Trippling internet speed with pare of AA batteries, ethernet cable and electric tape.

[EasyGoing1]

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IPv4 has 4.2 billion possible public addresses .. according to this site

https://hostingfacts.com/internet-facts-stats-2016/

There are 3.2 billion people on the internet in some form (which is more than I thought honestly) ... but there is no reason we should not be able to have a 100 to 1 ratio on public ip addresses ...

Obviously the way things were established from the get go ... maintaining that level of service means “yup ... addresses are running out and we need more” because people buy internet service (like corporations) and they want those addresses whether they use them or not ...

And to be honest with you, the only reason I dont like v6 is because Im a network administrator and I have to type those damn addresses in all the time ... you see my beef now?? lol

[EasyGoing1]

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That comment made curious, i just talked to a Comcast and an AT&T engineer i know. They both said bullshit. AT&T mobility is operating an ISP NAT to reduce the number of IPv4 addresses they are using because they are short, and Comcast is pushing IPv6 hard, but nowhere near releasing back into the pool.

Well then I guess thats gospel on the issue ... two of the most heavily used ISPs on the planet having address issues .. hmmm. ....

Its not those guys is the non-ISP related companies who have the majority of the addresses... SEARS and Roebuck for example ... I guarantee you they aren't using 1/10th of the addresses they have assigned to them ... or Walmart ... or pick any other company besides an ISP who has to actually re-assign IP addresses and will naturally be struggling because everyone else has all the damn addresses... My solution would give a hell of a lot more addresses back into the hands of the ISPs who actually need them.

Think about it ... the number of NON-Internet service related companies FAR outnumbers the internet service companies ... and yes, they can apply for and get IP addresses straight from the source just like the ISPs do ... there is a shit ton of waste going on trust me.

[goontron]

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Notice I said we could give BACK more than half of whats been assigned.

Saying that the registrars have run out is like saying that the dentist office ran out of lollipops ... doesn’t mean that those lollipops are gone ... some ended up under someones car seat ... some in some kids toy box ... others ended up in the trash...

My point is that people are not USING the addresses they were assigned and we could easily force the issue and probably revoke more than half of whats been assigned. Im not sure how long it would take to scan the entire address space, but some hard data could be collected (with known margins of error due to firewalls appearing dark etc.) ....

That comment made curious, i just talked to a Comcast and an AT&T engineer i know. They both said bullshit. AT&T mobility is operating an ISP NAT to reduce the number of IPv4 addresses they are using because they are short, and Comcast is pushing IPv6 hard, but nowhere near releasing back into the pool.

[EasyGoing1]

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The US registrars ran out of IPv4 addresses almost two years ago.

Notice I said we could give BACK more than half of whats been assigned.

Saying that the registrars have run out is like saying that the dentist office ran out of lollipops ... doesn't mean that those lollipops are gone ... some ended up under someones car seat ... some in some kids toy box ... others ended up in the trash...

My point is that people are not USING the addresses they were assigned and we could easily force the issue and probably revoke more than half of whats been assigned. Im not sure how long it would take to scan the entire address space, but some hard data could be collected (with known margins of error due to firewalls appearing dark etc.) ....

In my opinion, the “solution” chosen to solve the “problem” was akin to full time legislators sitting around and find new laws to make so that they look busy. There were better solutions ... and edge hardware has gotten exceedingly good at NAT implementations ... even the old barriers that existed in NAT have been all but wiped out. Hell, updates in DNS have helped too so that there more unique ways to address different pieces of hardware at the same ip address ... I'm just saying its not necessary but it would require them to man the hell up and take a leadership stance on it and get some of those address blocks that aren't being used and never will be ... back ... for re-distribution.

Worldwide the adoption currently sits at 15%
Notably in countries with big populations the adoption is much higher:
In the US and Germany the adoption is at 30% in India it's at 22% and in Japan at 17%
https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html

Finally the IPv6 space is 340 trillion, trillion, trillion addresses long.
So your math is off by a factor of say a few dozens orders of magnitude!

I'll bet every single one of them are also still running V4 ... and they wont stop either ... see the problem here?

