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  • vinceroger69
    Badcaps Legend
    • Mar 2012
    • 6714
    • uk

    #41
    Re: Sceptre X405BV-FHD3HF02205 no power

    Do you know the background of the tv as budm says it looks like the ps.on signal is always on which comes from the mainboard could this tv took a lightening strike? which may of damaged the mainboard just a thought.

    is there anyway too test just the psu to rule it out by jumping pins? at least it will confirm a mainboard fault.

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    • budm
      Badcaps Legend
      • Feb 2010
      • 40746
      • USA

      #42
      Re: Sceptre X405BV-FHD3HF02205 no power

      Where are the names and pin number of the pins for CON4? You are not making it easy for us to help without putting the names of each pin.
      GND
      PS-ON
      ADJ
      BL-ON
      +12V
      Last edited by budm; 06-10-2016, 08:49 AM.
      Never stop learning
      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

      Inverter testing using old CFL:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

      TV Factory reset codes listing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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      • plbrand
        Member
        • Jun 2016
        • 12
        • United States of America

        #43
        Re: Sceptre X405BV-FHD3HF02205 no power

        My apologies, I didn't understand precisely what you were looking for. Hopefully the attached document provides the necessary info.

        Dick, I don't see a board in my TV that looks like the one in your photo. If I'm missing something, please advise.

        The TV failed progressively. Initially, if I unplugged it, waited a few minutes and tried again, it would sometimes come on and operate normally for as long as it remained on. The frequency of coming on after this re-boot increased quickly until it won't come on at all - just the red standby light.

        Because of the progressive nature of the failure, it would seem unlikely for a lightning strike, but may be a possibility.

        Again, thank all of you for your patience and help.

        Paul
        Attached Files

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        • budm
          Badcaps Legend
          • Feb 2010
          • 40746
          • USA

          #44
          Re: Sceptre X405BV-FHD3HF02205 no power

          So the BL-ON (Backlights ON) is not present, that is from the main board, other Voltages and signals are fine.
          Never stop learning
          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

          Inverter testing using old CFL:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

          TV Factory reset codes listing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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          • dick_barton
            Badcaps Legend
            • Aug 2015
            • 6643
            • Wales

            #45
            Re: Sceptre X405BV-FHD3HF02205 no power

            Originally posted by plbrand
            Dick, I don't see a board in my TV that looks like the one in your photo. If I'm missing something, please advise.
            Paul
            Sorry if it's the wrong board. What are the voltages on Connector 4?
            Last edited by dick_barton; 06-10-2016, 11:27 AM.
            Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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            • budm
              Badcaps Legend
              • Feb 2010
              • 40746
              • USA

              #46
              Re: Sceptre X405BV-FHD3HF02205 no power

              http://www.shopjimmy.com/sceptre-kw-...t-inverter.htm

              Sceptre KW-PIV400102A Power Supply / Backlight Inverter.
              Pictures provided by shopjimmy
              Attached Files
              Never stop learning
              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

              Inverter testing using old CFL:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

              TV Factory reset codes listing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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              • dick_barton
                Badcaps Legend
                • Aug 2015
                • 6643
                • Wales

                #47
                Re: Sceptre X405BV-FHD3HF02205 no power

                Thanks budm for the correct pictures.
                Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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                • plbrand
                  Member
                  • Jun 2016
                  • 12
                  • United States of America

                  #48
                  Re: Sceptre X405BV-FHD3HF02205 no power

                  Connector 4 voltages are shown on the attached document. "BL-ON" voltage appears to be .20

                  Paul
                  Attached Files

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                  • dick_barton
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Aug 2015
                    • 6643
                    • Wales

                    #49
                    Re: Sceptre X405BV-FHD3HF02205 no power

                    So Budm is correct and you are missing the Backlight On from the main board for some reason.

                    Edit:
                    Whats the part number on U1 on the underside of the board?
                    Last edited by dick_barton; 06-10-2016, 12:20 PM.
                    Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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                    • budm
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 40746
                      • USA

                      #50
                      Re: Sceptre X405BV-FHD3HF02205 no power

                      BTW, the PS-ON should toggle HIGH and LOW when power switch is togGle on and OFF, if not, then you have problem with not just the BL-ON signal but the PS-ON too.
                      At this point it is safe to say that the problem is on the main board.
                      Never stop learning
                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                      • plbrand
                        Member
                        • Jun 2016
                        • 12
                        • United States of America

                        #51
                        Re: Sceptre X405BV-FHD3HF02205 no power

                        Voltages do not change on BL-ON or PS-ON when the power switch is pushed on/off.

                        The part number for U1 (UA1) is:

                        TPA3110LD2
                        23Tg4
                        CO4L

                        The part number for the large chip U100 is:
                        MSD3391DS
                        A7MHA93ZB
                        1214D

                        Thanks again, if you guys are willing to continue to try, so am I!

