Sharp Aquos LC52SE94U hit by surge

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  • tom66
    EVs Rule
    • Apr 2011
    • 32560
    • UK

    #121
    Re: Sharp Aquos LC52SE94U hit by surge

    If the current sense resistance is different, then it would alter the output power available.

    Exceeding the limit would cause the circuit to fold back (I expect) leading to a sag in PFC bus voltage, which would eventually cause a sag in the output voltage of the power supply and/or other faults.

    It could also just cut out if a pre-set limit occurs, or skip pulses (probably more likely.)

    I seem to recall having a LCD TV with a PFC fault. The controller IC would become jumpy below about ~215V AC mains, the unit being rated for 100-265VAC. This was a rare event but would mean occasionally the TV backlight would flicker especially if things like a fridge had just started causing the mains voltage to dip.

    I think I found a spare PSU for that one and didn't fix the old one, but if I were to take a guess, I'd say there was a chance the controller was erroneously detecting an over-current an automatically folding back.

    Of course, the resistors could be the same. So you could draw more power. However, you'd start coming across other limits: the inductor might start saturating, which can cause excessive power dissipation in the MOSFET, damaging it. Or, the MOSFET could simply naturally run hotter, due to the higher load, leading to early failure.
    Last edited by tom66; 03-07-2014, 07:24 PM.
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    • Fwrothy
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2014
      • 178
      • Canada

      #122
      Re: Sharp Aquos LC52SE94U hit by surge

      So i will take that as, "it's possible" just not sure when I comes to impedance whether something like paralleled loads are akin to resistive loads.

      Would two MOSFETs each handling individual load of matched coils (which are in parallel), same duty cycle(incl. phase), share a total load through individual diodes to main caps and transformer primary input switching ?
      Last edited by Fwrothy; 03-07-2014, 08:25 PM. Reason: Add related question

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      • budm
        Badcaps Legend
        • Feb 2010
        • 40746
        • USA

        #123
        Re: Sharp Aquos LC52SE94U hit by surge

        From Fairchild, the two outputs (drv1, drv2) of the IC are out of phase from each other.
        Never stop learning
        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

        Inverter testing using old CFL:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

        TV Factory reset codes listing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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        • Fwrothy
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2014
          • 178
          • Canada

          #124
          Re: Sharp Aquos LC52SE94U hit by surge

          Originally posted by budm
          From Fairchild, the two outputs (drv1, drv2) of the IC are out of phase from each other.
          I showed drive SCH in #95, both MOSFET drives identical( only one illustrated) parallel to pin 7 L6562D

          See above edit
          Attached Files

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          • Fwrothy
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2014
            • 178
            • Canada

            #125
            Re: Sharp Aquos LC52SE94U hit by surge

            Originally posted by budm



            The drive from the PFC IC, one of it may be get inverted to produce 180deg out of phase drive signal
            I read the first link, I think I get it:analogous to a two cylinder pump I think...
            Link 2 doesn't apply since we have a full bridge rectifier...
            The third strategy takes advantage of the entire wave form, also non applicable...
            These are all really cool stategies from what I have learned so far, probably better than what I am seeing in this supply; they are also probably more modern since this tv is a vintage '07 or'08 :-D
            Last edited by Fwrothy; 03-07-2014, 09:15 PM. Reason: Add info

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            • Fwrothy
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2014
              • 178
              • Canada

              #126
              Re: Sharp Aquos LC52SE94U hit by surge

              No more short!
              Attached Files

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              • Fwrothy
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2014
                • 178
                • Canada

                #127
                Re: Sharp Aquos LC52SE94U hit by surge


                ...for now anyway!
                Thank you Budm, Tom66 and everyone who contributed to this thread
                Attached Files

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                • budm
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 40746
                  • USA

                  #128
                  Re: Sharp Aquos LC52SE94U hit by surge

                  Great!
                  Never stop learning
                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                  • Fwrothy
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2014
                    • 178
                    • Canada

                    #129
                    Re: Sharp Aquos LC52SE94U hit by surge

                    Originally posted by budm
                    Great!
                    Thanks again for all the knowledge and your patience especially

                    I guess I need a new project; got a couple of Yamaha AV receivers in the basement I scooped from the back of a tv shop, notice one had a blown fuse when hunting around for a tv fuse...think I'll start there

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                    • tom66
                      EVs Rule
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 32560
                      • UK

                      #130
                      Re: Sharp Aquos LC52SE94U hit by surge

                      awesome!
                      Now to fix mine!!
                      Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                      For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                      • Fwrothy
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2014
                        • 178
                        • Canada

                        #131
                        Re: Sharp Aquos LC52SE94U hit by surge

                        Thanks Tom if only I had your knowledge!
                        Your site is such a great resource

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                        • budm
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 40746
                          • USA

                          #132
                          Re: Sharp Aquos LC52SE94U hit by surge

                          Use the lamp again for troubleshooting.
                          You should build these:
                          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/bud...tml?sort=3&o=1
                          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/bud...tml?sort=3&o=0
                          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/bud...tml?sort=3&o=7
                          Never stop learning
                          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                          Inverter testing using old CFL:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                          TV Factory reset codes listing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                          • Fwrothy
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2014
                            • 178
                            • Canada

                            #133
                            Re: Sharp Aquos LC52SE94U hit by surge

                            Sound advice! Will come in hand for my new project

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