Now if you wanna tell me that pretty soon, no new networks will be able to get a V4 address block because ICANNA wont issue them anymore ... well then yeah ... they would at that point be forcing the change by being dicks about it. lol

[Per Hansson]

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Thats a loooong eventually since we technically can give up probably half or more of what we have assigned right now... and I hate IPv6 ... it was a shot gun solution to a problem that had alternatives that they never considered... and they seriously jumped the gun and the project was panic driven and its a convoluted mess! And it was supposed to be the only protocol we use before this year ... that was the prediction ... and yet people only use it in conjunction with ipv4 under the guise of being ready for the master switch to be thrown ... but that will NEVER happen. I mean maybe in an isolated country here or there for some lame reason ... but globally? NO WAY! Not in this lifetime. People are afraid to have public IP addresses so they want less and less of them, not more ... and yet IPV6 has so much address space available ... it would take something like 10 times our population with everyone having like 20 of their own unique addresses before the entire addressing space will ever be consumed... OVERKILL MUCH????

The US registrars ran out of IPv4 addresses almost two years ago.
Several other areas, notably in Asia ran out much earlier than that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv4_address_exhaustion

IPv6 was launched 5 years ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_...Pv6_Launch_Day

Worldwide the adoption currently sits at 15%
Notably in countries with big populations the adoption is much higher:
In the US and Germany the adoption is at 30% in India it's at 22% and in Japan at 17%
https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html

Finally the IPv6 space is 340 trillion, trillion, trillion addresses long.
So your math is off by a factor of say a few dozens orders of magnitude!

[goontron]

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If you find a WIFI network running on channel 14 in the middle of southeast Wyoming i am not far!

[EasyGoing1]

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I do software development. There's a personal project I've been developing for a very long time (I've lacked the time or the skills to finish)...

I'm curious ... every time I've written something in Java and used the network ... for example, downloading files from an http server, accessing a SQL server etc. ... I've never had to worry about which version of IP I'm using, as the libraries take care of that for me ... I believe it just uses the operating systems layer 6 (I Think) access to the lower layers of OSI ... so what I'm getting at is, wont the OS handle it for the code you're writing?

Eventually, we will run out of IPv4 addresses.

Thats a loooong eventually since we technically can give up probably half or more of what we have assigned right now... and I hate IPv6 ... it was a shot gun solution to a problem that had alternatives that they never considered... and they seriously jumped the gun and the project was panic driven and its a convoluted mess! And it was supposed to be the only protocol we use before this year ... that was the prediction ... and yet people only use it in conjunction with ipv4 under the guise of being ready for the master switch to be thrown ... but that will NEVER happen. I mean maybe in an isolated country here or there for some lame reason ... but globally? NO WAY! Not in this lifetime. People are afraid to have public IP addresses so they want less and less of them, not more ... and yet IPV6 has so much address space available ... it would take something like 10 times our population with everyone having like 20 of their own unique addresses before the entire addressing space will ever be consumed... OVERKILL MUCH????

It is FAR more likely that we will go away from TCP/IP to some new more effecient protocol before we fully switch to v6... tcp/ip is a dense protocol and it has a lot of overhead ... UDP is far better... but what we need is some genius to write the killer protocol that will speed everyone up by like 50% and win us over that way...

I'm sure it's not as many as some of the other bigger companies (ie, Spectrum, Dish, Direct, etc) provide. Everything's over fiber though, so one point of failure...

Actually, thats not NECESSARILY true, NOR is it true only for fiber. Any communication network that has no backup links is a network with a single point of failure. The problem with having backup links, is two fold ... material and real estate. Say for example the provider has a hub that serves 10 city blocks centrally located ... now to make that hub redundant, they would need to double the hardware and have a physical path for a second pull of a all the cabling (fiber copper whatever) ... and then you gotta ask yourself ... what am I being redundant for? In case the building gets hit by a train? Or if the electricity goes out ... what disaster am I trying to remain in service over? And it really comes down to the reality that the only way to be really dynamic and amazingly redundant would be to have each home have a link to two different COs in the city so if one goes out, the other picks up in its place ... but thats essentially double the cost of infrastructure for the service provider, so most of them live with the small percentage of risk in possible down time ... and realistically, I've never seen down time for more than two days and in that situation, a truck nailed an above ground fiber distribution hub and knocked it like 30 feet into the desert ... that thing had at least two thousand connections in it ... yet service was back up in less than two days ... I think thats pretty impressive and definitely makes the cost of real redundancy seem way too high...

