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  • etechb
    New Member
    • Jun 2014
    • 6
    • USA

    #1

    Samsung PN64E550D1FNZA

    I have been working on this unit for about two days. I believe the set was struck by lightning but can't confirm.

    I have been concentrating on the PS board as I am getting some strange stuff going on. I am getting 120V into the board but cannot record anything at the Vs and Va test points. they are both either at or near zero at all times.

    I have disconnected all of the other boards from the PS and tested the voltages again and still receive the same thing.

    The Standby LED comes on and the blinks 5 times and then you can here the relay click to start over. It keeps doing this time and time again.

    Has anyone seen this before and what else should I be looking for?
  • budm
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2010
    • 40746
    • USA

    #2
    Re: Samsung PN64E550D1FNZA

    The standby power supply must be working otherwise you will not be getting any LED indicator.
    You need to up load the pictures of the whole backside of the TV showing all the boards, then pictures of at least the power supply board.
    The power supply board should have P/N with something like BNXX-XXXXXZ.
    Vs power supply is switched on by the command signal from the main board, the main power supply section is also switched on when the PS-ON pin is grounded.
    Never stop learning
    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

    Inverter testing using old CFL:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

    TV Factory reset codes listing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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    • etechb
      New Member
      • Jun 2014
      • 6
      • USA

      #3
      Re: Samsung PN64E550D1FNZA

      Thank you Bud.

      The main board is plugged in but I am not getting anything on Vs. I will ground the PS ON and recheck voltages. If I do this I should get the full voltage levels right?

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      • budm
        Badcaps Legend
        • Feb 2010
        • 40746
        • USA

        #4
        Re: Samsung PN64E550D1FNZA

        You need to find out what the DCV on the PS-ON pin is when TV is OFF and when TV is switched ON. Do not try to GND anything until we know the status of the command signals first.
        Once we know that we have the PS-ON command signal then we need to find out if we have PFC Boosted Voltage or not on the main filter cap, there are steps that need to follow first to narrow down the cause of the problem. Right now we cannot really tell until we see the good clear pictures of the boards and the model number of this power supply board.
        Vs command signal has to be present for the Vs power supply to come on but it needs the Boosted Voltage to run.
        Never stop learning
        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

        Inverter testing using old CFL:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

        TV Factory reset codes listing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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        • martino
          Not so "senior"
          • Aug 2013
          • 997
          • canada

          #5
          Re: Samsung PN64E550D1FNZA

          ps-on needs to be pulled to ground and vs-on needs to be pulled up.
          meaning:resistor of approx 560 ohm(give or take) from ps-on to ground.
          same size resistor from vs-on to 5volt standby.

          These psu's are notorious for blowing themselves up due to bad soldering on the fets.
          I'd check the fet's and diodes on the heatsink for shorts.QP802, 804, QS802, 804

          Shopjimmy does have a repair kit for these.
          https://www.shopjimmy.com/samsung-bn...repair-kit.htm

          If you do use the repair kit,do NOT replace UQ802. It is a blank chip that needs to be programmed,old one will be fine.


          Sorry for the interruption Couldn't help myself,back to budm...(drops mic and carefully tip toes of stage......)
          Last edited by martino; 08-29-2016, 06:49 PM.
          Proud owner of dozens of broken TV's and many,many,many boards.


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          • etechb
            New Member
            • Jun 2014
            • 6
            • USA

            #6
            Re: Samsung PN64E550D1FNZA

            PS board is bn44-00515a. I will take pictures tomorrow and post them.

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            • Andyy
              Member
              • Aug 2016
              • 28
              • Australia

              #7
              Re: Samsung PN64E550D1FNZA

              Originally posted by martino
              Shopjimmy does have a repair kit for these.
              https://www.shopjimmy.com/samsung-bn...repair-kit.htm

              If you do use the repair kit,do NOT replace UQ802. It is a blank chip that needs to be programmed,old one will be fine.
              Also shopjimmy's kit does NOT contain RS833 and RS819. These are 47Ω 0.125watt (0805 surface mount package) gate drive resistors for QS802 & QS804. I found both my gate drive resistors open circuit when I repaired my board. If you can't get 0805's you can squeeze 1206's onto the pads. DON'T use 0603's as their power rating 0.1watt maybe insufficient.
              Last edited by Andyy; 08-29-2016, 09:48 PM.

