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  • stj
    Great Sage 齊天大聖
    • Dec 2009
    • 31187
    • Albion

    #21
    Re: Bakon BK950D

    the tips are 70-75w at 24v,
    i dont know why the controller is 19v but i suspect it uses a laptop transformer.

    the russian guys have modded it for 24v btw.
    i wont post the sketchy details now,
    but heres the schem of the original unit.
    Attached Files

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    • miksi
      Member
      • Apr 2016
      • 11
      • Germany

      #22
      Re: Bakon BK950D

      So does your Bakon 950D run with 75W out of the box? I wonder if I got a fake one, if all 950D units are only 45W and always were, or if Bakon secretly changed the product some time ago?

      The seller offered me 3 USD discount, I am still not clear what to think of all this. Damn …

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      • stj
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        • Dec 2009
        • 31187
        • Albion

        #23
        Re: Bakon BK950D

        none run at 75w out-of-the-box.

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        • Fast Alpha
          Badcaps Veteran
          • Feb 2013
          • 245
          • United Kingdom

          #24
          Re: Bakon BK950D

          Part of this iron near where the tip goes in it came off.
          It separated from the holder.

          Anything like this happen to you too.

          Looks like loosy made.
          Attached Files
          http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/indg305.pdf

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          • diif
            Badcaps Legend
            • Feb 2014
            • 6978
            • England

            #25
            Re: Bakon BK950D

            Yeah, the rubber grommet is loose on mine too.It doesn't affect usage at all.

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            • Fast Alpha
              Badcaps Veteran
              • Feb 2013
              • 245
              • United Kingdom

              #26
              Re: Bakon BK950D

              It is really good at melting silver solder.
              http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/indg305.pdf

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              • stj
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                • Dec 2009
                • 31187
                • Albion

                #27
                Re: Bakon BK950D

                the rubber bit is called the "strain-relief" - push it back in.

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                • sam_sam_sam
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 6063
                  • USA

                  #28
                  Re: Bakon BK950D

                  Originally posted by stj
                  the tips are 70-75w at 24v,
                  i dont know why the controller is 19v but i suspect it uses a laptop transformer.

                  the russian guys have modded it for 24v btw.
                  i wont post the sketchy details now,
                  but heres the schem of the original unit.
                  I going to ask really stupid question here but where is the temperature sensor part of this circuit

                  I see how the iron get it power from but how does it control the temperature where is the sensor part

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                  • sam_sam_sam
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Jul 2011
                    • 6063
                    • USA

                    #29
                    Re: Bakon BK950D

                    I have thought of buying one of these iron's to run off a 20 volt battery but I want to make sure that it has temperature control

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                    • stj
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                      • Dec 2009
                      • 31187
                      • Albion

                      #30
                      Re: Bakon BK950D

                      first you need to understand the iron cartridge,
                      the element and sensor are in series.

                      so the base senses the voltage returning from the iron in between the pulses from the fet powering the element.

                      if you want to use a battery, you just need to use the control board and get a small 5v regulator to power the microcontroller from your input voltage.

                      now to your question.
                      if you look at the upper right of the second diagram, you will see the iron signal just before the fet branches down to an LM358 op-amp.
                      this then feeds the analog input on the microcontroller.

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                      • stj
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                        • Dec 2009
                        • 31187
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                        #31
                        Re: Bakon BK950D

                        btw, maybe this would be simpler for you:
                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgrB5P-rDLw

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                        • sam_sam_sam
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 6063
                          • USA

                          #32
                          Re: Bakon BK950D

                          Originally posted by stj
                          first you need to understand the iron cartridge,
                          the element and sensor are in series.

                          so the base senses the voltage returning from the iron in between the pulses from the fet powering the element.

                          if you want to use a battery, you just need to use the control board and get a small 5v regulator to power the microcontroller from your input voltage.

                          now to your question.
                          if you look at the upper right of the second diagram, you will see the iron signal just before the fet branches down to an LM358 op-amp.
                          this then feeds the analog input on the microcontroller.
                          Thanks for the explanation of how this works

                          What type of sensor is it ?

                          Do you know how fast the pluses are

                          is this like PWM or is a set pluse that does not change in value
                          Last edited by sam_sam_sam; 08-29-2017, 04:26 AM.

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                          • stj
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                            • Dec 2009
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                            #33
                            Re: Bakon BK950D

                            sensor is a cold junction themister - it generates voltage.

                            i think it's pwm.

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                            • sam_sam_sam
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Jul 2011
                              • 6063
                              • USA

                              #34
                              Re: Bakon BK950D

                              Originally posted by stj
                              sensor is a cold junction themister - it generates voltage.

                              i think it's pwm.
                              Thanks for the info

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                              • Fast Alpha
                                Badcaps Veteran
                                • Feb 2013
                                • 245
                                • United Kingdom

                                #35
                                Re: Bakon BK950D

                                In maplins there are two solders for sale, one normal lead free solder and lead free silver solder. I want to use normal one, my tip of soldering iron used the silver solder.

                                Will the silver solder always remain there?
                                Last edited by Fast Alpha; 09-14-2017, 07:19 PM.
                                http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/indg305.pdf

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                                • stj
                                  Great Sage 齊天大聖
                                  • Dec 2009
                                  • 31187
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                                  #36
                                  Re: Bakon BK950D

                                  no, it will come off clean with a wire-wool cleaner or a damp cloth

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                                  • vinceroger69
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Mar 2012
                                    • 6714
                                    • uk

                                    #37
                                    Re: Bakon BK950D

                                    Originally posted by diif
                                    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Newe...692790292.html

                                    I just cut off the plug and fitted a UK one.
                                    I know this is a old thread but ive finally just got around too ordering one of these irons and some various t12 tips.

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                                    • stj
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                                      • Dec 2009
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                                      #38
                                      Re: Bakon BK950D

                                      i hope you ordered one with a T12 handle then - most now have a T13 handle that uses shorter cartridges!

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                                      • vinceroger69
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Mar 2012
                                        • 6714
                                        • uk

                                        #39
                                        Re: Bakon BK950D

                                        Originally posted by stj
                                        i hope you ordered one with a T12 handle then - most now have a T13 handle that uses shorter cartridges!
                                        Good spot stj ive just cancelled the order have you got a link too one that uses t12 tips and has the rubber handle thanks this is the one ive just cancelled does this ebay link look the correct one?
                                        https://www.aliexpress.com/item/BK-9...54994c4dMqgVlF

                                        https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BK950D-Di...kAAOSwRgJXmIlH
                                        Last edited by vinceroger69; 07-07-2018, 09:45 AM.

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                                        • stj
                                          Great Sage 齊天大聖
                                          • Dec 2009
                                          • 31187
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                                          #40
                                          Re: Bakon BK950D

                                          the aliexpress seller clearly states T13,
                                          the ebay seller - with a total of 5 doesnt know what the hell he has - saying hakko936!!!

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