The major benefit of fiber is that information can traverse the same distance as copper, but millions of times faster than copper. 15 years ago, we had the technology to simultaneously carry something like a million simultaneous phone calls ON TWO STRANDS OF FIBER! Cant imagine whats out there today... I've seen fiber houses that had fiber optic buffers between the equipment and the fiber in the dirt that went who knows were, and the buffers, which consisted of like 15 feet of fiber looped up inside a box - would have to be changed out every three months because the laser that was driving the fiber was so strong, it would break down the glass in the cable so they had to have that buffer and make it easily replaceable ... every three months ... lol

The other benefits of fiber ... not susceptible to magnetic interference... lightening ... weather balloons ... northern lights whatever ... your data isn't going to be jumbled up over a few magnetic waves.

Remember making long distance phone calls back in the day? And you made them after 5pm if you wanted to save money ... but remember how horrible sometimes the connections were and all the static in the conversation to where sometimes you'd have to hang up and try again to see if you get a better connection??? That is a thing of the past thanks to fiber and its resilience against electro-magnetic interference.

I know almost absolutely nothing about tunneling, so I do appreciate the insight. I have a VPS (Virtual Private Server) that I rent from Linode. It has an IPv4 address and an IPv6 address.

Sounds like a paid VPN service whos primary goal is to mask your ip address so you can do whatever without being traced ... yes you do connect to their servers over a tunnel ... but being able to do what you want to do through their service - although technically possible ... may not be an option for you depending on their flexibility.

would I be able to setup a tunnel to connect to my Linode server via IPv6 only?

Hell, I'd be willing to set you up with a tunnel to my MacPro ... if you need a specific server I could install it in a virtual machine for you... the issue you're going to run into trying to do with with a service provider is the fact that you need something sitting on the other side of the tunnel with v6 addressing etc...

Just had a thought ... have you considered using a virtual environment to do this in? You can use VMWare or Parallels and you can install multiple virtual workstations or servers and create a completely isolated and virtualized network for those virtual machines ... that would actually be the option that gives you the most control and flexibility.

I remember the days of the dialup modem, but I was a bit older when I got into them (near the end). My first modem was a 14.4Kbps <snip>. I couldn't imagine a 300 baud!!!!

Compuserve was ... “interesting” at 300 baud ... a modem I paid $250 for by the way ...

I do remember downloading a schematic from compuserve of an audio hack someone made for the Commodore 128, which only had three “voices” of MONO audio ... well, with this hack, which required a second SID chip and some other electronics installed on the board, you could have true stereo sound and basically go from black and white to color ... (audibly speaking)

So I downloaded the schematic, then I bought the components that were listed, I took apart my Commodore 128 and installed all the components per the schematic which was an ASCII graphic! It worked! LOL

I was only 16 years old at the time.

I always wanted the source but he wouldn't give or sell it to me (even now, all these years later!!!!).

Interesting story about the BBS code. Unfortunate he would not release it, I wonder why he was hanging onto it. How did that benefit him?

I was under the impression that even modern programming languages can do Branching such as the go to statement. For example, I believe in Java all you have to do is create a label, something like :myLabel then you simply use the goto statement two branch to that label.

What language do you primarily code in? Ive probably got 20 different Java projects that I never finished in my IntelliJ folder ... but sometimes its not about the finished product.

Today I have almost completed building my own Lithium Ion battery charger with an Arduino ... a project that Ive been wanting to do for a long time ... and not because I need a cheap charger ... but because I want to understand the physics behind recharging certain batteries and I want to add features to the charger that no other charger has nor ever will have ... but today was a milestone as I successfully used a digital potentiometer as the adjustment resistor for an LM317 regulator then fed that through a current sensor to a battery ... and im almost done with the code that will step up the voltage of the 317 via the digital pot, and monitor the current going to the battery so that it can mimic a constant current power supply which changes to constant voltage at the end of the charge until the current drops to almost nothing...

