Sharp LC-52E77U no pic. Or sound found dead cockroach under power board HELP

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  • freakaftr8
    Badcaps Legend
    • Oct 2012
    • 3743
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    #21
    Re: Sharp LC-52E77U no pic. Or sound found dead cockroach under power board HELP

    Poor connection to the laps most likely created this. It's like a bottle neck in current. The weakest point will melt.
    Did I leave the soldering iron on?

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    • mr.mroz88
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2013
      • 52
      • florida

      #22
      Re: Sharp LC-52E77U no pic. Or sound found dead cockroach under power board HELP

      Nothing looks burned on the board
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      • freakaftr8
        Badcaps Legend
        • Oct 2012
        • 3743
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        #23
        Re: Sharp LC-52E77U no pic. Or sound found dead cockroach under power board HELP

        You may have to either search for the lamp holders or carefully solder a bridge with a wire from point to point now.
        Did I leave the soldering iron on?

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        • mr.mroz88
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2013
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          #24
          Re: Sharp LC-52E77U no pic. Or sound found dead cockroach under power board HELP

          Originally posted by freakaftr8
          Poor connection to the laps most likely created this. It's like a bottle neck in current. The weakest point will melt.
          Ok, well what should i do with that

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          • mr.mroz88
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2013
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            #25
            Re: Sharp LC-52E77U no pic. Or sound found dead cockroach under power board HELP

            Oooh , alright so if i change those metal holders that will actually help?

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            • mr.mroz88
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2013
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              #26
              Re: Sharp LC-52E77U no pic. Or sound found dead cockroach under power board HELP

              Why iam asking because if i get luck and buy those somewhere will this happen again ?

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              • stj
                Great Sage 齊天大聖
                • Dec 2009
                • 30977
                • Albion

                #27
                Re: Sharp LC-52E77U no pic. Or sound found dead cockroach under power board HELP

                if you desolder the holders you may be able to reverse the contacts so the burned side is away from the tube.

                BUT the contact on the tube will also be burned.
                so you need to sand the burned contacts to clean metal - fit the lamps - then solder the joints really.

                btw, i'v never seen these before - only tubes soldered to long boards!

                to answer your question - it will happen again because the tube contact is burned and the design is bad.

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                • mr.mroz88
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                  • Jul 2013
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                  #28
                  Re: Sharp LC-52E77U no pic. Or sound found dead cockroach under power board HELP

                  Ok, u saying "solder the joints really " do u mean joints between the holder and tube ?
                  Sorry about this stupid questions but thats the way i learn
                  Thank you

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                  • mr.mroz88
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2013
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                    #29
                    Re: Sharp LC-52E77U no pic. Or sound found dead cockroach under power board HELP

                    I mean there is nothing to solder , those metal holders are in i plastic "bracket " and the lamps just slide there , also the side where the lams are is not burned , only the pins that goes to the actual board .

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                    • stj
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                      • Dec 2009
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                      #30
                      Re: Sharp LC-52E77U no pic. Or sound found dead cockroach under power board HELP

                      foto of the end of some lamps would help.

                      normally when a contact burns, both of the parts conected burn.

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                      • freakaftr8
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 3743
                        • USA

                        #31
                        Re: Sharp LC-52E77U no pic. Or sound found dead cockroach under power board HELP

                        Kinda redneck but you can always try soldering to the end of the lamp. Wear safety glasses.
                        Did I leave the soldering iron on?

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                        • mr.mroz88
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                          • Jul 2013
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                          #32
                          Re: Sharp LC-52E77U no pic. Or sound found dead cockroach under power board HELP

                          Ccfl
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                          • mr.mroz88
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                            • Jul 2013
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                            #33
                            Re: Sharp LC-52E77U no pic. Or sound found dead cockroach under power board HELP

                            .....
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                            • mr.mroz88
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                              • Jul 2013
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                              #34
                              Re: Sharp LC-52E77U no pic. Or sound found dead cockroach under power board HELP

                              .......
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                              • mr.mroz88
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                                • Jul 2013
                                • 52
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                                #35
                                Re: Sharp LC-52E77U no pic. Or sound found dead cockroach under power board HELP

                                U can actually see that the holdet is not burn where the lamp slide in , its burn from the another side ... :/

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                                • stj
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                                  • Dec 2009
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                                  #36
                                  Re: Sharp LC-52E77U no pic. Or sound found dead cockroach under power board HELP

                                  no, the clips are burned a bit too.
                                  the other side could mean it's a 2part clip and the burn is where they are spot welded together.

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                                  • stj
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                                    • Dec 2009
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                                    #37
                                    Re: Sharp LC-52E77U no pic. Or sound found dead cockroach under power board HELP

                                    looking closer i see the problem.
                                    atleast i think i do.

                                    the pin on the bottom of the clip that goes through the pcb is too thin to handle the current.
                                    that probably means the tubes are on the way out & drawing more current than intended.

                                    all i can think of is soldering thick copper wire to each clip where the pin used to be.
                                    use lead free solder - you'l probably need that higher melting point!

                                    long term, a friend of mine replaced the tubes in a few backlit tv's using strips of leds that come on 5m reels from china - it works petty well.

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                                    • mr.mroz88
                                      Senior Member
                                      • Jul 2013
                                      • 52
                                      • florida

                                      #38
                                      Re: Sharp LC-52E77U no pic. Or sound found dead cockroach under power board HELP

                                      Thank you so much for your time that help me a lot ...
                                      Idea with diodes sound nice but i dont think i can do that :/
                                      Anyway i will check it out today thx

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                                      • mr.mroz88
                                        Senior Member
                                        • Jul 2013
                                        • 52
                                        • florida

                                        #39
                                        Re: Sharp LC-52E77U no pic. Or sound found dead cockroach under power board HELP

                                        This is how the "holders " actually look
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                                        • budm
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                                          • Feb 2010
                                          • 40746
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                                          #40
                                          Re: Sharp LC-52E77U no pic. Or sound found dead cockroach under power board HELP

                                          OK, looking at your pictures, you have poor contact problem between the blade of the lamp socket, the C-clamp part of the socket that makes contact with the lamp is OK, it is the blade which shows black carbon marking is having problem making contact with black socket on the inverter board. You need to inspect those black sockets on the inverter board for contact corrosion/black carbon/burnt contacts. You need to clean the contacts real well.
                                          Is this the inverter board you have?
                                          http://www.shopjimmy.com/media/catal...tka529wjn1.jpg
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                                          Last edited by budm; 05-13-2014, 05:01 PM.
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