Trippling internet speed with pare of AA batteries, ethernet cable and electric tape.

[EasyGoing1]

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I want to know if I can increase my internet speed by attaching a pair of rechargeable AA batteries and also Sata and IDE cables which are optional to a CAT 5 or a CAT 6 Ethernet cable with electrical tape.

I saw that video on Youtube as well .. its complete bullshit!

The ONLY way you can increase speed from your ISP and still keep your service running on a single public IP address, is to:

1) Pay more money for faster service
2) If they have maxed your capacity, then you'll need an ISP that will channel bond multiple services (ie you buy TWO internet connections from them) into a single PVC.

Option 2 requires some pretty complex routing, some networking skills on your part ... and a very flexible ISP. A combination that I think is fair to say the majority of people don't have available to them.

[Spork Schivago]

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I can't believe this is making a comeback! It was around a few years ago. Back then, I want to say they used AC from the wall and you'd plug it into the USB port on your cable modem. Something like that. I wonder how many people actually did it. I had a few customers calling me asking if it'd really work back then.

Also, Stj, are you sure about ISPs using coax? Don't they use fiber now? I know Corning Inc, here in my city, they have a fiber backbone to one of their offices down in Kentucky. And DCSI, they had a fiber backbone to the local cable / telephone company. DCSI wasn't that big of a company. Deposit and Corning aren't that big, so if companies here have fiber, I'd think ISPs would definitely be using fiber. Last I heard, coax could only do 300Mbps. Is that something different though? Just curious.

[kc8adu]

Re: Trippling internet speed with pare of AA batteries, ethernet cable and electric t

i stuck a bunch of 18650 cells on my Ethernet cable.
now the packets arrive before i request them.
anyway modern modems get configured for speed by the headend.
there are hacks around to "uncork" them.

[Captain Bill grace digger]

Re: Trippling internet speed with pare of AA batteries, ethernet cable and electric t

If your ISP doesn't give you the bits of information fast enough, it doesn't matter what you use inside your house.
You could have the fastest best connection inside your home, but from the moment it goes in the ISP box (cable modem, DSL router etc) it's out of your hands.

Cat5e is more than the required quality level for 1 gbps speeds, using Cat6 or Cat6a cables won't give you lower pings or faster speeds, you'd still be limited by the INTERFACE (the network jack) the ISP offers you on the router/modem/whatever and then by the traffic shaping or limits they have installed inside that box or at the ISP level.

There's four pairs inside the network cable (for 1gbps, just 2 for 100mbps) , and you're dealing with AC voltages on each pair, batteries won't do shit for the signal going through those wires. Reducing resistance also doesn't do shit, all those types of videos are just to troll people or they claim ridiculous things for increased number of video views, which in turn makes the video owner money.

The resistance thing is bogus for other reasons as well. Normally, network cables are made out of strands of copper with a standardized resistance per meter. Network cards and equipment like switches and routers and modems are designed from the start to send signal through those 2-4 pairs of wires with such strength to achieve the standard 105 meters maximum length in the standard.

Because this 105 meters distance is very rarely reached and most people use network cables in offices or locations where distance between devices doesn't go over 20-30 meters, some clever guy thought of using aluminum strands plated with copper, because aluminum is cheaper... so the percentage of copper in network cable is much smaller, cable is cheaper, but the resistance of the cable is higher than the one in the standard. These cables are called CCA , Copper Cladded Aluminum.. and they work great for small distances.

However, recently other "clever guys" that make network equipment figured the same thing and said hey, let's "invent" power saving features, a green mode for the network card, where the card will gradually lower the transmission power as long as no transmission errors are detected, to save power and to add another marketing point on the network card's chip feature list.

In time, the quality of the network chips has improved quite a lot, the algorithms to detect signal, amplify and decode signal have improved a lot, so even with reduced power transmission at the other end, the chip receiving the data is smart enough and powerful enough to receive the data and auto correct whatever bits are hard to read due to low power transmission, so modern chips can work well even at distances as high as 105 meters with proper network cable.

However, when you have two chips talking to each other at low power (green mode active on both) and you also add a CCA cable that has added resistance, everything gets screwy at long distances (let's say if you use cables over 20-30 meters long). Disabling the power saving features from the network card's driver setting solves the problem.