Its been a fun project and a long time coming! lol

[Spork Schivago]

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...OK, I'm curious ... why do you NEED IPv6??

I'm not aware of any services connected directly to the Internet that ONLY use v6 ... in fact, it's my opinion that v6 was a panic response to a "problem" that NATing fixed quite nicely. They were convinced that by now, we'd run out of v4 addresses, but someone forgot to include the whole NAT thing and how that would ease the need for addresses ... by A LOT since you can literally have thousands of computers behind ONE address using NAT ... but I digress...

I do software development. There's a personal project I've been developing for a very long time (I've lacked the time or the skills to finish). Anyway, it uses IPv4 and IPv6. I need it for successfully testing the IPv6. Also, cPanel wants me to write a plugin for their cPanel software, but to test successfully, again, I need IPv6. Just to make sure it works with IPv6 and IPv4.

Eventually, we will run out of IPv4 addresses. Personally, I think it's good we're switching to IPv6. There's some sites I guess that are only IPv6. I think last estimate I saw was something like half the internet can be connected to with just IPv6, but most servers have IPv4 and IPv6 addresses.

$265 for gigabit Internet would be amazing to me ... but $120 for 100 meg seems high to me - but every area is different. I'm kinda rural ... sort of ... we pay like $65 for 80 megabit out here (10 up)....

Keep in mind, 120$ isn't just internet. That's internet, telephone (all of the 50 states plus the district of Columbia or something like that), and television. So, when you add all of them together, it's not that bad. Not sure how the TV is though or how many channels come with it. I'm sure it's not as many as some of the other bigger companies (ie, Spectrum, Dish, Direct, etc) provide. Everything's over fiber though, so one point of failure...

I've set up somewhere around 300 tunnels in my day I guess ... I've even set up some meshed tunnels and some with failover etc.

In order to know what kinda tunnel you need and the right way to set it up, I'd have to know a few things like is this something that goes from your home to your work? And if so, does the network admin have a pre-established way of tunneling in? Can you use hardware as a termination point, or do you have to use a software VPN client (like the one built into Windows)...

And based on the fact that you can use a tunnel to solve your IPv6 problem, I'm going to say that the use of v6 is more likely something that is internal to your company and not required on the Internet directly ... since in this case, your tunnel would be end to end terminated with IPv4 addresses then your IPv6 addressing would simply happen through the tunnel... kind of confusing I know but once the tunnel is established, and your computer starts sending traffic through the tunnel, the IP addresses that actually create the tunnel are "invisible" to your computer once the tunnel is up and working ... so it could very much use IPv6 address through a tunnel that is terminated with IPv4 addresses ...

I know almost absolutely nothing about tunneling, so I do appreciate the insight. I have a VPS (Virtual Private Server) that I rent from Linode. It has an IPv4 address and an IPv6 address. I don't have physical access to the server. At my house, if I switch to Empire Access (which currently only provides IPv4 addresses), would I be able to setup a tunnel to connect to my Linode server via IPv6 only? I mean I would need it so when I test my programs, it's only through IPv6 and doesn't fall back on IPv4. Would that be possible and if so, how would I go about setting something like that up? Right now, our IPv6 is broken again with Spectrum, so I think I could try to test this tunnel out and if I can get it working, then we can switch to Empire Access.

Fiber to the home ... believe it or not ... was something I fantasized about when I was only 13 years old back in the early 1980's .. while I was using my 300 baud modem which was 300 BITS per second yielding roughly 37 BYTES per second ... compare that to a 56k modem which is about 7 thousand BYTES per second ... a technology that happened like 13 years later .. and today, we have MEGABITS per second which is literally MILLIONS of BITS per second, or 120 thousand-ish BYTES per second (per each megabit) ... so a 100 megabit connection can pass roughly 12 MILLION BYTES per second ... compare that to my measly 37 bytes per second when I was 13 years old ... tech sure has advanced at an exponential rate, thats for sure...

