301 at the power supply board?

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        • bullwinkle
          Senior Member
          • May 2009
          • 107
          • Canada

          #24
          Re: Sony Bravia KDL-46EX640 no power

          I'm planning to replace MIP2H2, C6308, C6311, C6310, C6524. Any suggestions?

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          • bullwinkle
            Senior Member
            • May 2009
            • 107
            • Canada

            #25
            Re: Sony Bravia KDL-46EX640 no power

            I have done some simple voltage tests. Please see attached pics.
            Attached Files

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            • bullwinkle
              Senior Member
              • May 2009
              • 107
              • Canada

              #26
              Re: Sony Bravia KDL-46EX640 no power

              At the white connectors:

              T-Con ON = 0 V
              T-Con-Vcc-12 = 0 V
              NC = N/A
              Dimmer = 0 V
              BL-ON = 0 V
              BL-ERR = 3.310 V
              REG-12V = 12.58 V
              REG-12V = 12.58 V
              REG-12V-GND = 0 V
              REG-12V-GND = 0 V
              Audio-12V-GND = 0 V
              POWER ON = 3.307 V
              ACC OFF-DET = 2.933 V
              STBY 3.3V = 3.327 V

              Any suspects?

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              • bullwinkle
                Senior Member
                • May 2009
                • 107
                • Canada

                #27
                Re: Sony Bravia KDL-46EX640 no power

                Also, if I voltage check R6419 the one side is 0V but on the other side is 12.5V. You can see the component on the first pic posted above.

                I pull out this resistor labeled as 471J 1W and here is the measured resistance 468 ohms.
                Attached Files
                Last edited by bullwinkle; 05-05-2014, 06:15 PM.

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                • tibimakai
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 3680
                  • USA

                  #28
                  Re: Sony Bravia KDL-46EX640 no power

                  Maybe one side goes to ground.

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                  • bullwinkle
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2009
                    • 107
                    • Canada

                    #29
                    Re: Sony Bravia KDL-46EX640 no power

                    Originally posted by tibimakai
                    Maybe one side goes to ground.
                    Possible since looking back at the white connector designation it directly connects to the following pins:

                    REG-12V-GND
                    REG-12V-GND
                    Audio-12V-GND

                    But, the other side of the resistor is directly connected to the positive side of 1500uF/16V electrolytic capacitor which I also checked the capacitance and ESR values and are OK.
                    Last edited by bullwinkle; 05-05-2014, 06:28 PM.

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                    • bullwinkle
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2009
                      • 107
                      • Canada

                      #30
                      Re: Sony Bravia KDL-46EX640 no power

                      Originally posted by sugar_ray
                      98% of the zero power issues I have encountered always seem to lead to a bad power supply board. Even after testing components that seemed ok. Just had a toshiba this weekend with the same issue your having. No standby, no front light, wouldn't respond to remote or side buttons. Just dead!! With meter I could tell the ps board was getting power but that's as far as it was going. No output. Ceramic fuse was fine as well. In most cases this will be a bad ps board. You'll just have to decide if you want to hunt down components or just replace the supply board itself. Rare occasions it can be the main board, but from experience, a bad main will still allow a standby light.

                      Here was the toshiba I was referring to. Replaced ps, and it lives!! Best of luck

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bk9a...ature=youtu.be

                      Bought a power supply board from shopjimmy. Got hold of it an hour ago. But unfortunately, still a deadset after installing the new power supply board.

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                      • bullwinkle
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2009
                        • 107
                        • Canada

                        #31
                        Re: Sony Bravia KDL-46EX640 no power

                        Now Im shifting my focus to the motherboard after installing the newly bought power supply board and still a deadset.

                        No LED lights you can see in front. Pushed the power button at the side, still no joy.

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                        • budm
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 40746
                          • USA

                          #32
                          Re: Sony Bravia KDL-46EX640 no power

                          Originally posted by bullwinkle
                          At the white connectors:

                          T-Con ON = 0 V
                          T-Con-Vcc-12 = 0 V
                          NC = N/A
                          Dimmer = 0 V
                          BL-ON = 0 V
                          BL-ERR = 3.310 V
                          REG-12V = 12.58 V
                          REG-12V = 12.58 V
                          REG-12V-GND = 0 V
                          REG-12V-GND = 0 V
                          Audio-12V-GND = 0 V
                          POWER ON = 3.307 V
                          ACC OFF-DET = 2.933 V
                          STBY 3.3V = 3.327 V

                          Any suspects?
                          Right now the PS_ON is stuck high.
                          The main board is not sending out the T-CON on signal to turn on the 12V supply to the T-CON, the main board is also not sending the BL_ON and the Dimming control signals either.
                          Never stop learning
                          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                          Inverter testing using old CFL:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                          TV Factory reset codes listing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                          • bullwinkle
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2009
                            • 107
                            • Canada

                            #33
                            Re: Sony Bravia KDL-46EX640 no power

                            @ budm: so the mainboard is now a suspect? what do you think?

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                            • anmol
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2012
                              • 73
                              • India

                              #34
                              Re: Sony Bravia KDL-46EX640 no power

                              what is voltage ACC OFF-DET = 2.933 V and BL-ERR = 3.310 V and POWER ON = 3.307 V with new power supply board ?

                              Remove CN6801 and CN6802 Backlight socket from power supply board and check for standby red led on ?

                              wbr

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                              • budm
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 40746
                                • USA

                                #35
                                Re: Sony Bravia KDL-46EX640 no power

                                Yes, the main board is the suspect right now.
                                Never stop learning
                                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                • bullwinkle
                                  Senior Member
                                  • May 2009
                                  • 107
                                  • Canada

                                  #36
                                  Re: Sony Bravia KDL-46EX640 no power

                                  Originally posted by anmol
                                  what is voltage ACC OFF-DET = 2.933 V and BL-ERR = 3.310 V and POWER ON = 3.307 V with new power supply board ?

                                  Remove CN6801 and CN6802 Backlight socket from power supply board and check for standby red led on ?

                                  wbr
                                  Using the new power supply board, ACC OFF-DET = 2.926Vdc, BL-ERR = 3.311Vdc, POWER-ON = 3.303Vdc

                                  CN6801 and CN6802 backlight connection disconnected, standby LED is still OFF.

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                                  • bullwinkle
                                    Senior Member
                                    • May 2009
                                    • 107
                                    • Canada

                                    #37
                                    Re: Sony Bravia KDL-46EX640 no power

                                    Originally posted by budm
                                    Yes, the main board is the suspect right now.

                                    OK thank you will take a closer look on the mainboard.
                                    Last edited by bullwinkle; 05-12-2014, 10:43 AM.

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                                    • bullwinkle
                                      Senior Member
                                      • May 2009
                                      • 107
                                      • Canada

                                      #38
                                      Re: Sony Bravia KDL-46EX640 no power

                                      just received the mainboard I ordered. It finally turns ON but here are the results.

                                      Any inputs?
                                      Attached Files

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                                      • budm
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Feb 2010
                                        • 40746
                                        • USA

                                        #39
                                        Re: Sony Bravia KDL-46EX640 no power

                                        Well, now at least the TV comes on and have pictures. Does this main board match the old board P/N?
                                        Never stop learning
                                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                        • tom66
                                          EVs Rule
                                          • Apr 2011
                                          • 32560
                                          • UK

                                          #40
                                          Re: Sony Bravia KDL-46EX640 no power

                                          Check the LVDS cable is properly seated both ends.
                                          Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                                          For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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