TCL Model 55S405 - No Pic, No Backlight, No Sound - HELP!!!

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  • budm
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    • Feb 2010
    • 40746
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    #21
    Re: TCL Model 55S425 - No Pic, No Backlight, No Sound - HELP!!!

    BTW, I need closed up pictures of power supply board LED connector P1 (connected to the power supply board) so I can see which wire is connected to which pin of the connector.
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    • koolx
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      • Jun 2020
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      #22
      Re: TCL Model 55S425 - No Pic, No Backlight, No Sound - HELP!!!

      Originally posted by budm
      Please verify the TV full model number.
      According to shopjimmy, the boards for the 55S425 do not show the power supply used in your TV, your power supply board is P/N 08-L14TWA2-PW220AL
      There are many versions of the same TV model.
      https://www.shopjimmy.com/tcl-08-l14...wer-supply.htm
      According to SJ, your power supply board is used in 49S405TDAA and 55S405LGAA.
      Hi bud.. the full model# is: 55S405TAAA.

      I'll work on the voltage tomorrow.

      .

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      • koolx
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        • Jun 2020
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        #23
        Re: TCL Model 55S425 - No Pic, No Backlight, No Sound - HELP!!!

        Originally posted by budm
        BTW, I need closed up pictures of power supply board LED connector P1 (connected to the power supply board) so I can see which wire is connected to which pin of the connector.
        HI bud. I'm now using another multimeter made by MCM Electronics, model# 72-7940. The super tested it out on my house outlet which showed around 78 volts. But he says it should read 110 - 130 volts. We tested it on most of the outlets in my house which showed the same reading. He assures me the tool is working correctly. I've posted a pic of this for you. Let me know if the dial is set correctly.

        As to the boards here are updated pics. Hope they are to your liking!
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        Last edited by koolx; 07-04-2020, 02:19 PM.

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        • Diah
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          • Feb 2013
          • 6355
          • Germany

          #24
          Re: TCL Model 55S405 - No Pic, No Backlight, No Sound - HELP!!!

          if you put yours DM on 200 instate 300 as at yours pictures then measure the outlets

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          • budm
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            • Feb 2010
            • 40746
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            #25
            Re: TCL Model 55S405 - No Pic, No Backlight, No Sound - HELP!!!

            If the Voltage is really that low, that is brownout condition which can easily damage you fridge and air conditioner. You lights will also be dim through out the house.
            How about on the 200V AC scale? How about check some DC V on battery? Also check the meter's batteries. I really doubt that you are having only 79V AC at your house, if you do you better unplug your fridge. What does the Sperry meter show?
            I am surprised that your computer is still working if it is truly 79V AC.
            https://quickelectricity.com/protect...ing-brownouts/
            Last edited by budm; 07-04-2020, 02:51 PM.
            Never stop learning
            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

            Inverter testing using old CFL:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

            TV Factory reset codes listing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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            • koolx
              Member
              • Jun 2020
              • 27
              • USA

              #26
              Re: TCL Model 55S405 - No Pic, No Backlight, No Sound - HELP!!!

              Hi bud and diah. I retested it on the 300 ac scale. I get very abnormal readings that jump eccentrically from 1.0 - 155v. I think its possible that this multimeter is busted. I'll go ahead and use the sperry multimeter. But I need to buy batteries for it. I'll let you know by tonite or tomorrow when I test it. Thanks for your patience with me!

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              • budm
                Badcaps Legend
                • Feb 2010
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                #27
                Re: TCL Model 55S405 - No Pic, No Backlight, No Sound - HELP!!!

                "He assures me the tool is working correctly."
                So what does your supe do for living?
                Never stop learning
                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                • nomoresonys
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 12088
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                  #28
                  Re: TCL Model 55S405 - No Pic, No Backlight, No Sound - HELP!!!

                  Originally posted by budm
                  "He assures me the tool is working correctly."
                  So what does your supe do for living?

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                  • koolx
                    Member
                    • Jun 2020
                    • 27
                    • USA

                    #29
                    Re: TCL Model 55S405 - No Pic, No Backlight, No Sound - HELP!!!

                    Originally posted by budm
                    "He assures me the tool is working correctly."
                    So what does your supe do for living?
                    hes a super.

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                    • budm
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                      • Feb 2010
                      • 40746
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                      #30
                      Re: TCL Model 55S405 - No Pic, No Backlight, No Sound - HELP!!!

                      Well, I expect your super to tell you right away that your AC is too low, based on the meter is GOOD, and should disconnect your appliance and call the power company right away to fix the problem.
                      Is he the one that is going to help you troubleshooting the TV?
                      Are you really show about troubleshooting this TV? I do not want anyone to get killed.
                      Last edited by budm; 07-04-2020, 06:23 PM.
                      Never stop learning
                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                      • budm
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 40746
                        • USA

                        #31
                        Re: TCL Model 55S405 - No Pic, No Backlight, No Sound - HELP!!!

                        BTW, Did you read my post #20 and understand what you have to do, and knowing how the count the pins correctly, etc.?
                        Never stop learning
                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                        • koolx
                          Member
                          • Jun 2020
                          • 27
                          • USA

                          #32
                          Re: TCL Model 55S405 - No Pic, No Backlight, No Sound - HELP!!!