Anyways ... fiber to the house is a good thing!

I remember the days of the dialup modem, but I was a bit older when I got into them (near the end). My first modem was a 14.4Kbps modem that I paid 100$ for. A Haynes compatible. I used to run a BBS and a person who I chatted with (only through the computer, never in real life) connected and downloaded Doom. It took something like 3 days! He only had a 2400 baud modem. I couldn't imagine a 300 baud!!!!

Anyway, the software I've worked on since I was really young is a BBS program. It was called JetBBS. The "developer" released the code as freeware, but never released the source code. I think I know why. Pretty sure he didn't write it from scratch. Just modified the source from another BBS and sold it for money, but I could be very wrong on this. He was a teenager from Seattle and when JetBBS spread to NY (my state), I was the first to buy a legal copy. They mailed it to me but they actually called me asking all kinds of questions and said they couldn't believe how fast it spread and wanted to know how I heard about it and all that. After that, they never released another version. They just abandoned it. But around that time, BBSes were dying out anyways, so who really knows.

I always wanted the source but he wouldn't give or sell it to me (even now, all these years later!!!!). I decided to just try and write an open source clone (although there'd more than likely be no use whatsoever for it). The hard part is the MNU scripting language. I'd need to write an interpreter but it's not a simple one. The scripting languages has GOTO statements. Those are a bit harder to implement. Only way I can think of is reading the MNU files twice. Try to find the labels and the GOTOs, store them in some sort of array, and then go through a second time and process the code.

[EasyGoing1]

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They made the bill 170$ a month after I said that.

Amazing how they can sharpen their pencils if you know the magic words ... huh?

But we're going to switch to this new (at least to this area) fiber company called Empire Access. They buy their fiber optics directly from Corning, Inc (I live in Corning, so this is good in my opinion). But right now, they don't offer IPv6, something I need. They have plans to support it, but eh.

OK, I'm curious ... why do you NEED IPv6??

I'm not aware of any services connected directly to the Internet that ONLY use v6 ... in fact, it's my opinion that v6 was a panic response to a "problem" that NATing fixed quite nicely. They were convinced that by now, we'd run out of v4 addresses, but someone forgot to include the whole NAT thing and how that would ease the need for addresses ... by A LOT since you can literally have thousands of computers behind ONE address using NAT ... but I digress...

65$ a month for the first 6 months, then 120$. That's for 100Mbps down, 20Mbps up, telephone (all the US), and television. We can go for 1,000Mbps down, which is something like 265$ a month (total). That's real good I think.

$265 for gigabit Internet would be amazing to me ... but $120 for 100 meg seems high to me - but every area is different. I'm kinda rural ... sort of ... we pay like $65 for 80 megabit out here (10 up).

I am so tempted to switch anyways, with just the IPv4, and then maybe try setting up one of those tunnels, but I've never done that before and not sure if it's possible or how I'd go about doing it.

I've set up somewhere around 300 tunnels in my day I guess ... I've even set up some meshed tunnels and some with failover etc.

In order to know what kinda tunnel you need and the right way to set it up, I'd have to know a few things like is this something that goes from your home to your work? And if so, does the network admin have a pre-established way of tunneling in? Can you use hardware as a termination point, or do you have to use a software VPN client (like the one built into Windows)...

And based on the fact that you can use a tunnel to solve your IPv6 problem, I'm going to say that the use of v6 is more likely something that is internal to your company and not required on the Internet directly ... since in this case, your tunnel would be end to end terminated with IPv4 addresses then your IPv6 addressing would simply happen through the tunnel... kind of confusing I know but once the tunnel is established, and your computer starts sending traffic through the tunnel, the IP addresses that actually create the tunnel are "invisible" to your computer once the tunnel is up and working ... so it could very much use IPv6 address through a tunnel that is terminated with IPv4 addresses ...

People that have switched to Empire have given them great reviews, at least the ones I've talked to. There's always a 6 month or 1 year contract, depending on what you get, to pay for the cost of installation. They'll run the fiber directly to your house I guess. I've seen them do a couple houses on this block already.