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              • etechb
                New Member
                • Jun 2014
                • 6
                • USA

                #8
                Re: Samsung PN64E550D1FNZA

                I took these pictures in a rush and I will get better ones tonight.
                Attached Files

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                • budm
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 40746
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: Samsung PN64E550D1FNZA

                  BTW, you should check all those parts used in the SJ Kit on your board to see if they are OK.

                  SJ pictures as a ref to compare to your board:
                  Samsung BN44-00515A (P64FW_CPN) Power Supply Unit.
                  Pictures provided by shopjimmy.
                  Attached Files
                  Never stop learning
                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                  • etechb
                    New Member
                    • Jun 2014
                    • 6
                    • USA

                    #10
                    Re: Samsung PN64E550D1FNZA

                    Bud,

                    I am pretty new at this. Can I test them in circuit for shorts with a multimeter?

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                    • alfredomfr1
                      Badcaps Veteran
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 318
                      • usa

                      #11
                      Re: Samsung PN64E550D1FNZA

                      I need to know the value of RS835

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                      • Keshenatech1
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2018
                        • 149
                        • United States

                        #12
                        Re: Samsung PN64E550D1FNZA

                        Originally posted by martino
                        ps-on needs to be pulled to ground and vs-on needs to be pulled up.
                        meaning:resistor of approx 560 ohm(give or take) from ps-on to ground.
                        same size resistor from vs-on to 5volt standby.

                        These psu's are notorious for blowing themselves up due to bad soldering on the fets.
                        I'd check the fet's and diodes on the heatsink for shorts.QP802, 804, QS802, 804

                        Shopjimmy does have a repair kit for these.
                        https://www.shopjimmy.com/samsung-bn...repair-kit.htm

                        If you do use the repair kit,do NOT replace UQ802. It is a blank chip that needs to be programmed,old one will be fine.


                        Sorry for the interruption Couldn't help myself,back to budm...(drops mic and carefully tip toes of stage......)
                        I don't see a UQ802, do you mean US802? My kit only came with ICP801 and US801. There is a US802 on the board, but the kit did not come with that one. Maybe they've realized that and taken it out of the kit since this post was 1st made in 2016?
                        Anyway I bought the kit and rebuilt my power board. The TV turns on and off, logic seems to be working, but the screen won't light up and I noticed the VS starts up fairly close to specs but then keeps dropping as I leave it run. I was afraid to run it too long like that. How long does this model need to run before the screen lights up, should it be almost immediate? Also, how can I determine if I still have power board problems, or if the problem is elsewhere such as a Y sustain board and/or buffer?

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                        • brendan2330
                          New Member
                          • Jun 2016
                          • 2
                          • Australia

                          #13
                          Re: Samsung PN64E550D1FNZA

                          Originally posted by Keshenatech1
                          I don't see a UQ802, do you mean US802? My kit only came with ICP801 and US801. There is a US802 on the board, but the kit did not come with that one. Maybe they've realized that and taken it out of the kit since this post was 1st made in 2016?
                          Anyway I bought the kit and rebuilt my power board. The TV turns on and off, logic seems to be working, but the screen won't light up and I noticed the VS starts up fairly close to specs but then keeps dropping as I leave it run. I was afraid to run it too long like that. How long does this model need to run before the screen lights up, should it be almost immediate? Also, how can I determine if I still have power board problems, or if the problem is elsewhere such as a Y sustain board and/or buffer?
                          how did you go with the tv? im trying to learn a bit before attacking myn. the kit seems to be the way to go...

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