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  • domix
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2014
    • 166
    • Slovenia

    #1

    PHILIPS 26 PFL3403/10 slow start up

    Hello,
    i have this TV PHILIPS 26 PFL3403/10 and after a time when is turned off or unpluged i have some problem. When i power it on shows a slowly changing pattern of coloured vertical lines for about 10 minutes before the TV image appears. Than work perfect.

    I opened it to check if there are any blown caps, but they looks okey, i think. Any ideas how to remove that, because it is annoying to wait sometimes 10 min to tv turn on.
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  • Diah
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2013
    • 6363
    • Germany

    #2
    Re: PHILIPS 26 PFL3403/10 slow start up

    take photo to the power supply, its bad capacitor at the line to provide the main board with VDC

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    • dick_barton
      Badcaps Legend
      • Aug 2015
      • 6642
      • Wales

      #3
      Re: PHILIPS 26 PFL3403/10 slow start up

      Measure your power supply voltages and see if there is a problem.

      Service manual available for download:-

      Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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      • Diah
        Badcaps Legend
        • Feb 2013
        • 6363
        • Germany

        #4
        Re: PHILIPS 26 PFL3403/10 slow start up

        its not Voltage, he will find the 12 Volts, but this 12 V hat less currents where it should be 4A

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        • multimeter
          Badcaps Veteran
          • Jan 2011
          • 739
          • united kingdom

          #5
          Re: PHILIPS 26 PFL3403/10 slow start up

          PFL series suffer with bad secondary caps with out the obvious sign,gluxen caps if memory serves me right,replace on sight and test again,

          the 12v to the main could be low causing the lines,does the on screen menu show when the lines are there?,it could be a main board issue ,use a hair drier to heat the power board at first startup and note if the tv corrects itself faster,then try with the main board,which would indicate capacitor issue,though i think this is maybe a main board issue
          fixed so far...376 lg lcd tv's,24 onn tv;s,24 panasonic lcd,16 jvc lcd,12 marshall jcm800 amps,refurb of various disco equipment lighting,old style disco decks ,and a flymo!

          ----------------------------------------------
          please let us know if everything works ok if your tv gets fixed, as it will be and aid for anyone else having the same problem and wishing to fix it.it would save people clogging up this site with topics that are duplicated,and can be found easily using the search function.,and taking up valuable space.enjoy your fixed tv!,hopefully!

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          • dick_barton
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            • Aug 2015
            • 6642
            • Wales

            #6
            Re: PHILIPS 26 PFL3403/10 slow start up

            Check your 24V/6A, 12V/4A supplies and see if one of them is low and rising while warming up.
            Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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            • domix
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2014
              • 166
              • Slovenia

              #7
              Re: PHILIPS 26 PFL3403/10 slow start up

              Here is the pics of supply board and caps, this tv is so not so easy to open like other where yuo just take down back cover :P
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              • Diah
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                • Feb 2013
                • 6363
                • Germany

                #8
                Re: PHILIPS 26 PFL3403/10 slow start up

                change all caps near the white socket photo 1

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                • domix
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                  • Jan 2014
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                  #9
                  Re: PHILIPS 26 PFL3403/10 slow start up

                  Originally posted by Diah
                  change all caps near the white socket photo 1
                  3x blue and 3x black ?

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                  • Diah
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Feb 2013
                    • 6363
                    • Germany

                    #10
                    Re: PHILIPS 26 PFL3403/10 slow start up

                    black you have 4 pieces

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                    • ReeceyBurger123
                      Never Give Up !
                      • May 2014
                      • 7325
                      • Britain

                      #11
                      Re: PHILIPS 26 PFL3403/10 slow start up

                      Guys please ! This is a panel fault, what screen is used ? Guessing a V260B1 from Cmo ?
                      Please Do Not PM My Page Asking For Help Badcaps Is The Place For Advise, Page Linked For Business Reasons Only. Anyone Doing So Will Be Banned Instantly !

                      https://www.facebook.com/Telford-Tel...7894576335359/

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                      • domix
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2014
                        • 166
                        • Slovenia

                        #12
                        Re: PHILIPS 26 PFL3403/10 slow start up

                        Originally posted by ReeceyBurger123
                        Guys please ! This is a panel fault, what screen is used ? Guessing a V260B1 from Cmo ?
                        yes, exactly this one

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                        • ReeceyBurger123
                          Never Give Up !
                          • May 2014
                          • 7325
                          • Britain

                          #13
                          Re: PHILIPS 26 PFL3403/10 slow start up

                          Right knew it, panel fault. I will link a video to the repair of the panel.
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                          • ReeceyBurger123
                            Never Give Up !
                            • May 2014
                            • 7325
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                            #14
                            Re: PHILIPS 26 PFL3403/10 slow start up

                            Link to video on repair:

                            https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mMo3NBGLwH0
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                            • domix
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                              • Jan 2014
                              • 166
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                              #15
                              Re: PHILIPS 26 PFL3403/10 slow start up

                              No it not panel fault, i place tv on stand and plug it in then need 10 min to scow picture, than can i turn on and off how many imes i want and it work, but if i plug the cable out and leave one time and than plug in back then need again 10 minutes to turn on

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                              • ReeceyBurger123
                                Never Give Up !
                                • May 2014
                                • 7325
                                • Britain

                                #16
                                Re: PHILIPS 26 PFL3403/10 slow start up

                                So then its a panel fault, panel fault can take ages to get working then it will work fine. But fine if you dont want to listen go ahead and waste your time checking voltages.
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                                • Nick's Tvs
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                                  • Jan 2014
                                  • 621
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                                  #17
                                  Re: PHILIPS 26 PFL3403/10 slow start up

                                  Domix,

                                  Very easy way to figure this out, if you have checked ReeceyBurger123's youtube video at all, you will notice that he twists/bends the frame of the set a bit to cause small movements on the screen and frame. This causes the issue to either appear and or disappear dependent on how you move and twist the tv. Give that a try, if you can't get the issue to go away by doing that within the first 10 minutes and or make it reappear after 10 minutes of the screen being on, then go ahead and mess around with the power supply, but it is a very easy check and won't take more than a few minutes to try.

                                  Good luck

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                                  • Diah
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Feb 2013
                                    • 6363
                                    • Germany

                                    #18
                                    Re: PHILIPS 26 PFL3403/10 slow start up

                                    the 12 Volts should have 4A, any less than this value it will be delay to start.. and make noise at picture. wasting time and spend penny on caps better than starting with panel which it may broken at any little human mistake.

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                                    • ReeceyBurger123
                                      Never Give Up !
                                      • May 2014
                                      • 7325
                                      • Britain

                                      #19
                                      Re: PHILIPS 26 PFL3403/10 slow start up

                                      Its alright Diah is always correct no one else's EXPERIENCED view matters
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                                      • Diah
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                                        • Feb 2013
                                        • 6363
                                        • Germany

                                        #20
                                        Re: PHILIPS 26 PFL3403/10 slow start up

                                        Originally posted by ReeceyBurger123
                                        Its alrigigh
                                        ReeceyBurger123 i have on hand new nick name for you hahahah ReeceyBurger123PANEL hahahah you are very expensive at repair LOL

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