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  • mikay786
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Aug 2014
    • 765
    • UK

    #41
    Re: What is this that has blown?

    So the 50v are the correct value?
    Last edited by mikay786; 10-30-2015, 10:12 AM.

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    • budm
      Badcaps Legend
      • Feb 2010
      • 40746
      • USA

      #42
      Re: What is this that has blown?

      I would have use 100V rating minimum. The caps are exposed to about 78 peak Voltage.
      Last edited by budm; 10-30-2015, 10:51 AM.
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      • ReeceyBurger123
        Never Give Up !
        • May 2014
        • 7325
        • Britain

        #43
        Re: What is this that has blown?

        Probably best to use 100v one to limit damage in future cases mate.
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        • mikay786
          Badcaps Veteran
          • Aug 2014
          • 765
          • UK

          #44
          Re: What is this that has blown?

          Alright I'll order some 100v

          Can I use the ones installed for testing purposes as wont get replacements till Monday

          And we're the original ones 50v?
          Last edited by mikay786; 10-30-2015, 10:44 AM.

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          • budm
            Badcaps Legend
            • Feb 2010
            • 40746
            • USA

            #45
            Re: What is this that has blown?

            You can leave them out for testing purpose. The cap are there for to reduce Diode switching noise.
            Never stop learning
            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

            Inverter testing using old CFL:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

            TV Factory reset codes listing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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            • mikay786
              Badcaps Veteran
              • Aug 2014
              • 765
              • UK

              #46
              Re: What is this that has blown?

              Ok Maplins only have 2 100v 0.1uf caps !!

              As I need four can I use higher voltage ones? Say 125v or 150v and mix and match?

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              • budm
                Badcaps Legend
                • Feb 2010
                • 40746
                • USA

                #47
                Re: What is this that has blown?

                >100V will be fine.

                GALE 3080.
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                Last edited by budm; 10-30-2015, 12:01 PM.
                Never stop learning
                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                • fzabkar
                  Badcaps Veteran
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 772
                  • Australia

                  #48
                  Re: What is this that has blown?

                  Originally posted by budm
                  BTW, what is the P/N of the power amplifier IC?
                  TDA7294

                  https://cdn.badcaps-static.com/pdfs/...6e7c926434.pdf

                  I can't see how +/-39VDC is reduced to +/-11V. ???
                  Last edited by fzabkar; 10-30-2015, 11:49 AM.

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                  • budm
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 40746
                    • USA

                    #49
                    Re: What is this that has blown?

                    'I can't see how +/-39VDC is reduced to +/-11V. ???'
                    The 2SC1815 & 2SA1015 and the Zeners are for the linear regulators.
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                    Last edited by budm; 10-30-2015, 12:04 PM.
                    Never stop learning
                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                    • fzabkar
                      Badcaps Veteran
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 772
                      • Australia

                      #50
                      Re: What is this that has blown?

                      The 2SA1015 and 2SC1815 are rated for 50V, 150mA, 400mW:

                      (2SC1815)
                      (2SA1015)

                      A voltage drop of 28V (= 39 - 11) at 15mA would exceed the power rating. Does this mean that the other board is only drawing around 10mA at +/-11V? The power LED must be drawing at least 5mA.
                      Last edited by fzabkar; 10-30-2015, 01:20 PM.

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                      • mikay786
                        Badcaps Veteran
                        • Aug 2014
                        • 765
                        • UK

                        #51
                        Re: What is this that has blown?

                        Went to maplins again and they only had 3x 150v and 1x 180v capacitors.

                        Will these be ok?

                        And just googling the numbers on them I'm not sure they are the correct ones

                        151j + 181j

                        He was saying all there parts draws are a mess as workers keep putting stuff back in the wrong place.

                        Also picked up some new fuse holders as per stj's recommendation
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                        Last edited by mikay786; 10-30-2015, 02:29 PM.

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                        • fzabkar
                          Badcaps Veteran
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 772
                          • Australia

                          #52
                          Re: What is this that has blown?

                          Those are not voltage ratings.

                          151J = 150pF
                          181J = 180pF

                          Neither capacitor is suitable.

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                          • mikay786
                            Badcaps Veteran
                            • Aug 2014
                            • 765
                            • UK

                            #53
                            Re: What is this that has blown?

                            wtf maplins are bloody useless, I told him 0.1uf

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                            • mikay786
                              Badcaps Veteran
                              • Aug 2014
                              • 765
                              • UK

                              #54
                              Re: What is this that has blown?

                              Are you sure I need 100v, I cant seem to find any on ebay or farnel in ceramic disk

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                              • stj
                                Great Sage 齊天大聖
                                • Dec 2009
                                • 31001
                                • Albion

                                #55
                                Re: What is this that has blown?

                                you dont need disc, you can use multilayer - little square ones.
                                as long as they are ceramic 100nf (0.1uf) at 100v minimum

                                maplin has been a waste of space for years btw.
                                farnell has free delivery with no minimum order these days - so use farnell.

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                                • mikay786
                                  Badcaps Veteran
                                  • Aug 2014
                                  • 765
                                  • UK

                                  #56
                                  Re: What is this that has blown?

                                  what about film ones?

                                  yea maplins is open late and is down the road, plus weekend was coming up so earliest I would get from farnel would be Monday.

                                  Truly dislike maplins!

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                                  • budm
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Feb 2010
                                    • 40746
                                    • USA

                                    #57
                                    Re: What is this that has blown?

                                    Originally posted by fzabkar
                                    The 2SA1015 and 2SC1815 are rated for 50V, 150mA, 400mW:

                                    (2SC1815)
                                    (2SA1015)

                                    A voltage drop of 28V (= 39 - 11) at 15mA would exceed the power rating. Does this mean that the other board is only drawing around 10mA at +/-11V? The power LED must be drawing at least 5mA.
                                    If you look at the board, there are two 470 Ohms 1W resistors, each one for feeding the Collectors of the Transistors, the Zeners are probably 12V, so they are not feeding the transistors directly with 39V.
                                    Last edited by budm; 10-30-2015, 03:44 PM.
                                    Never stop learning
                                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                    • stj
                                      Great Sage 齊天大聖
                                      • Dec 2009
                                      • 31001
                                      • Albion

                                      #58
                                      Re: What is this that has blown?

                                      here you go:
                                      http://uk.farnell.com/vishay-bc-comp...rad/dp/1141783

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                                      • stj
                                        Great Sage 齊天大聖
                                        • Dec 2009
                                        • 31001
                                        • Albion

                                        #59
                                        Re: What is this that has blown?

                                        Originally posted by mikay786
                                        Truly dislike maplins!
                                        i had to school the counter staff once over how to read the colour-codes on the resistors.
                                        they didnt know the colours actually meant anything!!!!!!!!

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                                        • mikay786
                                          Badcaps Veteran
                                          • Aug 2014
                                          • 765
                                          • UK

                                          #60
                                          Re: What is this that has blown?

                                          http://uk.farnell.com/multicomp/mcrr...rad/dp/1216434

                                          Are these ok to use?

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