E390vl help with regulator testing

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  • tom66
    EVs Rule
    • Apr 2011
    • 32560
    • UK

    #41
    Re: E390vl help with regulator testing

    I think the best you can do is replace the regulator & nearby caps and see if it is OK. If not, the CPU might be bad.
    Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
    For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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    • audiofreak19
      Badcaps Veteran
      • Apr 2013
      • 556
      • usa

      #42
      Re: E390vl help with regulator testing

      Do you think the CPU would be causing the shutdown after turning on.

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      • tom66
        EVs Rule
        • Apr 2011
        • 32560
        • UK

        #43
        Re: E390vl help with regulator testing

        Low voltage could cause it to crash, if that's what you're asking.
        Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
        For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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        • audiofreak19
          Badcaps Veteran
          • Apr 2013
          • 556
          • usa

          #44
          Re: E390vl help with regulator testing

          So I replaced the flash chip again with the same new one I bought and it does the same thing no vizio logo on or anything. I checked the regulator I said was getting hot and it's getting hot. I rushed and grabbed my multimeter cause I didn't want it getting hot for long and these are the readings. On the input it's getting 3.28v which is good. The output is getting .967 and slowly growing. And the adj is at 0. I think this regulator is bad. Nothing else on the board gets hot but this reg.

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          • audiofreak19
            Badcaps Veteran
            • Apr 2013
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            #45
            Re: E390vl help with regulator testing

            Can anyone help me find the regulator H1117C 1.2 207. I'm trying to find it to buy but can't figure it out.

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            • stj
              Great Sage 齊天大聖
              • Dec 2009
              • 30979
              • Albion

              #46
              Re: E390vl help with regulator testing

              http://www.logictoyz.com/electronic-...1117-1-2v.html

              1.2v is pretty low for a 1117 - you may get lucky with the big guys like digikey though.

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              • Caleb
                Smokin IC's
                • Feb 2013
                • 645
                • USA

                #47
                Re: E390vl help with regulator testing

                I think this will work for you, you just need to verify if you need an adjustable regulator or a standard regulator
                Last edited by Caleb; 05-06-2014, 08:31 PM.
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                • stj
                  Great Sage 齊天大聖
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 30979
                  • Albion

                  #48
                  Re: E390vl help with regulator testing

                  http://www.digikey.com/product-searc...=0&pageSize=25

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                  • audiofreak19
                    Badcaps Veteran
                    • Apr 2013
                    • 556
                    • usa

                    #49
                    Re: E390vl help with regulator testing

                    I know its a adj reg. How do I know which one from digikey to pick.

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                    • Caleb
                      Smokin IC's
                      • Feb 2013
                      • 645
                      • USA

                      #50
                      Re: E390vl help with regulator testing

                      You just need to get the main points and you should be fine
                      -1117 regulator
                      -adjustable
                      -1.2v low dropout
                      -correct package size
                      the one I linked in my previous post should do the trick
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                      • budm
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 40746
                        • USA

                        #51
                        Re: E390vl help with regulator testing

                        Do you need adjustable regulator or 1.2V fixed regulator? It seems to me you have 1.2V fixed, not adjustable.
                        The adjustable regulator will have resistors network to set the output voltage above the 1.25V Vref. The fixed regulator will have pin 1 (gnd) connected to ground. Are there any resistors connected to pin1? The regulator can run hot if it is oscillating due to bad in put or output filter caps, or due to very heavy load.
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                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
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                        • audiofreak19
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                          • Apr 2013
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                          #52
                          Re: E390vl help with regulator testing

                          Only reason I thought it was adjustable was because pin 1 was labeled adj on the pcb

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                          • audiofreak19
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                            • Apr 2013
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                            #53
                            Re: E390vl help with regulator testing

                            And I would have to check the filter caps with a ear meter right.

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                            • audiofreak19
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                              • Apr 2013
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                              #54
                              Re: E390vl help with regulator testing

                              Sorry esr meter

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                              • budm
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 40746
                                • USA

                                #55
                                Re: E390vl help with regulator testing

                                Lets try the easy thing first, measure the resistance of the output pin with ref to ground to see if the regulator is trying to feed really low resistance load which will cause to much current draw, that will be the easy test first.
                                Never stop learning
                                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                • ecking767
                                  Badcaps Veteran
                                  • Oct 2009
                                  • 492
                                  • USA

                                  #56
                                  Re: E390vl help with regulator testing

                                  tracing the tab of the regulator it look like it going to inductor,resistor and then main CPU,did you check the processor for overheating?

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                                  • audiofreak19
                                    Badcaps Veteran
                                    • Apr 2013
                                    • 556
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                                    #57
                                    Re: E390vl help with regulator testing

                                    Nothing else on the board over heats. I touched just about every other component to see if anything else was getting hot and they weren't.

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                                    • audiofreak19
                                      Badcaps Veteran
                                      • Apr 2013
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                                      #58
                                      Re: E390vl help with regulator testing

                                      Hey sorry to get to ya after a couple of days. I measured the resistance of the output to a ref ground on the chassis and it read 1.1ohms.

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                                      • audiofreak19
                                        Badcaps Veteran
                                        • Apr 2013
                                        • 556
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                                        #59
                                        Re: E390vl help with regulator testing

                                        The resistance between the adj and the input is 58 ohms. Between tab and adj it's 1.1 ohms. Between the tab and the input it's 58 ohms. All of these measurements were taken with the tv unplugged.

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                                        • budm
                                          Badcaps Legend
                                          • Feb 2010
                                          • 40746
                                          • USA

                                          #60
                                          Re: E390vl help with regulator testing

                                          Originally posted by audiofreak19
                                          Hey sorry to get to ya after a couple of days. I measured the resistance of the output to a ref ground on the chassis and it read 1.1ohms.
                                          I think you should remove that regulator and then measure the resistance between the output pad (center pin or big tab) and circuit ground (chassis) to see if it still show 1.1 Ohm.
                                          Also post the good closed up picture after the IC is removed.
                                          Last edited by budm; 05-09-2014, 06:50 PM.
                                          Never stop learning
                                          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                          Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                          TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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