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  • Davi.p
    Hobbist
    • Sep 2009
    • 4264
    • Italy - Milan

    #21
    Re: EU55JS9000T black screen and sound good

    i don't like downloading big files.. can you report connector signals? how do you make the screen test? Standard RC or service RC? can you post a photo of the OCB cable? especially the connector.. are you sure the replacing ocb cable is good?
    Last edited by Davi.p; 10-01-2023, 03:57 AM.

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    • totof
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2017
      • 157
      • france

      #22
      Re: EU55JS9000T black screen and sound good

      I make the tcon test with a service RC (it's a RC bought by my colleague, the tv is his).
      Some photos of the tv during the test.
      A photo of the one connect cable.
      Attached Files

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      • Davi.p
        Hobbist
        • Sep 2009
        • 4264
        • Italy - Milan

        #23
        Re: EU55JS9000T black screen and sound good

        you must show the tables of the main power board, the orange one..

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        • totof
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2017
          • 157
          • france

          #24
          Re: EU55JS9000T black screen and sound good

          The connector pin of power board
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          • Davi.p
            Hobbist
            • Sep 2009
            • 4264
            • Italy - Milan

            #25
            Re: EU55JS9000T black screen and sound good

            OCB has a short circuit that disables the screen (12v off> tcon off) that disables the dim signal to the led driver board (backlight off).. since you are not a technician you have to get a replacement ocb.. 12v on MB maybe remains on because of a protection circuit at valley of the screen switcher mosfet..
            Last edited by Davi.p; 10-01-2023, 08:43 AM.

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            • totof
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2017
              • 157
              • france

              #26
              Re: EU55JS9000T black screen and sound good

              Thank you Davi.p
              Whether the OCB is connected or not I have 12V on the fuse at the input of the tcon.

              Before bringing me his TV, my colleague went to an approved Samsung repair center but the technician didn't really look because the TV was too old for him. He tried another cable and another box but same result. But the technician didn't really know if his cable and his box were really functional.

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              • nomoresonys
                Badcaps Legend
                • Jan 2013
                • 12081
                • U.S.

                #27
                Re: EU55JS9000T black screen and sound good

                Check up on the fan in your ocb, make sure it's clean and functioning properly.

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                • Davi.p
                  Hobbist
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 4264
                  • Italy - Milan

                  #28
                  Re: EU55JS9000T black screen and sound good

                  Whether the OCB is connected or not I have 12V on the fuse at the input of the tcon.
                  This changes things..

                  because the TV was too old for him
                  that man is ridiculous..

                  He tried another cable and another box but same result. But the technician didn't really know if his cable and his box were really functional
                  so this does not change things..

                  Carefully if possibile, safe, test the connector for the ocb on the main board to find the 12v feed pins, then connect a protected 12v test psu to the ocb to see if it goes into protection..
                  Last edited by Davi.p; 10-01-2023, 01:51 PM.

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                  • totof
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2017
                    • 157
                    • france

                    #29
                    Re: EU55JS9000T black screen and sound good

                    The fan was a little dusty and I cleaned it, it still worked.

                    Whether the OCB is connected or not I measure 12V on pins 25 and 26 of CN201
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                    • totof
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2017
                      • 157
                      • france

                      #30
                      Re: EU55JS9000T black screen and sound good

                      Originally posted by Davi.p
                      OCB has a short circuit that disables the screen (12v off> tcon off) that disables the dim signal to the led driver board (backlight off).. since you are not a technician you have to get a replacement ocb.. 12v on MB maybe remains on because of a protection circuit at valley of the screen switcher mosfet..
                      Yesterday I had the opportunity to try another one connect cable and the result is the same, namely that the backlighting turns off immediately as soon as the OCB is connected. So it is not a cable issue.

                      I checked the B13V signal on CN201 (pin 25,26 on main board side) and I see 12,73V when OCB is not connected and 12,67V when OCB is connected.
                      It's a little below 13V but it might still be normal, I don't know.

                      I'm following up on any leads that could help me find the origin of the problem.
                      I have been looking for the OCB card diagram for several days but it is nowhere to be found.

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                      • nomoresonys
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Jan 2013
                        • 12081
                        • U.S.

                        #31
                        Re: EU55JS9000T black screen and sound good

                        The socket on the tv that you plug the cable into may be damaged, check it over.

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                        • totof
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2017
                          • 157
                          • france

                          #32
                          Re: EU55JS9000T black screen and sound good

                          I checked the connections on both sides, no problem detected
                          I measured the voltages on all the self on the OCB board.
                          L203 = 5.1V
                          L201=1.51V
                          L208,L209=12.3V
                          L901=1.16V
                          L304.305=0.92V
                          L302=0.89V
                          L802=0.05V !!!!!!!!!!!!
                          L401=1.09V
                          L402=0.97V
                          L202=3.3V
                          L404=0.90V
                          L403=1.8V
                          L307=0.99V

                          Maybe a problem on L802 but I don't know what it's for because I don't have the card schematic.
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                          • nomoresonys
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Jan 2013
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                            #33
                            Re: EU55JS9000T black screen and sound good

                            Guess the possibilities are, bad cable but you said you tried a good one, bad ocb, maybe the guy who tried a different ocb had a bad one or one that was incompatible, I would check as may components as I could on the ocb, bet one is bad.

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                            • totof
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2017
                              • 157
                              • france

                              #34
                              Re: EU55JS9000T black screen and sound good

                              I checked the capacitors for short circuits and found several with low resistance:
                              - C373, C377, C381, C382, C383: 36.6 ohm
                              - C3318: 0 ohm
                              - C1014: 36 ohm
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                              • nomoresonys
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                                • Jan 2013
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                                #35
                                Re: EU55JS9000T black screen and sound good

                                Ok, that's part of the battle, now to just find someone with a properly functioning ocb to compare with, I have no idea what those voltages should be, have always stayed away from those ocb tvs.

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                                • totof
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                                  • Feb 2017
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                                  #36
                                  Re: EU55JS9000T black screen and sound good

                                  The problem is that this OCB model cannot be found, either new or used.

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                                  • nomoresonys
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                                    • Jan 2013
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                                    #37
                                    Re: EU55JS9000T black screen and sound good

                                    Looks like they run very hot with little ventilation if any, if I had to use one that worked, I would leave the cover off and also get some air blowing on it to try to keep it cool.
                                    Last edited by nomoresonys; 10-07-2023, 03:51 PM.

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                                    • Davi.p
                                      Hobbist
                                      • Sep 2009
                                      • 4264
                                      • Italy - Milan

                                      #38
                                      Re: EU55JS9000T black screen and sound good

                                      one inductor with no voltage is normal, is for the Sat input/output

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                                      • totof
                                        Senior Member
                                        • Feb 2017
                                        • 157
                                        • france

                                        #39
                                        Re: EU55JS9000T black screen and sound good

                                        Originally posted by Davi.p
                                        one inductor with no voltage is normal, is for the Sat input/output
                                        Thanks, no need for me to focus on that side

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                                        • totof
                                          Senior Member
                                          • Feb 2017
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                                          • france

                                          #40
                                          Re: EU55JS9000T black screen and sound good

                                          Originally posted by nomoresonys
                                          Looks like they run very hot with little ventilation if any, if I had to use one that worked, I would leave the cover off and also get some air blowing on it to try to keep it cool.
                                          I notice that the backlight cuts off a fraction of a second after plugging in the OCB cable, it's really instantaneous, while the sound from the TV comes several seconds after plugging it in.

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