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  • PlainBill
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2009
    • 7034
    • USA

    #41
    Re: 42PFL3704D/F7 No picture

    Originally posted by tom66
    I've never had a problem with Firefox 3.6.13 on Ubuntu with Elektrotanya. With Adblock Plus, but disabled on Elektrotanya website.
    And I'm running Firefox 7.0.1 with Adblock Plus on Windows 7 and don't have any problems. The location of the 'Get manual' button varies depending if you are logged in or not.

    Your results may vary.

    PlainBill
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    • fellim
      Member
      • Mar 2011
      • 36

      #42
      Re: 42PFL3704D/F7 No picture

      Tried FF 3.6 and 7, Chrome 11, Opera, and IE 11 (unable to install earlier version). Used find function with no luck. Can somebody send me this PDF?
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      • fellim
        Member
        • Mar 2011
        • 36

        #43
        Re: 42PFL3704D/F7 No picture

        Any idea where i can purchase a ribbon cable that goes from the logic board to t-con?

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        • jayoung
          Senior Member
          • May 2011
          • 172

          #44
          Re: 42PFL3704D/F7 No picture

          I purchased some of the the flat ribbon cables on e-Bay. They were shipped from China and I got them in about a week. You will need to know how many pins and the width of the cable.

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          • s10outhpaw
            New Member
            • Jul 2011
            • 6

            #45
            Re: 42PFL3704D/F7 No picture

            I have a philips 42pfl3704d/a7 with no picture, Iknow it has something to do with the inverters. I have checked the voltage at the cn1804 and cn1803 connector and got 50v, isn't that to high(should be +24v )? the screen flashes when you turn on the tv everything else seems to work sound, channel changer and you can see the pic. with a flashlight.

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            • retiredcaps
              Badcaps Legend
              • Apr 2010
              • 9271

              #46
              Re: 42PFL3704D/F7 No picture

              Originally posted by s10outhpaw
              I have checked the voltage at the cn1804 and cn1803 connector and got 50v, isn't that to high(should be +24v )?
              I suspect you may be using the wrong ground for your measurements. If you are really getting 50V DC, a lot of capacitors should have blown tops.
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              • cashkennedy
                Badcaps Veteran
                • Aug 2011
                • 666
                • USA

                #47
                Re: 42PFL3704D/F7 No picture

                Might also have your multimeter on AC, instead of DC voltage. Im too lazy to consider whether that makes voltages seem higher or lower then normal.
                Fixed so far 12 lcd's , 1 plasmas, 5 monitors, 0 dlp's (plan to keep the dlps at 0). and 3 atx power supplies, and 2 motherboards.

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                • s10outhpaw
                  New Member
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 6

                  #48
                  Re: 42PFL3704D/F7 No picture

                  Ok now I got 24v was using ac instead of dc setting, I was using the hot ground of the tv, now I suspect the invertor board to be the problem, tried resoldering all the connections on the board no help.

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                  • retiredcaps
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 9271

                    #49
                    Re: 42PFL3704D/F7 No picture

                    The standard procedure here is to provide clear focused top down view pictures of all your boards following the instructions in my sig file below exactly.

                    Afterwards, we can suggest other test points.
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                    • s10outhpaw
                      New Member
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 6

                      #50
                      Re: 42PFL3704D/F7 No picture

                      Here are the pictures of my boards
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                      • budm
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 40746
                        • USA

                        #51
                        Re: 42PFL3704D/F7 No picture

                        Can we get CLEAR closed up pictures of the inverter board where the connectors (white connectors with red/black wires) are?
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                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
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                        • s10outhpaw
                          New Member
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 6

                          #52
                          Re: 42PFL3704D/F7 No picture

                          hope these are better, I'm not much of a photographer.
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                          • dadsfishin
                            New Member
                            • May 2012
                            • 1
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                            #53
                            Re: 42PFL3704D/F7 No picture

                            Thanks to all who have posted help on this thread thus far. I t gave me a place to start looking for my offending components. We have a nice bright white screen, sound and can move through the channels. Tried all inputs, and the output is the same. Just a bright white screen.
                            I know HOW to use a multimeter, just not sure exactly where to test inside the tv.

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                            • retiredcaps
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 9271

                              #54
                              Re: 42PFL3704D/F7 No picture

                              Originally posted by dadsfishin
                              just not sure exactly where to test inside the tv.
                              Check to see if the SMD fuse on the inverter board is good. A good fuse should measure less than 1.0 ohms.
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                              • budm
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                                • Feb 2010
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                                #55
                                Re: 42PFL3704D/F7 No picture

                                @dadsfishin, so you do have backlights, you do see glowing screen, if you do, then you need to check the surface mounted fuse and voltages on the T-CON board, its the board that sits at the center top middle of the panel in the back. Post the pictures using attachment function.
                                Never stop learning
                                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                • retiredcaps
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Apr 2010
                                  • 9271

                                  #56
                                  Re: 42PFL3704D/F7 No picture

                                  Originally posted by budm
                                  @dadsfishin, so you do have backlights, you do see glowing screen, if you do, then you need to check the surface mounted fuse and voltages on the T-CON board, its the board that sits at the center top middle of the panel in the back.
                                  Arrgh, of course I meant t-con, not inverter. Thanks budm for posting the correct check.
                                  Last edited by retiredcaps; 05-03-2012, 11:05 PM.
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                                  • budm
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                                    • Feb 2010
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                                    #57
                                    Re: 42PFL3704D/F7 No picture

                                    @s10outhpaw, check the fuses on the inverter boards, see redlined picture.
                                    Attached Files
                                    Never stop learning
                                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                    • budm
                                      Badcaps Legend
                                      • Feb 2010
                                      • 40746
                                      • USA

                                      #58
                                      Re: 42PFL3704D/F7 No picture

                                      @retiredcap, that what I thought you were thinking about, too much solder fume tonight?
                                      Never stop learning
                                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                      • retiredcaps
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Apr 2010
                                        • 9271

                                        #59
                                        Re: 42PFL3704D/F7 No picture

                                        Originally posted by budm
                                        @retiredcap, that what I thought you were thinking about, too much solder fume tonight?
                                        I'm catching up on missed episodes of "Missing" via ctv.ca and trying to answer questions while watching the other screen (dual monitor setup).

                                        Missing, stars Ashley Judd, is like "24".
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                                        • budm
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                                          • Feb 2010
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                                          #60
                                          Re: 42PFL3704D/F7 No picture

                                          Oh, I love "24". I will check out 'Missing' to see if it is good.
                                          Never stop learning
                                          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                          Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                          TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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