Fiber to the home ... believe it or not ... was something I fantasized about when I was only 13 years old back in the early 1980's .. while I was using my 300 baud modem which was 300 BITS per second yielding roughly 37 BYTES per second ... compare that to a 56k modem which is about 7 thousand BYTES per second ... a technology that happened like 13 years later .. and today, we have MEGABITS per second which is literally MILLIONS of BITS per second, or 120 thousand-ish BYTES per second (per each megabit) ... so a 100 megabit connection can pass roughly 12 MILLION BYTES per second ... compare that to my measly 37 bytes per second when I was 13 years old ... tech sure has advanced at an exponential rate, thats for sure...

Anyways ... fiber to the house is a good thing!

[Seagorman]

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That Theo Joe guy on Youtube is a tit

[Spork Schivago]

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Does this apply to Spectrum in Wyoming too?

Goontron,

I'm not sure about any other state than NY. But you should google it and see. Something like Spectrum class action lawsuit internet speed

And see if you see anything about your state. From the limited dealings I've had with them so far (they just bought TWC not too long ago), they seem to be a nightmare! Just crazy expensive and not a great company.

Every time I need to use IPv6, I have to call the company and have them reflash my router. The NVRAM becomes corrupt or something. They won't send someone out to replace it. They said I have to bring it into the local office to get it switched out, which is ridiculous! Why? We don't have a local office. I have to drive all the way down to Elmira (or maybe Horseheads) to get it replaced!

[Spork Schivago]

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Of all the ISPs I've dealt with, INCLUDING the mom and pop shops, Spectrum has been the most incompetent company to date....

We had Time Warner Cable until Spectrum bought them out just recently. TWC wasn't that bad. You could work with them with the price and everything, but Spectrum is just awful!!!!

We bought a house, my wife handled transferring the service. Spectrum had already bought TWC at that time. They talked her into this whole home DVR thing, but instead of transferring the account, she had to cancel the old and setup a new one. I didn't realize she was doing the whole home. I tried it before and hated it. When she got it here, she hated it. We called and had them switch it over to just two normal DVRs instead of the whole home ones. Anyway, the bill comes and it's 800$!!! They said we broke the promotion by switching!!!!

When we called to switch though, the lady said it'd break the promotion and told me how much it'd cost. I said we'd like to cancel the service then. Then she said oh wait, we can do it, it'd be 170$ a month. Don't leave yet! And we went through, but the bill came and it was 800$!!!!! I called and said we were going to call the Attorney General (my aunt knows him). They made the bill 170$ a month after I said that.

But we're going to switch to this new (at least to this area) fiber company called Empire Access. They buy their fiber optics directly from Corning, Inc (I live in Corning, so this is good in my opinion). But right now, they don't offer IPv6, something I need. They have plans to support it, but eh.

65$ a month for the first 6 months, then 120$. That's for 100Mbps down, 20Mbps up, telephone (all the US), and television. We can go for 1,000Mbps down, which is something like 265$ a month (total). That's real good I think.

I am so tempted to switch anyways, with just the IPv4, and then maybe try setting up one of those tunnels, but I've never done that before and not sure if it's possible or how I'd go about doing it. I'd have to do some research. People that have switched to Empire have given them great reviews, at least the ones I've talked to. There's always a 6 month or 1 year contract, depending on what you get, to pay for the cost of installation. They'll run the fiber directly to your house I guess. I've seen them do a couple houses on this block already.

[goontron]

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This post of yours reminds me of a recent news article. Point 1 might be invalid! Here, in my state, it seems a lot of ISPs are charging more money for faster speeds but cannot provide what they promise! For example, when I called Spectrum to try and get our "package" changed a bit, they said we had 50 Mbps internet speed. I said it was 30 Mbps. They said it's 50 Mbps. Shortly after, I see in the local news paper how Spectrum's being sued for not being able to provide the speeds they advertise. It's a class action lawsuit.

From the article, it seems this is common in some areas. Companies offer newer, faster speeds, but don't actually upgrade their hardware and cannot provide the speeds they claim they can provide.

Does this apply to Spectrum in Wyoming too?