                          Originally posted by budm
                          Well, I expect your super to tell you right away that your AC is too low, based on the meter is GOOD, and should disconnect your appliance and call the power company right away to fix the problem.
                          Is he the one that is going to help you troubleshooting the TV?
                          Are you really show about troubleshooting this TV? I do not want anyone to get killed.
                          I'm a bit confused by your analysis. If the readings on that multimeter are sporadically inaccurate then it follows that theres something electronically wrong with the multimeter per se, not the wiring in my house. If not it would be common sense to expect all my devices to be unable to function correctly, namely my gaming PC which is sensitive to electric changes. As I've mentioned before I will buy new batteries for the other multimeter to test.

                          I am grateful for your concern for my safety. Just so you know, I doubt I have a GFCI outlet in my bathroom. As such I will ask my super for his supervision over testing the tv and will try to find a surge protector for extra precaution. Will let you know tomorrow. Thanks.
                          Last edited by koolx; 07-04-2020, 09:17 PM.

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                          • budm
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 40746
                            • USA

                            #33
                            Re: TCL Model 55S405 - No Pic, No Backlight, No Sound - HELP!!!

                            What I am saying is that you are told that the meter is good 'He assures me the tool is working correctly' but when you take the readings and the meter only shows 79V, then if I am the supe I would have great doubt that the meter is good by looking at the lights and appliance in your house, that would have giving the clue that the meter is wrong. How did the supe figure out that the meter is working correctly?
                            Surge protector is not safety device for preventing you from being electrocuted, it is for protecting the connected equipment.
                            Did you look all the outlets in your house to see if there is GFCI outlet in your house some where, my house is built in 1986 and required to have GFCI for both of my bath room and the kitchen, I do not know how old your house is
                            Never stop learning
                            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                            Inverter testing using old CFL:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                            TV Factory reset codes listing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                            • koolx
                              Member
                              • Jun 2020
                              • 27
                              • USA

                              #34
                              Re: TCL Model 55S405 - No Pic, No Backlight, No Sound - HELP!!!

                              Originally posted by budm
                              What I am saying is that you are told that the meter is good 'He assures me the tool is working correctly' but when you take the readings and the meter only shows 79V, then if I am the supe I would have great doubt that the meter is good by looking at the lights and appliance in your house, that would have giving the clue that the meter is wrong. How did the supe figure out that the meter is working correctly?
                              Surge protector is not safety device for preventing you from being electrocuted, it is for protecting the connected equipment.
                              Did you look all the outlets in your house to see if there is GFCI outlet in your house some where, my house is built in 1986 and required to have GFCI for both of my bath room and the kitchen, I do not know how old your house is
                              When the super handed me the multimeter he said I should swap out the batteries if I encounter poor performance with emphasis to switch it off when not in use. Although the digital read doesnt seem to be fading as an indicator of poor battery, I'm not taking any chances. Most of my house's outlets were checked. I even tested it at my neighbors. Same result. Henceforth I am stamping it as defective.

                              Regarding GFCI, my apartment building was built all the back in 1906 known as a pre-war building. About 18 years ago the bathroom outlet had trouble and was replaced by the super. I really dont think its GFCI capable but will ask the super if it is nonetheless to be sure.

                              Will test with the other multimeter tomorrow when i land fresh batteries. Thanks bud!

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                              • nomoresonys
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Jan 2013
                                • 12088
                                • U.S.

                                #35
                                Re: TCL Model 55S405 - No Pic, No Backlight, No Sound - HELP!!!

                                Pretty simple to check for accuracy, just take a battery from something that you have relatively fresh batteries in, like a remote control maybe and check voltage, looking for about 1.5 volts.

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                                • Diah
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                                  • Feb 2013
                                  • 6355
                                  • Germany

                                  #36
                                  Re: TCL Model 55S405 - No Pic, No Backlight, No Sound - HELP!!!

                                  80th years ago i had faced this isuue when i visted friends at his old house with 2 stage. at the top stage was the outlet read funny.. inspect his bathroom and i did found like heater with cabling hidden inside the wall.. be careful and take budum advice first to be safe you and yours families member

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                                  • neilc6
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                                    • Nov 2015
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                                    #37
                                    Re: TCL Model 55S405 - No Pic, No Backlight, No Sound - HELP!!!

                                    Budm is trying to guide you into a procedure of checking the voltages to the LED strips before the delicate and risky task of removing the panel.

                                    Flash of backlights on power up is a symptom of bad backlights and the protection circuit shutting them down. If you remove the panel and record the flash and go frame by frame, you should be able to see with ones are out. Better to replace them all with new to prevent future problems.

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                                    • koolx
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                                      • Jun 2020
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                                      #38
                                      Re: TCL Model 55S405 - No Pic, No Backlight, No Sound - HELP!!!

                                      Hello to all you guys and bud. So I went out to buy batteries for my multimeter. The store that carries it is closed today sunday but will open tomorrow. Tomorrow I will buy them when they open and will begin testing! Excuse the delay and appreciate all your patience.

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                                      • koolx
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                                        • Jun 2020
                                        • 27
                                        • USA

                                        #39
                                        Re: TCL Model 55S405 - No Pic, No Backlight, No Sound - HELP!!!

                                        Hey bud.. and to the rest of the guys. I found a TCL tv (TCL 55R625) with broken screen with same size screen (55") but different model. Is it possible to take the display from my TCL 55S405 and replace the broken one in the TCL 55R625? Will it fit??

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                                        • nomoresonys
                                          Badcaps Legend
                                          • Jan 2013
                                          • 12088
                                          • U.S.

                                          #40
                                          Re: TCL Model 55S405 - No Pic, No Backlight, No Sound - HELP!!!

                                          Check the sticker numbers on the panel/back chassis see if they match.

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