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  • DXseekerMO
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2018
    • 1119
    • US

    #21
    Re: Samsung UN60J6200AFXZA....no backlights but a picture

    Originally posted by dick_barton
    Can you post sharp pictures of your power supply board top and bottom.
    Sorry was this for me?
    They call me......."threadkiller"

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    • Cschares87
      Member
      • Mar 2018
      • 10
      • United States

      #22
      Re: Samsung UN60J6200AFXZA....no backlights but a picture

      BN44-00670A is the power supply ill get some pictures when get home.

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      • budm
        Badcaps Legend
        • Feb 2010
        • 40746
        • USA

        #23
        Re: Samsung UN60J6200AFXZA....no backlights but a picture

        Originally posted by DXseekerMO
        Interestingly enough I had over 400v indicated on one pin to the LED's on my TV.
        Power supply model BN44-??????
        Pictures of the board will help.
        400V! to me that looks it is not seeing the load (LED).
        Never stop learning
        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

        Inverter testing using old CFL:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

        TV Factory reset codes listing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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        • budm
          Badcaps Legend
          • Feb 2010
          • 40746
          • USA

          #24
          Re: Samsung UN60J6200AFXZA....no backlights but a picture

          Originally posted by Cschares87
          BN44-00670A is the power supply ill get some pictures when get home.
          May be you should start your new thread because we are trying to work with you and OP at the same time and we get confused.
          Never stop learning
          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

          Inverter testing using old CFL:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

          TV Factory reset codes listing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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          • dick_barton
            Badcaps Legend
            • Aug 2015
            • 6642
            • Wales

            #25
            Re: Samsung UN60J6200AFXZA....no backlights but a picture

            Sorry, answer was for DSchares87 but Bud is correct to suggest that he/she start a new thread to stop confusion.
            Last edited by dick_barton; 03-29-2018, 04:48 AM.
            Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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            • DXseekerMO
              Badcaps Legend
              • Feb 2018
              • 1119
              • US

              #26
              Re: Samsung UN60J6200AFXZA....no backlights but a picture

              Ok now that I know, I'm done working on this TV so if that poster finds it convenient to post their question here it's OK with me if that helps?
              They call me......."threadkiller"

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              • Curtis.schares@gmail.com
                New Member
                • Feb 2018
                • 5
                • United States

                #27
                Re: Samsung UN60J6200AFXZA....no backlights but a picture

                Here are some pictures of the power supply, the Diodes look like they got hot. But they tested ok. Thanks!
                Attached Files

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                • Curtis.schares@gmail.com
                  New Member
                  • Feb 2018
                  • 5
                  • United States

                  #28
                  Re: Samsung UN60J6200AFXZA....no backlights but a picture

                  I would have made my own post but the form rules don't let you. I apologise.

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                  • dick_barton
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Aug 2015
                    • 6642
                    • Wales

                    #29
                    Re: Samsung UN60J6200AFXZA....no backlights but a picture

                    If your board is as attached then it says the led voltage is 201V. If you are reading higher than this then it would be indicative of faulty led(s) or an open circuit in the led string connectors or connections.

                    What voltage do you have on Pin 2 of CNM803 (PWM_DIM)

                    Photo courtesy of Shopjimmy
                    Attached Files
                    Last edited by dick_barton; 03-30-2018, 12:00 PM.
                    Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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                    • Curtis.schares@gmail.com
                      New Member
                      • Feb 2018
                      • 5
                      • United States

                      #30
                      Re: Samsung UN60J6200AFXZA....no backlights but a picture

                      I don't remember exactly but it was 13v or 5v I think. I did the flash light test and could see the menu no problem. I thought it was the LEDs but the hot spot on the board had me concerned the power supply could be bad also. I was just wondering if there was any way to test the LEDs to make sure they are bad before I order new ones. Thanks.

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                      • budm
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 40746
                        • USA

                        #31
                        Re: Samsung UN60J6200AFXZA....no backlights but a picture

                        Those tow hot spots are part of the LED driver circuit, so may be it got hot due to some of the LEDs shorted out first and then finally went open circuit, so something like this you need to check the LEDs to make sure they are OK or not.
                        Never stop learning
                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                        • Curtis.schares@gmail.com
                          New Member
                          • Feb 2018
                          • 5
                          • United States

                          #32
                          Re: Samsung UN60J6200AFXZA....no backlights but a picture

                          Thanks but how do I check the LEDs to see if they are open?

