For crying out loud MSI...

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  • reaper57
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Sep 2014
    • 216
    • Norway

    #21
    Re: For crying out loud MSI...

    Wow definitely too much thermal paste! But I guess that as long as you apply enough pressure with the heat sink it should just slide off the cpu, but that's not really a good idea.
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    • kc8adu
      Super Moderator
      • Nov 2003
      • 8832
      • U.S.A!

      #22
      Re: For crying out loud MSI...

      reminds me of a new at the time athlon xp 3200 and mobo i got free.
      metallic based compound all over the cpu l bridges and all.inside the socket too.
      spent a while cleaning up the mess but it worked when i was done.ran it a few years myself.

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      • momaka
        master hoarder
        • May 2008
        • 12170
        • Bulgaria

        #23
        Re: For crying out loud MSI...

        Originally posted by Compgeke
        Acetone might also eat the CPU socket and any surrounding plastics.

        Wouldn't recommend myself.
        Yes, if you drench the motherboard with it. I usually moisten a very small piece of paper towel and use that to clean the die only.

        Originally posted by reaper57
        But I guess that as long as you apply enough pressure with the heat sink it should just slide off the cpu, but that's not really a good idea.
        As long as you don't try some of those so called "diamond" compounds. My friend bought some of that stuff one time. It is supposed to have diamond dust in it (ha, year right!) and thus have the best thermal conductivity of all thermal compounts. But it was so viscous and thick that it was impossible to apply a thin layer of it. Result: a thick layer of the "diamond" compound resulted in pretty much the same temperatures as before (and in some cases even worse). A big gimmick and waste of money if you ask me.

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        • edgars_ab
          Member
          • Nov 2014
          • 22
          • Latvija

          #24
          Re: For crying out loud MSI...

          Oh my gooooosh, this seemed a bit nasty. I think it would be more original to create a video about what to NOT use as an alternative for a thermal compound.

          I've seen it all - a foundation (makeup) cream, a hand cream, a toothpaste, even a super glue on the cpu. Why the hell they don't make videos about this?

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          • Agent24
            I see dead caps
            • Oct 2007
            • 4951
            • New Zealand

            #25
            Re: For crying out loud MSI...

            That does look like a lot, but I wonder though... stock thermal pads that come on AMD coolers are also quite thick but they work well. Maybe this paste they used is one that needs more than others... wouldn't bet on it though!

            Reminds me of when I built my first computer and wondered why the CPU was always overheating...
            "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
            -David VanHorn

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            • momaka
              master hoarder
              • May 2008
              • 12170
              • Bulgaria

              #26
              Re: For crying out loud MSI...

              Originally posted by edgars_ab
              I've seen it all - a foundation (makeup) cream, a hand cream, a toothpaste, even a super glue on the cpu.
              I've only seen the toothpaste one, and initially, it appeared to work sort of okay. Of course, as the toothpaste dried up, its efficiency was greatly reduced.

              On that note, I think just about any liquid that doesn't dry up with heat or time could work (more or less). Many liquids have 5 to 10 times the thermal conductivity of air. Water alone has about 20 times the conductivity of air.
              On a CPU with a large cooper heat-spreader, this could work. But on a small CPU with exposed dies (such as laptops and older CPUs like Pentium 3 and socket 462 AMDs), it probably won't.

              Originally posted by Agent24
              stock thermal pads that come on AMD coolers are also quite thick but they work well.
              I've noticed the same thing too.
              Moreover, you can remove the heatsink from the CPU and install it back on multiple times without re-applying thermal compound - and it still works just as good as it did before that!

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              • Agent24
                I see dead caps
                • Oct 2007
                • 4951
                • New Zealand

                #27
                Re: For crying out loud MSI...

                Originally posted by momaka
                I've noticed the same thing too.
                Moreover, you can remove the heatsink from the CPU and install it back on multiple times without re-applying thermal compound - and it still works just as good as it did before that!
                It does seem pretty resilient to re-use. But anyone wishing to do so should be aware to twist and break the bond before pulling up or you rip the CPU from the socket!
                "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
                -David VanHorn

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                • momaka
                  master hoarder
                  • May 2008
                  • 12170
                  • Bulgaria

                  #28
                  Re: For crying out loud MSI...

                  I ripped the CPU from the socket out like that *only* twice. Got lucky both times and didn't damage the CPU pins nor the socket (and the second time, the CPU actually fell on the desk - how it managed NOT to land on the pin side and bend nothing, I don't know ).

                  So for that reason, it's a standard procedure for me to twist-and-break (sometimes requiring multiple attempts) if I know the CPU has a heat-spreader.
                  Last edited by momaka; 01-27-2015, 07:41 PM.

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                  • c_hegge
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 5219
                    • Australia

                    #29
                    Re: For crying out loud MSI...

                    ^
                    That's one thing I like about s775 and newer Intel CPUs. It's impossible for the CPU to come out with the heatsink.
                    I love putting bad caps and flat batteries in fire and watching them explode!!

                    No wonder it doesn't work! You installed the jumper wires backwards

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                    • stj
                      Great Sage 齊天大聖
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 30985
                      • Albion

                      #30
                      Re: For crying out loud MSI...

                      i ripped a p4 out on the heatsink once and had to split them with a screwdriver & a small hammer.

                      it's amazing just how much normal silicon grease can hold stuff together when it's totally dry.

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                      • Agent24
                        I see dead caps
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 4951
                        • New Zealand

                        #31
                        Re: For crying out loud MSI...

                        Originally posted by momaka
                        I ripped the CPU from the socket out like that *only* twice. Got lucky both times and didn't damage the CPU pins nor the socket
                        I managed it once on my first Athlon 64 (socket 754) Lucky everything survived though. Was used to Socket A where that never happened...
                        "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
                        -David VanHorn

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                        • keeney123
                          Lauren
                          • Sep 2014
                          • 2536
                          • United States

                          #32
                          Re: For crying out loud MSI...

                          I use a 3/4 inch artist flat brush to spread the compound on both surfaces and use isopropyl alcohol to clean the brush.

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                          • momaka
                            master hoarder
                            • May 2008
                            • 12170
                            • Bulgaria

                            #33
                            Re: For crying out loud MSI...

                            Originally posted by keeney123
                            I use a 3/4 inch artist flat brush to spread the compound on both surfaces and use isopropyl alcohol to clean the brush.
                            That wastes a lot of thermal compound IMO. I use everything down to the last little smidgen. At the rate I am going, though, that cheap 30g tube of thermal compound will never end .

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