[EasyGoing1]

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Maybe it was just Spectrum not being able to provide. I think the syracuse.com one was the one I read originally and just misremembered it.

Of all the ISPs I've dealt with, INCLUDING the mom and pop shops, Spectrum has been the most incompetent company to date.

I think fiber technology threw them a curve ball and they have been playing catch-up ever since Verizon started their hard core FIOS push - which there is no way Verizon has begun to see a return on their investment for all the fiber they planted in the ground throughout the nation ... those guys laid a lot ... and I mean A LOT of glass in a very short period of time. And that fact kind of explains why they have been selling off their FIOS division because it's about the time where their share holders are going to want to see a return on the investment and they probably have to sell off the areas that have barely broken even. I would have thought that they would have made this a 20 year plan but who knows.

I do know that the Verizon built FIOS network and the accompanying services they offer, is the closest thing I have ever seen to heaven where Internet service is concerned. They truly understood what you can do over fiber, and they definitely maximized its use and offered services to their customers that utilizes back end technology that most people dont even know exists ... so from that perspective, my hat is off to them for sure.

Spectrum on the other hand ... it's like grandpa owns this company and he doesnt want to be bothered with all this new fangled technology stuff so he just has his 12 year old grandson deal with it for him because he seems to understand it well enough ... and the results of that? Well ... you tell me

And yeah, the first time that double / triple internet speed thing went around years ago, I got calls from a couple people who were thinking of trying it! I think maybe it was meant as a joke or something but people took it serious? Pretty insane, huh?

I saw the videos for it ... and the dude that was in the videos sure as hell seemed believable in terms of his vocal tone, body language and sheer confidence in what he was saying... it was obvious to me that he actually has zero understanding of electronics, simple electrical physics etc. because if he had even a little knowledge of those things, there is no way he could have made those videos with a straight face.

But in terms of coming out with a video that has (I think) over 2 million views ... and has actually convinced people to do the equivalent of putting a paper towel on their apple so that the next day it will taste sweeter ... or tape feathers to their car so it will fly ... this guy gets the award for that ... I guess you could call that category "duping the people" ...

I mean seriously ... taping batteries to a cable so that the electrons go faster?

UNBELIEVABLE!

[televizora]

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Fourfold will be the increase in speed, made by me. Just ask me and by the power of my mind I will make all the transfers four times faster.

[Spork Schivago]

Re: Trippling internet speed with pare of AA batteries, ethernet cable and electric t

Not sure what area you're in, but I can assure you ... your situation with Spectrum is not something that can and should be accepted as the default for all ISPs.

If they are in fact not providing the speeds they say they are, then surely a court will find them liable for some form of false advertising. And someone at Spectrum is probably playing games by saying things like internet speeds are completely non-linear and also highly dependent on the server you are accessing over the Internet, which is 100% true. However, they should be able to point their customers to a Spectrum managed server which will provide accurate speed results to the client using a TCP/IP method of streaming packets under controlled conditions so that they can prove that the client does in fact have that bandwidth available at their home or place of business. If the legal action has gone "class action" status, then someone has already done their homework and determined that they had a valid case or that would not be happening.

My point in all of what I was saying is that simply taping some batteries to your ethernet cable and expecting packets to flow faster over the Internet is quite literally as absurd as saying that if you take two feathers and tape them to the handles of your car door, your car will now fly like an airplane ... thats about how ridiculous the assertion is concerning taping batteries to an ethernet cable, and if not for the fact that I understand how much people don't understand the technology, I would be mortally horrified to see such a video on youtube presented as fact as it is ... but people will believe anything they don't understand if its designed to sound convincing enough and the viewer is completely ignorant on the issue.

Mike

Here's one article on Spectrum not being able to deliver.

http://nymag.com/selectall/2017/02/t...net-speed.html

I'm in NY State. It was my understanding (cannot find the article now though), that Spectrum isn't the only company having problems. Multiple companies offer speeds they just cannot provide, for various reasons.

Here's a not so long summary of it: http://www.syracuse.com/business-new...ag_says_1.html

Maybe it was just Spectrum not being able to provide. I think the syracuse.com one was the one I read originally and just misremembered it.

