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  • ivtec
    Badcaps Legend
    • Dec 2008
    • 1967
    • USA

    #1

    Missing trace pad help

    Hi guys; i have here a Kindle mother board that charger port fell off, i have a new port but there is a missing trace pad on the board the second trace on the left next to the ground pin,
    can i chant this missing pin; see pic on the link,thanks and have a merry Christmas.


    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kindle-Fire-...8AAOSw8-tWXglW
    Last edited by ivtec; 12-23-2015, 01:36 PM.
  • stj
    Great Sage 齊天大聖
    • Dec 2009
    • 30963
    • Albion

    #2
    Re: Missing trace pad help

    there are 2 ground pins, the other side is the 5v.
    the remaining 2 are usb data

    they link to the other side of the board, so you could fit a fine wire through the hole to solder to the pin.

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    • ivtec
      Badcaps Legend
      • Dec 2008
      • 1967
      • USA

      #3
      Re: Missing trace pad help

      Originally posted by stj
      there are 2 ground pins, the other side is the 5v.
      the remaining 2 are usb data

      they link to the other side of the board, so you could fit a fine wire through the hole to solder to the pin.
      Thanks stj;i have another same board that is bad and i scraped at the beginning of the missing pad and it is tied to the first pin which is ground and goes to that black chip,if so i can chant it to the first pin on the left and connect a small wire to the black chip right in front of the missing pin see pic of the board that is ruined and has only 2 trace paths

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      • ivtec
        Badcaps Legend
        • Dec 2008
        • 1967
        • USA

        #4
        Re: Missing trace pad help

        Thanks stj;i have another same board that is bad and i scraped at the beginning of the missing pad and it is tied to the first pin which is ground and goes to that black chip,if so i can chant it to the first pin on the left and connect a small wire to the black chip right in front of the missing pin see pic of the board that is ruined and has only 2 trace paths

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        • ivtec
          Badcaps Legend
          • Dec 2008
          • 1967
          • USA

          #5
          Re: Missing trace pad help

          Sorry here it goes
          Attached Files

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          • ivtec
            Badcaps Legend
            • Dec 2008
            • 1967
            • USA

            #6
            Re: Missing trace pad help

            Originally posted by ivtec
            Sorry here it goes
            here is one more pic,Sorry is kinda hard to take good pic with a crapy camara
            Attached Files

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            • ivtec
              Badcaps Legend
              • Dec 2008
              • 1967
              • USA

              #7
              Re: Missing trace pad help

              Originally posted by ivtec
              here is one more pic,Sorry is kinda hard to take good pic with a crapy camara
              Here another pic hope is better
              Attached Files

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              • stj
                Great Sage 齊天大聖
                • Dec 2009
                • 30963
                • Albion

                #8
                Re: Missing trace pad help

                these crap connectors get ripped out a lot do they?
                i know it's common on portable harddrives.

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                • TossDon
                  AKA Masood
                  • Jun 2013
                  • 26
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: Missing trace pad help

                  The extreme connections are for power, as I saw in the first pic the pads are OK, even without the other 3 pins connected the charging should work, in your next picture, you filled in the solder, remove that to avoid any shorts and wire wrap if you need the the data connection too, generally, you can use the flash card for transfer. Good luck.

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                  • ivtec
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 1967
                    • USA

                    #10
                    Re: Missing trace pad help

                    Originally posted by TossDon
                    The extreme connections are for power, as I saw in the first pic the pads are OK, even without the other 3 pins connected the charging should work, in your next picture, you filled in the solder, remove that to avoid any shorts and wire wrap if you need the the data connection too, generally, you can use the flash card for transfer. Good luck.

                    Thanks TossDon, since there is no trace path on the second trace on the board, can i connect a wire from second port pin to the black chip,but i don't know if i have to connect it somewhere else/ thanks and have a Merry Christmas .

                    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kindle-Fire-...8AAOSw8-tWXglW

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                    • ivtec
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 1967
                      • USA

                      #11
                      Re: Missing trace pad help

                      Originally posted by ivtec
                      Thanks TossDon, since there is no trace path on the second trace on the board, can i connect a wire from second port pin to the black chip,but i don't know if i have to connect it somewhere else/ thanks and have a Merry Christmas .

                      http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kindle-Fire-...8AAOSw8-tWXglW


                      Here the real board pic attach
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                      • TossDon
                        AKA Masood
                        • Jun 2013
                        • 26
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: Missing trace pad help

                        First, clean/remove all the solder dunes and then solder the new connector, the first and last pins should be soldered, leave all the others for now, MAKE SURE there are no shorts and connect and see if charging gets restored. FYI, The second pin from left is the ID for the device and Pin3/Pin4 are for data sync, all three are not needed for charging. Let me know how it goes.

                        Merry Christmas

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                        • ivtec
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 1967
                          • USA

                          #13
                          Re: Missing trace pad help

                          Originally posted by TossDon
                          First, clean/remove all the solder dunes and then solder the new connector, the first and last pins should be soldered, leave all the others for now, MAKE SURE there are no shorts and connect and see if charging gets restored. FYI, The second pin from left is the ID for the device and Pin3/Pin4 are for data sync, all three are not needed for charging. Let me know how it goes.

                          Merry Christmas

                          Thanks TossDon; i'm waiting for the Port,
                          If i don't connect those 2,3,4 pins what happens?

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                          • stj
                            Great Sage 齊天大聖
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 30963
                            • Albion

                            #14
                            Re: Missing trace pad help

                            in theory it will charge, but you cant use the port to connect to a pc - although it should charge from the pc, just no data transfer.

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                            • TossDon
                              AKA Masood
                              • Jun 2013
                              • 26
                              • USA

                              #15
                              Re: Missing trace pad help

                              stj is right, you won't be able to connect to PC for data sync but it will still charge from any USB port.

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                              • ivtec
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Dec 2008
                                • 1967
                                • USA

                                #16
                                Re: Missing trace pad help

                                Thanks guy i appreciate your info and now i understand.

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                                • dj_ricoh
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                                  • Jan 2013
                                  • 2073
                                  • uk

                                  #17
                                  Re: Missing trace pad help

                                  alright!

                                  was reading with great interest this post and i want to ask one thing:

                                  no one suggest to use sand paper?

                                  i have a lot and i only use it in case like this.
                                  Just cook it! It's already broken.

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                                  • stj
                                    Great Sage 齊天大聖
                                    • Dec 2009
                                    • 30963
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                                    #18
                                    Re: Missing trace pad help

                                    why sand?

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                                    • SteveNielsen
                                      Retired Tech
                                      • Jun 2012
                                      • 2327
                                      • USA

                                      #19
                                      Re: Missing trace pad help

                                      Sandpaper would be damaging.

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                                      • ivtec
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Dec 2008
                                        • 1967
                                        • USA

                                        #20
                                        Re: Missing trace pad help

                                        Originally posted by SteveNielsen
                                        Sandpaper would be damaging.
                                        Isn't sand paper good to sand the pins on the port? to make good contacts,i use sand paper to scrape the pins so the solder will adder better,isn't this a good practice,correct me if i'm wrong?

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