So just use quality Cat5e network cable (doesn't have to be Cat6 or Cat6a, you only need these if you think you'll use 10gbps router/switch at some point in the future)


Another thing that's worth keeping in mind is congestion.. let's say the ISP gives internet through a 100 mbps network cable but let's say you're in an apartment building with 20 apartments. Well, those 20+ apartment cables go into a network switch somewhere in the building and that switch probably has only 1gbps port at the output - those 20 apartments share a 1gbps link to the ISP, so if all people would use their internet connection, each person would only get a maximum of 50 mbps because the output to the ISP literally can not do more than 1gbps in total.
Luckily, having 20 people use their internet connections to the max happens extremely rarely, almost never.
BUT, those fiber cables going from each apartment buildings are also going somewhere... for example you may have 6-8 apartment buildings each with a 1gbps fiber cable and these go somewhere to a sort of switch that converts those to a single 2.5gbps+ connection or maybe several 1gbps fiber pairs in a larger fiber cable...

Basically the idea is that between you and the ISP there can be multiple choke points, where there's potential in some situations to appear limitations unrelated to how good your home connection is.
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Thank You for this nice explanation.

[Captain Bill grace digger]

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If you are new to this forum, we can help a lot more if you please post clear focused pictures (max resolution 2000x2000 and 2MB) of your boards using the manage attachments button so they are hosted here. Information and picture clarity compositions should look like this post.

Are you saying I need to post pitchers of my modem and router.

[retiredcaps]

Re: Trippling internet speed with pare of AA batteries, ethernet cable and electric t

Also will eSpeed Accelerator from Predator studios which is a registry edit file help in increasing my bandwidth to a minimum of 30%.

It is like you never even bothered to read my suggestions.

Now into



mode for the rest of this thread.

[diif]

Re: Trippling internet speed with pare of AA batteries, ethernet cable and electric t

Will changing the router channel to the one that is not as frequently used by people in my locality help in increasing my internet speed with inSSIDer software to detect which channel is not as frequently used.

Possibly, it depends how congested your area is. Ideally it should be set to either channel, 1, 6 or 11.

[Captain Bill grace digger]

Re: Trippling internet speed with pare of AA batteries, ethernet cable and electric t

Will changing the router channel to the one that is not as frequently used by people in my locality help in increasing my internet speed with inSSIDer software to detect which channel is not as frequently used.

Also will eSpeed Accelerator from Predator studios which is a registry edit file help in increasing my bandwidth to a minimum of 30%.

[desert-rat]

Re: Trippling internet speed with pare of AA batteries, ethernet cable and electric t

If you are running on WiFi then you might very well triple your Internet speed by connecting to your router by ethernet, instead. I don't know how the batteries and electrical tape are supposed to help.

It is always safest to assume that someone is listening.

With the e.t. ,ghost,big foot part, I was being funny,but not the n.s.a. part. It's like from the book 1984 big brother is watching.

[Uniballer]

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If you are running on WiFi then you might very well triple your Internet speed by connecting to your router by ethernet, instead. I don't know how the batteries and electrical tape are supposed to help.

In any case the n.s.a.is listening.

It is always safest to assume that someone is listening.

[desert-rat]

Re: Trippling internet speed with pare of AA batteries, ethernet cable and electric t

As I remember that method of hooking batterys to the internet is a method of talking to e.t.s or dead people. In any case the n.s.a.is listening.

[mariushm]

Re: Trippling internet speed with pare of AA batteries, ethernet cable and electric t

If your ISP doesn't give you the bits of information fast enough, it doesn't matter what you use inside your house.
You could have the fastest best connection inside your home, but from the moment it goes in the ISP box (cable modem, DSL router etc) it's out of your hands.

Cat5e is more than the required quality level for 1 gbps speeds, using Cat6 or Cat6a cables won't give you lower pings or faster speeds, you'd still be limited by the INTERFACE (the network jack) the ISP offers you on the router/modem/whatever and then by the traffic shaping or limits they have installed inside that box or at the ISP level.

There's four pairs inside the network cable (for 1gbps, just 2 for 100mbps) , and you're dealing with AC voltages on each pair, batteries won't do shit for the signal going through those wires. Reducing resistance also doesn't do shit, all those types of videos are just to troll people or they claim ridiculous things for increased number of video views, which in turn makes the video owner money.

The resistance thing is bogus for other reasons as well. Normally, network cables are made out of strands of copper with a standardized resistance per meter. Network cards and equipment like switches and routers and modems are designed from the start to send signal through those 2-4 pairs of wires with such strength to achieve the standard 105 meters maximum length in the standard.

Because this 105 meters distance is very rarely reached and most people use network cables in offices or locations where distance between devices doesn't go over 20-30 meters, some clever guy thought of using aluminum strands plated with copper, because aluminum is cheaper... so the percentage of copper in network cable is much smaller, cable is cheaper, but the resistance of the cable is higher than the one in the standard. These cables are called CCA , Copper Cladded Aluminum.. and they work great for small distances.