                        Paul

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                        • plbrand
                          Member
                          • Jun 2016
                          • 12
                          • United States of America

                          #52
                          Re: Sceptre X405BV-FHD3HF02205 no power

                          Is it likely that the EEPROM on this board has failed? I notice the replacements are commonly available. Would this be worth a try?

                          Thanks again for all your help.

                          Paul

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                          • ReeceyBurger123
                            Never Give Up !
                            • May 2014
                            • 7325
                            • Britain

                            #53
                            Re: Sceptre X405BV-FHD3HF02205 no power

                            Yes epprom failure so common on these junks.
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                            • plbrand
                              Member
                              • Jun 2016
                              • 12
                              • United States of America

                              #54
                              Re: Sceptre X405BV-FHD3HF02205 no power

                              Bought a replacement EEPROM from ShopJimmy, soldered it in and TV works perfectly.

                              Thank you guys for your help and guidance.

                              Paul

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                              • kahall
                                New Member
                                • Jun 2016
                                • 8
                                • United States

                                #55
                                Re: Sceptre X405BV-FHD3HF02205 no power

                                Hello, This is my first real post here other than the intro.
                                It looks like there have been 2 successful repairs to this model from this thread and I just wanted to let you know there are now 3.
                                I have one of these that just quit about 10 days ago. I googled around and came upon this thread. I followed what was posted on the 1st page and when I saw the results for diodes D10, 22, 23 and my D10 was reading 0v compared to the others I gambled and figured that was the culprit since my results were similar to the original posters. Ordered it from digikey, received it today and soldered it in place and so far so good. It's working as it was before.
                                I actually enjoyed fixing it and saved $300 or so.
                                I'm going to keep my eyes peeled for others with T.V. issues and try to repair those as well as I have free time I need to fill so I will be back.
                                Thanks,
                                Kirk

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                                • coolbone83
                                  New Member
                                  • Oct 2017
                                  • 2
                                  • USA

                                  #56
                                  Re: Sceptre X405BV-FHD3HF02205 no power

                                  Hi everyone, sorry to bring this back from the dead. I am having the same problem that plbrand was having with his sceptre tv. STBY light on...won't power on. Same model, same boards. I am also getting the same readings on the pins. Is there a way to bypass the main board with a jumper so i know for sure that it is the problem? I am having trouble finding an EEPROM that matches my board #s exactly and according to shopjimmy it has to be EXACT....the closest is 1 number off. According to SCEPTRE they sell the whole board...but I would still like to be sure. Thank you,

                                  Trevor

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                                  • vinceroger69
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Mar 2012
                                    • 6714
                                    • uk

                                    #57
                                    Re: Sceptre X405BV-FHD3HF02205 no power

                                    try freeze spray on the eeprom ic if the set now starts up ok you can remove the ic and freeze it again and copy the data the write the data back too a new ic i know this is not the same make of tv but this video gives you a idea what too try
                                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qy8f...t=WL&index=114
                                    Last edited by vinceroger69; 10-27-2017, 01:19 PM.

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                                    • kahall
                                      New Member
                                      • Jun 2016
                                      • 8
                                      • United States

                                      #58
                                      Re: Sceptre X405BV-FHD3HF02205 no power

                                      I have repaired this TV once and posted in this thread a few years ago saying so. It now has the same symptoms as plbrand had on his and is still in the such a state that I can fiddle with the button and unplug/replug and get it to come on so I don't have it apart yet. plbrand replaced the eeprom which I am just going to try.

                                      Would someone be so kind as to use one of the many pics of the board in this thread and point out where the eeprom is?


                                      I can handle it from there.

                                      Thanks!

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                                      • vinceroger69
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Mar 2012
                                        • 6714
                                        • uk

                                        #59
                                        Re: Sceptre X405BV-FHD3HF02205 no power

                                        Originally posted by kahall
                                        I have repaired this TV once and posted in this thread a few years ago saying so. It now has the same symptoms as plbrand had on his and is still in the such a state that I can fiddle with the button and unplug/replug and get it to come on so I don't have it apart yet. plbrand replaced the eeprom which I am just going to try.

                                        Would someone be so kind as to use one of the many pics of the board in this thread and point out where the eeprom is?


                                        I can handle it from there.

                                        Thanks!
                                        if you look on the shopjimmy web site im sure when you search for the eeprom it gives the board number location

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                                        • kahall
                                          New Member
                                          • Jun 2016
                                          • 8
                                          • United States

                                          #60
                                          Re: Sceptre X405BV-FHD3HF02205 no power

                                          Originally posted by vinceroger69
                                          if you look on the shopjimmy web site im sure when you search for the eeprom it gives the board number location
                                          Oh, I see that now. Thanks for the tip.

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