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                          • budm
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 40746
                            • USA

                            #33
                            Re: Samsung UN60J6200AFXZA....no backlights but a picture

                            https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...2&d=1522432537
                            See those 4 LED test points TP1 ~ TP4 in the LED drivers section? You will very skinny probe tips to get to the test points.
                            TV is OFF, then you will leave the black probe on the chassis, red probe on TP1 then turn on the TV while watching the DC Voltmeter to see how high it goes up too, this will happen fast so you must keep your eyes on the meter, record that reading then, turn the TV off and repeat the same procedure on TP 2, 3, and 4.
                            Or you can spend about $30 ~ 40 for the LED tester which will give you Forward Voltage (Vf) reading of each LED string to see if they are all the same or not, I would get the LED tester to make it much easier to locate the problem, it is not 100% but better than nothing.
                            Never stop learning
                            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                            Inverter testing using old CFL:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                            TV Factory reset codes listing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                            • Curtis.schares@gmail.com
                              New Member
                              • Feb 2018
                              • 5
                              • United States

                              #34
                              Re: Samsung UN60J6200AFXZA....no backlights but a picture

                              I've tested all of those they are 320V, I think they are supposed to be around 200V. I tested the LED strips for an open and I found one that does not test the same as the others. It is open when they others have a reading. So I'm almost sure I have an open on one of the strings. But why are all the strings black and not half when it has 2 different supply that feed them? Thanks.

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                              • CapLeaker
                                Leaking Member
                                • Dec 2014
                                • 8158
                                • Canada

                                #35
                                Re: Samsung UN60J6200AFXZA....no backlights but a picture

                                an error in one string turns off all back lights.

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                                • tahoe
                                  Member
                                  • Jan 2012
                                  • 18

                                  #36
                                  Re: Samsung UN60J6200AFXZA....no backlights but a picture

                                  Hi I need help with a UN60J6200AFXZA
                                  - installed New LED strips from Shop Jimmy..
                                  - No Backlights when Main Board is disconnected.
                                  - Replaced LED Diode, D9001C and MOSFET Q9001C
                                  O Volt reading (between Black and Grey wires on LED connector) when LED cable is disconnected
                                  - Replaced QP801CS and QP802CS
                                  Still O Volt reading (between Black and Grey wires on LED connector) when LED cable is disconnected
                                  Any ideas?
                                  thanks

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                                  • HutchAmpMan
                                    New Member
                                    • Mar 2022
                                    • 2
                                    • United States

                                    #37
                                    Re: Samsung UN60J6200AFXZA....no backlights but a picture

                                    Originally posted by DXseekerMO
                                    Interestingly enough I had over 400v indicated on one pin to the LED's on my TV.
                                    Do you have an LED tester? If not, they are only about $30-$0 from Amazon. It will let you know if you have bad LEDs. With that voltage you mentioned (it's the unloaded voltage from the PSU) it probably is an open LED strip.

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                                    • Diah
                                      Badcaps Legend
                                      • Feb 2013
                                      • 6374
                                      • Germany

                                      #38
                                      Re: Samsung UN60J6200AFXZA....no backlights but a picture

                                      Originally posted by tahoe
                                      Hi I need help with a UN60J6200AFXZA
                                      - installed New LED strips from Shop Jimmy..
                                      - No Backlights when Main Board is disconnected.
                                      - Replaced LED Diode, D9001C and MOSFET Q9001C
                                      O Volt reading (between Black and Grey wires on LED connector) when LED cable is disconnected
                                      - Replaced QP801CS and QP802CS
                                      Still O Volt reading (between Black and Grey wires on LED connector) when LED cable is disconnected
                                      Any ideas?

                                      thanks
                                      when you disconnect the MB from PCB, the BL socket should be in place then the BL circuit on PCB turn on... your work after replacement parts always with out BL socket.. and this is wrong as LED strips in total are part of the circuit

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