However, recently other "clever guys" that make network equipment figured the same thing and said hey, let's "invent" power saving features, a green mode for the network card, where the card will gradually lower the transmission power as long as no transmission errors are detected, to save power and to add another marketing point on the network card's chip feature list.

In time, the quality of the network chips has improved quite a lot, the algorithms to detect signal, amplify and decode signal have improved a lot, so even with reduced power transmission at the other end, the chip receiving the data is smart enough and powerful enough to receive the data and auto correct whatever bits are hard to read due to low power transmission, so modern chips can work well even at distances as high as 105 meters with proper network cable.

However, when you have two chips talking to each other at low power (green mode active on both) and you also add a CCA cable that has added resistance, everything gets screwy at long distances (let's say if you use cables over 20-30 meters long). Disabling the power saving features from the network card's driver setting solves the problem.

So just use quality Cat5e network cable (doesn't have to be Cat6 or Cat6a, you only need these if you think you'll use 10gbps router/switch at some point in the future)


Another thing that's worth keeping in mind is congestion.. let's say the ISP gives internet through a 100 mbps network cable but let's say you're in an apartment building with 20 apartments. Well, those 20+ apartment cables go into a network switch somewhere in the building and that switch probably has only 1gbps port at the output - those 20 apartments share a 1gbps link to the ISP, so if all people would use their internet connection, each person would only get a maximum of 50 mbps because the output to the ISP literally can not do more than 1gbps in total.
Luckily, having 20 people use their internet connections to the max happens extremely rarely, almost never.
BUT, those fiber cables going from each apartment buildings are also going somewhere... for example you may have 6-8 apartment buildings each with a 1gbps fiber cable and these go somewhere to a sort of switch that converts those to a single 2.5gbps+ connection or maybe several 1gbps fiber pairs in a larger fiber cable...

Basically the idea is that between you and the ISP there can be multiple choke points, where there's potential in some situations to appear limitations unrelated to how good your home connection is.

[ant3202]

Re: Trippling internet speed with pare of AA batteries, ethernet cable and electric t

nah.. .speed actually have many factors...
your cable modem... the cable use to connect, e.g. rg6 ... splitter, and misc

so either if cable modem too old / bad or cheap coaxial cable.... many issues... / so as cable taps / splitters.

here we have and use belden cables, as recommended by the cable installer ... splitters

provided by cable operator here is regal or APH (Singapore).

Good LAN cables, maybe can get AMP / Pandult / 3M, consider Cat 6 cabling for long run

[eccerr0r]

Re: Trippling internet speed with pare of AA batteries, ethernet cable and electric t

fsck google/youtube suggesting more of that idiot's videos... <clear cookies> aaah better.

[jiroy]

Re: Trippling internet speed with pare of AA batteries, ethernet cable and electric t

I don't think this formula has any reasonable basis , but it could be a reversed trick used by those guys , as inspired from some true international standards , and then play on it and fantasize .

Here , i remember when we used to implement huge servers in a complex , a Hotel , or banks , a cable going from main server has an international length limit of 110 m precisely . After that , it's rejected . Of course , the formula here does apply and resistance is surely one expected parameter .

I remember also , that one time , i had to rise the Ethernet outlet 2.50 m on a wall , and let the cable inlet do the difference , to fall into the acceptable range .

But what i know for sure , when i was sharing Ethernet with friends , the stronger computer usually makes the difference , leaving others complaining and nagging ...

[eccerr0r]

Re: Trippling internet speed with pare of AA batteries, ethernet cable and electric t

/facepalm

[R_J]

Re: Trippling internet speed with pare of AA batteries, ethernet cable and electric t

Budm that link was old, Theo Joe was only doubling the speed, here he Triples it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRmMkiTB_uE Can't wait for the next one when he quadruples it.
I wonder if he actually believes his own bull shit? I would like to see the video where someone tied the cables around his neck and shoved the batteries up his ass, that should get some youtube time

[budm]

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"So you can reduce the resistance in your Ethernet wire and amplify the signals going through it using "magnetic induction". Which means if a magnetic field passe through a wire it will create a current and batteries have low internal resistance and are good for both creating and inducing a current. So this is what I heard and it says it can triple your internet speed." I sure like to really know who comes up with that explanation.
If you want a good laugh, this one takes the cake!
"It's important to use electrical tape , because it conducts electricity"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRmMkiTB_uE
I just love reading the comments section.

[retiredcaps]

Re: Trippling internet speed with pare of AA batteries, ethernet cable and electric t

I always wonder how much money you can really get from YouTube.

Going off topic, but $12 million USD (2015 figures/estimates) according to

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/youtubes-mi...ot-12m-1524384

ublock origin is my favourite add-on. Open source and written by a Canadian.

https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock

[budm]

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I always wonder how much money you can really get from YouTube.