And yeah, the first time that double / triple internet speed thing went around years ago, I got calls from a couple people who were thinking of trying it! I think maybe it was meant as a joke or something but people took it serious? Pretty insane, huh?

[EasyGoing1]

Re: Trippling internet speed with pare of AA batteries, ethernet cable and electric t

Developing "street smarts" is not something everyone can do. I know at least one family/friends that will almost certainly fall for the latest sales pitch and spend more money than necessary to get the job done.

I am quite literally amazed at how many people still forward those spams that say if you forward it you're going to get money from bill gates ... or whatever billionair they use in that chain letter .. now they're printing at the top of these letters (no really, its true because it was on the news for three days straight) ...

*SMH*

I always ask the sender ... "so ... when did you see it on the news ... or who else told you about it being on the news ... oh ... you didnt see it? and no one told you about it other than this letter? thats odd ... maybe because it NEVER FRIGGIN HAPPENED??? Ever consider that???"

Im telling you im amazed were still around as a species ...

Common sense ... not so common it seems ...

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Re: Trippling internet speed with pare of AA batteries, ethernet cable and electric t

but people will believe anything they don't understand if its designed to sound convincing enough and the viewer is completely ignorant on the issue.

Developing "street smarts" is not something everyone can do. I know at least one family/friends that will almost certainly fall for the latest sales pitch and spend more money than necessary to get the job done.

[EasyGoing1]

Re: Trippling internet speed with pare of AA batteries, ethernet cable and electric t

From the article, it seems this is common in some areas. Companies offer newer, faster speeds, but don't actually upgrade their hardware and cannot provide the speeds they claim they can provide.

Not sure what area you're in, but I can assure you ... your situation with Spectrum is not something that can and should be accepted as the default for all ISPs.

If they are in fact not providing the speeds they say they are, then surely a court will find them liable for some form of false advertising. And someone at Spectrum is probably playing games by saying things like internet speeds are completely non-linear and also highly dependent on the server you are accessing over the Internet, which is 100% true. However, they should be able to point their customers to a Spectrum managed server which will provide accurate speed results to the client using a TCP/IP method of streaming packets under controlled conditions so that they can prove that the client does in fact have that bandwidth available at their home or place of business. If the legal action has gone "class action" status, then someone has already done their homework and determined that they had a valid case or that would not be happening.

My point in all of what I was saying is that simply taping some batteries to your ethernet cable and expecting packets to flow faster over the Internet is quite literally as absurd as saying that if you take two feathers and tape them to the handles of your car door, your car will now fly like an airplane ... thats about how ridiculous the assertion is concerning taping batteries to an ethernet cable, and if not for the fact that I understand how much people don't understand the technology, I would be mortally horrified to see such a video on youtube presented as fact as it is ... but people will believe anything they don't understand if its designed to sound convincing enough and the viewer is completely ignorant on the issue.

Mike

[Spork Schivago]

Re: Trippling internet speed with pare of AA batteries, ethernet cable and electric t

I saw that video on Youtube as well .. its complete bullshit!

The ONLY way you can increase speed from your ISP and still keep your service running on a single public IP address, is to:

1) Pay more money for faster service
2) If they have maxed your capacity, then you'll need an ISP that will channel bond multiple services (ie you buy TWO internet connections from them) into a single PVC.

Option 2 requires some pretty complex routing, some networking skills on your part ... and a very flexible ISP. A combination that I think is fair to say the majority of people don't have available to them.

This post of yours reminds me of a recent news article. Point 1 might be invalid! Here, in my state, it seems a lot of ISPs are charging more money for faster speeds but cannot provide what they promise! For example, when I called Spectrum to try and get our "package" changed a bit, they said we had 50 Mbps internet speed. I said it was 30 Mbps. They said it's 50 Mbps. Shortly after, I see in the local news paper how Spectrum's being sued for not being able to provide the speeds they advertise. It's a class action lawsuit.

From the article, it seems this is common in some areas. Companies offer newer, faster speeds, but don't actually upgrade their hardware and cannot provide the speeds they claim they can provide.