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  • budm
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2010
    • 40746
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    #21
    Re: Kind of a different question...

    Bottom line, you need to ground the exposed metal of the computer to the AC safety ground, and to add safety, plug the AC adapter into GFCI outlet.
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    • EasyGoing1
      Shock Therapist
      • Sep 2016
      • 977
      • USA

      #22
      Re: Kind of a different question...

      Originally posted by budm
      Bottom line, you need to ground the exposed metal of the computer to the AC safety ground, and to add safety, plug the AC adapter into GFCI outlet.
      You mean one of those outlets they put in bathrooms?
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      • stj
        Great Sage 齊天大聖
        • Dec 2009
        • 30917
        • Albion

        #23
        Re: Kind of a different question...

        the metal in the socket bit is probably just for strength.
        meter the resistance between that stud and the macbook body with the charger connected.

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        • EasyGoing1
          Shock Therapist
          • Sep 2016
          • 977
          • USA

          #24
          Re: Kind of a different question...

          Originally posted by stj
          the metal in the socket bit is probably just for strength.
          meter the resistance between that stud and the macbook body with the charger connected.
          Big goose egg ... but I can still connect a wire to it on the inside of the PSU and use it as my point of entry.
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          • stj
            Great Sage 齊天大聖
            • Dec 2009
            • 30917
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            #25
            Re: Kind of a different question...

            maybe you can just replace the 2pin socket with a cloverleaf style

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            • eccerr0r
              Solder Sloth
              • Nov 2012
              • 8661
              • USA

              #26
              Re: Kind of a different question...

              if it's a true ground pin why doesn't #%&*$ offer a 3 prong head for that charger?

              But even if they do, where's that Y capacitor? Is it in the head?

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              • eccerr0r
                Solder Sloth
                • Nov 2012
                • 8661
                • USA

                #27
                Re: Kind of a different question...

                The magic smoke leaked out of this one ... https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=94756 seems that round button is connected somewhere.

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                • stj
                  Great Sage 齊天大聖
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 30917
                  • Albion

                  #28
                  Re: Kind of a different question...

                  no, they are just using the backing to secure a thermal fuse.

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                  • EasyGoing1
                    Shock Therapist
                    • Sep 2016
                    • 977
                    • USA

                    #29
                    Re: Kind of a different question...

                    Originally posted by stj
                    maybe you can just replace the 2pin socket with a cloverleaf style
                    That's a good idea ... I'll have to see what I'm dealing with once I get the PSU apart. The default configuration of the PSU is an adapter with just two prongs sticking out... no power cable at all... and the PSU is so big and heavy, plugging it into a power strip that way is useless.
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                    • EasyGoing1
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                      • Sep 2016
                      • 977
                      • USA

                      #30
                      Re: Kind of a different question...

                      Originally posted by eccerr0r
                      The magic smoke leaked out of this one ... https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=94756 seems that round button is connected somewhere.
                      You might be right ... unless this wire is coming from the transformer ...

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                      • TechGeek
                        Computer Geek
                        • Jan 2015
                        • 2254
                        • USA

                        #31
                        Re: Kind of a different question...

                        Can confirm that the metal stud is grounded. Connect a grounded Apple charger cable to it and your problem should be solved.
                        Don't buy those $10 PSU "specials". They fail, and they have taken whole computers with them.

                        My computer doubles as a space heater.

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                        • EasyGoing1
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                          • Sep 2016
                          • 977
                          • USA

                          #32
                          Re: Kind of a different question...

                          Originally posted by TechGeek
                          Can confirm that the metal stud is grounded. Connect a grounded Apple charger cable to it and your problem should be solved.
                          I'm not so sure about that. This PSU is from a 2019 MBP and when I did a continuity check between the metal stub and the chassis of the laptop, I got nothin.
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                          • TechGeek
                            Computer Geek
                            • Jan 2015
                            • 2254
                            • USA

                            #33
                            Re: Kind of a different question...

                            As in infinite resistance or 0 resistance?
                            Don't buy those $10 PSU "specials". They fail, and they have taken whole computers with them.

                            My computer doubles as a space heater.

                            Permanently Retired Systems:
                            RIP Advantech UNO-3072LA (2008-2021) - Decommissioned and taken out of service permanently due to lack of software support for it. Not very likely to ever be recommissioned again.
                            Asus Q550LF (Old main laptop, 2014-2022) - Decommissioned and stripped due to a myriad of problems, the main battery bloating being the final nail in the coffin.


                            Kooky and Kool Systems
                            - 1996 Power Macintosh 7200/120 + PC Compatibility Card - Under Restoration
                            - 1993 Gateway 2000 80486DX/50 - Fully Operational/WIP
                            - 2004 Athlon 64 Retro Gaming System - Indefinitely Parked
                            - Main Workstation - Fully operational!

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                            • petehall347
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Jan 2015
                              • 4422
                              • United Kingdom

                              #34
                              Re: Kind of a different question...

                              might be worth asking apple what to do ..or maybe first ask if you should be feeling electricity on the metal parts .

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                              • stj
                                Great Sage 齊天大聖
                                • Dec 2009
                                • 30917
                                • Albion

                                #35
                                Re: Kind of a different question...

                                apple: "that's not electricity your feeling, it's euphoria from the joy of owning apple"

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                                • budm
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Feb 2010
                                  • 40746
                                  • USA

                                  #36
                                  Re: Kind of a different question...

                                  Use your AC Volt meter to measure the Voltage between AC outlet ground and the metal part of the Macbook.
                                  Plug the Macbook power supply into the GFCI outlet then use your AC Amp meter between outlet ground and the metal part of the Macbook to see how much current you are seeing.
                                  Never stop learning
                                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                  • EasyGoing1
                                    Shock Therapist
                                    • Sep 2016
                                    • 977
                                    • USA

                                    #37
                                    Re: Kind of a different question...

                                    Originally posted by budm
                                    Use your AC Volt meter to measure the Voltage between AC outlet ground and the metal part of the Macbook.
                                    Plug the Macbook power supply into the GFCI outlet then use your AC Amp meter between outlet ground and the metal part of the Macbook to see how much current you are seeing.
                                    This is how much Apple Euphoria I'm getting from my laptop right now... that's from the ground port on the wall socket and the part of the laptop where I often rest my palm.

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                                    • petehall347
                                      Badcaps Legend
                                      • Jan 2015
                                      • 4422
                                      • United Kingdom

                                      #38
                                      Re: Kind of a different question...

                                      now test the current .

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                                      • EasyGoing1
                                        Shock Therapist
                                        • Sep 2016
                                        • 977
                                        • USA

                                        #39
                                        Re: Kind of a different question...

                                        Originally posted by petehall347
                                        now test the current .
                                        im getting ZERO for amperage
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                                        • stj
                                          Great Sage 齊天大聖
                                          • Dec 2009
                                          • 30917
                                          • Albion

                                          #40
                                          Re: Kind of a different question...

                                          your meter is not showing it right - i'v seen that with flukes before, i think they filter out high frequency stuff.

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