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  • DTLMG
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    • Nov 2011
    • 37

    #1

    How do i complete circut on CCFL test lamp

    I built a CCFL tester from a computer mod kit. I can only get my lights i want to test to light half way. I am assuming this is because I have not completed the circut. What/how can i complete the circut? What am I supposed to do with the small black/white wires? Can i put a jumper in them?

    I have the desire to relamp a monitor, but need to understand how it works a little bit better before i tackle the job.

    Thanks.. This is a great forum!
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  • PlainBill
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2009
    • 7034
    • USA

    #2
    Re: How do i complete circut on CCFL test lamp

    Originally posted by DTLMG
    I built a CCFL tester from a computer mod kit. I can only get my lights i want to test to light half way. I am assuming this is because I have not completed the circut. What/how can i complete the circut? What am I supposed to do with the small black/white wires? Can i put a jumper in them?

    I have the desire to relamp a monitor, but need to understand how it works a little bit better before i tackle the job.

    Thanks.. This is a great forum!
    This is common. The mod kit doesn't have a high enough output voltage / current to light the lamps to their full length.

    PlainBill
    For a number of reasons, both health and personal, I will no longer be active on this board. Any PMs asking for assistance will be ignored.

    Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the ark. Professionals built the Titanic.

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    • DTLMG
      Member
      • Nov 2011
      • 37

      #3
      Re: How do i complete circut on CCFL test lamp

      BUT..where do i plug the small black and white wires into?

      Thanks
      Last edited by DTLMG; 12-05-2011, 03:27 PM.

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      • lti
        Badcaps Legend
        • May 2011
        • 2547
        • United States

        #4
        Re: How do i complete circut on CCFL test lamp

        There appear to be two lamps. The other connector is connected to the second lamp.

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        • DTLMG
          Member
          • Nov 2011
          • 37

          #5
          Re: How do i complete circut on CCFL test lamp

          Originally posted by lti
          There appear to be two lamps. The other connector is connected to the second lamp.
          The two large wires PINK and BLUE are connected to one end of the tubes and the smaller wires black/gray are connected to the other ends.

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          • jayoung
            Senior Member
            • May 2011
            • 172

            #6
            Re: How do i complete circut on CCFL test lamp

            Am I seeing the picture right in that you connected one end of each bulb to the tester instead of connecting both ends from one bulb? It appears that you have the heavy wires (one from each bulb) attached in one connector. Usually both ends of a single bulb are in a single connector.

            Or I may be missing something in the way the tester is set up.

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            • PlainBill
              Badcaps Legend
              • Feb 2009
              • 7034
              • USA

              #7
              Re: How do i complete circut on CCFL test lamp

              The set of CCFLs you have have an unusual wiring pattern; I missed it before. I've seen this on a few monitors. The usual way is the high voltage and return ends of each tube are connected to the same connector; each connector handles a single tube. Note teh schematic I have attached.

              The tubes you are testing have the high voltage end of each tube connected to one connector, the return ends are connected to the other connector. You could try shorting the contacts of the connector on the end of the white and black wires together, but I think you are going to have to make an adapter so the source and return lines from a tube is connected to a single connector on the tester.

              PlainBill
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              Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the ark. Professionals built the Titanic.

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              • alexanna
                Member
                • Mar 2010
                • 1346

                #8
                Re: How do i complete circut on CCFL test lamp

                PlainBill,You are correct the hot wires are in one connector and the return wires are in the other on this set up. 19” Westinghouse monitors use this set up frequently.
                The pigtails can easily be removed from the plastic housing by inserting a lead of a small capacitor into the top hole on the front of the plastic connector and pulling the pigtail out.
                The way its wired now is that only the hot leads are hooked up to the inverter, I guess it’s enough to excite the gas in the CCFL, but it has no ware to go.
                If the 2 small wires were shorted together, I think it would be like we doubled the length of the CCFL.
                Whatever I do, I consider it a success, if in the end I am breathing, seeing, feeling and hearing!

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                • DTLMG
                  Member
                  • Nov 2011
                  • 37

                  #9
                  Re: How do i complete circut on CCFL test lamp

                  Thank you Alexanna and Plain Bill. This helps me understand alot. I went to my local recycler and he let me disassemble a complete gaylord of Monitors so I could learn more about them. (he did have a puzzled look on his face why i wanted to do it for free) What a learning experience it was. All the westinghouse monitors are as you stated with the hot wires in one connector. I was able to score a pretty nice Viewsonic that I hopefully can use as a test PSU and inverter.

                  then there is DELL...the connecters that I saw were different yet. Are all Dells different or is it just the older ones?

                  Thanks for the info.... I learn so much from you guys.

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                  • alexanna
                    Member
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 1346

                    #10
                    Re: How do i complete circut on CCFL test lamp

                    On the DElls it depends on how many CCFLs are used.
                    If it is a 6 lamp system,2 connectors will look like you are accustom to seeing and the other 2 will usually have 2 HOT wires and share return between them in one connector.

                    Edit BTW those local re cyclers are GOOD people to get to know!!
                    Last edited by alexanna; 12-10-2011, 07:38 AM. Reason: re cyclers
                    Whatever I do, I consider it a success, if in the end I am breathing, seeing, feeling and hearing!

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                    • DTLMG
                      Member
                      • Nov 2011
                      • 37

                      #11
                      Re: How do i complete circut on CCFL test lamp

                      FWIW I scored a 2 dell monitors one with the 2 light wide connecter and one with the 3 light connector you speak of. They both have broken LCD screens, but the PSU, inverter and back lights are fine. Of course I had to get my hands on some of the test CCFLs too!

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