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  • jason123
    Badcaps Legend
    • Oct 2015
    • 1040
    • USA

    #1

    Philips 42" TV 42PFL3603D/F7 clicks but No LCD Backlight

    Hi folks,
    I'm suspecting the actual CCFL or EFL being bad, just not sure how to test, but would like to confirm.

    TV clicks upon plugging in AC. When I press the PWR ON button, clicks again.
    LED on the Main board comes on green (Assuming some diagnostics), Blue LED on the TCON comes on also when I turn the TV on, but turns off about 30 seconds later.

    3V3 ST is on (3.26 V)
    Standy 3.3 V (off) when I press power button goes to 0.16 V
    12Vssb is 11.75 V (on), 0.18 V (0ff)
    +12Voud is 13.8V (on) ~ 0V off
    -12Voud is -12.4 V (On) ~0V off

    INV-on is 3.00 V (on), 0.115 (off)

    Seems that it's in order from voltages standpoint. No bulging caps
    I don't have a high voltage source to test the CCFL / EFL
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  • dick_barton
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    • Aug 2015
    • 6642
    • Wales

    #2
    Re: Philips 42" TV 42PFL3603D/F7 clicks but No LCD Backlight

    Can you check the value and ESR of C700
    Attached Files
    Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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    • jason123
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      • Oct 2015
      • 1040
      • USA

      #3
      Re: Philips 42" TV 42PFL3603D/F7 clicks but No LCD Backlight

      Originally posted by dick_barton
      Can you check the value and ESR of C700
      ~40 miliOhm

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      • dick_barton
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        • Aug 2015
        • 6642
        • Wales

        #4
        Re: Philips 42" TV 42PFL3603D/F7 clicks but No LCD Backlight

        Have you got the 24V supply?
        Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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        • jason123
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          • Oct 2015
          • 1040
          • USA

          #5
          Re: Philips 42" TV 42PFL3603D/F7 clicks but No LCD Backlight

          Yes 23.4v. Though nothing (connector) connects to it

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          • budm
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            • Feb 2010
            • 40746
            • USA

            #6
            Re: Philips 42" TV 42PFL3603D/F7 clicks but No LCD Backlight

            If you turn on the TV in the dark room, do you see the backlights even flash on for seconds?
            Not all lamps will be all bad at the same time, the good lamps should still come on then if the circuit detects any bad lamp/lamps the inverter circuit will shutdown.
            Never stop learning
            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

            Inverter testing using old CFL:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

            TV Factory reset codes listing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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            • tvtimmy
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              • Mar 2015
              • 1160
              • usa

              #7
              Re: Philips 42" TV 42PFL3603D/F7 clicks but No LCD Backlight

              Look under the inverter transformer for bad solder joints, these are notorious for them.
              Touch them all up while you have the power supply out.

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              • jason123
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                • Oct 2015
                • 1040
                • USA

                #8
                Re: Philips 42" TV 42PFL3603D/F7 clicks but No LCD Backlight

                Originally posted by budm
                If you turn on the TV in the dark room, do you see the backlights even flash on for seconds?
                Not all lamps will be all bad at the same time, the good lamps should still come on then if the circuit detects any bad lamp/lamps the inverter circuit will shutdown.
                No light at all from the panel.

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                • jason123
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                  • Oct 2015
                  • 1040
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: Philips 42" TV 42PFL3603D/F7 clicks but No LCD Backlight

                  Originally posted by tvtimmy
                  Look under the inverter transformer for bad solder joints, these are notorious for them.
                  Touch them all up while you have the power supply out.
                  Looks fairly clean. Touched up the solder.. no change
                  Attached Files

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                  • R_J
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                    • Jun 2012
                    • 9516
                    • Canada

                    #10
                    Re: Philips 42" TV 42PFL3603D/F7 clicks but No LCD Backlight

                    Have you checked the inverter distribution board, I don't see it in your picture, follow the high voltage cables from the power supply inverter to the inverter boards

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                    • jason123
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                      • Oct 2015
                      • 1040
                      • USA

                      #11
                      Re: Philips 42" TV 42PFL3603D/F7 clicks but No LCD Backlight

                      I am assuming these distribution boards are inside the panel...haven't opened it yet
                      Last edited by jason123; 02-20-2021, 04:45 PM.

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                      • jason123
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                        • Oct 2015
                        • 1040
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: Philips 42" TV 42PFL3603D/F7 clicks but No LCD Backlight

                        One ccfl completely disconnected. Let's see if that does it
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                        • jason123
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                          • Oct 2015
                          • 1040
                          • USA

                          #13
                          Re: Philips 42" TV 42PFL3603D/F7 clicks but No LCD Backlight

                          Not it!
                          Last edited by jason123; 02-20-2021, 05:44 PM.

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                          • R_J
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                            • Jun 2012
                            • 9516
                            • Canada

                            #14
                            Re: Philips 42" TV 42PFL3603D/F7 clicks but No LCD Backlight

                            Do they try to light? How are all the other connections to the lamps?

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                            • jason123
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                              • Oct 2015
                              • 1040
                              • USA

                              #15
                              Re: Philips 42" TV 42PFL3603D/F7 clicks but No LCD Backlight

                              I went through all and solder them all. They don't try to light up at all

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                              • jason123
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                                • Oct 2015
                                • 1040
                                • USA

                                #16
                                Re: Philips 42" TV 42PFL3603D/F7 clicks but No LCD Backlight

                                I guess it's got to be power supply.. though I can't verify.. Time for the dump

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                                • R_J
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                                  • Jun 2012
                                  • 9516
                                  • Canada

                                  #17
                                  Re: Philips 42" TV 42PFL3603D/F7 clicks but No LCD Backlight

                                  Do you have the BL_ON_OFF voltage on CN7, pin-5? Check the voltages for U401, pin 20 should be +12v; pin 21/22 +5v

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                                  • nomoresonys
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                                    • Jan 2013
                                    • 12085
                                    • U.S.

                                    #18
                                    Re: Philips 42" TV 42PFL3603D/F7 clicks but No LCD Backlight

                                    I'd give it a good try at fixing, Philips usually has a very good picture quality.

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                                    • nomoresonys
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                                      • Jan 2013
                                      • 12085
                                      • U.S.

                                      #19
                                      Re: Philips 42" TV 42PFL3603D/F7 clicks but No LCD Backlight

                                      Did you check the fuse on the inverter board?

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                                      • ReeceyBurger123
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                                        • May 2014
                                        • 7325
                                        • Britain

                                        #20
                                        Re: Philips 42" TV 42PFL3603D/F7 clicks but No LCD Backlight

                                        I’ve had cold solder joints on the inverter and bad CCFL connections on this model and the 47” UK version.
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