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  • dnixon
    Member
    • Dec 2015
    • 18
    • usa

    #21
    Re: Sceptre X405BV-FHD3HF02205 no power

    Any suggestions on quality brands and where to get them?

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    • bodh
      New Member
      • Feb 2016
      • 4
      • USA

      #22
      Re: Sceptre X405BV-FHD3HF02205 no power

      Did you find a source for this diode? I'm repairing the same board, tv's model is only different at the end by 04 instead of 05. I ran through these tests and sure enough that same component is ringing as bad. Removed it and i have my 5vsb.. I'm looking at replacing it with an mbr5200 in a DO-27 style instead of the DO-27(B), since that appears to be all that is available.. They appear to have the same ratings, but i know little about electronic component markings..

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      • budm
        Badcaps Legend
        • Feb 2010
        • 40746
        • USA

        #23
        Re: Sceptre X405BV-FHD3HF02205 no power

        Originally posted by bodh
        Did you find a source for this diode? I'm repairing the same board, tv's model is only different at the end by 04 instead of 05. I ran through these tests and sure enough that same component is ringing as bad. Removed it and i have my 5vsb.. I'm looking at replacing it with an mbr5200 in a DO-27 style instead of the DO-27(B), since that appears to be all that is available.. They appear to have the same ratings, but i know little about electronic component markings..
        What is printed on the shorted out diode?
        Never stop learning
        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

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        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

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        • bodh
          New Member
          • Feb 2016
          • 4
          • USA

          #24
          Re: Sceptre X405BV-FHD3HF02205 no power

          MBR5200 OEC(manufacturer's symbol?) 2159. It looks to be a Schottky rectifier diode with a 200v and 5a rating.. I found 10 packs to be expected mid-march as an offshore option, just not sure if i could source a compatible item sooner.

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          • budm
            Badcaps Legend
            • Feb 2010
            • 40746
            • USA

            #25
            Re: Sceptre X405BV-FHD3HF02205 no power

            Mouser does not stock MBR5200 either.
            You can contact DIGIKEY or Mouser to get the sub for it.
            Never stop learning
            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

            Inverter testing using old CFL:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

            TV Factory reset codes listing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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            • bodh
              New Member
              • Feb 2016
              • 4
              • USA

              #26
              Re: Sceptre X405BV-FHD3HF02205 no power

              Thank You budm. Can I ask how you've learned so much? You an electronics tech or something? I don't know how you knew to go right to the big filter capacitor and work from there!

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              • bodh
                New Member
                • Feb 2016
                • 4
                • USA

                #27
                Re: Sceptre X405BV-FHD3HF02205 no power

                For anyone else that finds this and has the same issue, digikey was able to recommend a sr5200 schottky rectifier diode. It appears to have fixed the issue, as the tv is functional again, and the material cost was about $.64.

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                • budm
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 40746
                  • USA

                  #28
                  Re: Sceptre X405BV-FHD3HF02205 no power

                  Thanks for the follow-up on the repair, glad that it was a simple repair.
                  Never stop learning
                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                  • dnixon
                    Member
                    • Dec 2015
                    • 18
                    • usa

                    #29
                    Re: Sceptre X405BV-FHD3HF02205 no power

                    Finally got a new diode. Took almost 2 weeks. Out of stock plus delivery time. Anyway, got it replaced and TV works! Thanks to budm and vinceroger69 for all the help.

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                    • plbrand
                      Member
                      • Jun 2016
                      • 12
                      • United States of America

                      #30
                      Re: Sceptre X405BV-FHD3HF02205 no power

                      Hey guys, I have this exact Sceptre X405BV-FHD3HF02205 TV with the exact same boards. In my case, the red standby light comes on when the unit is plugged in, but nothing else. No picture, no sound, no blue light. The standby light does not change when the remote or the side panel power button are pushed. The diodes, including D10 seem good as they read normal with my DMM and none are shorted. A careful study of the caps doesn't show any obviously failed caps. I unplugged and replugged every connector on all the boards - but no joy.

                      Also, I checked the fuse on the power supply board - it's good. But I don't get the 165VDC across the legs of the big cap C51. On the 600VDC scale, it reads 385, which I don't understand. On the 200VDC scale, it reads 198 momentarily, then nothing.

                      I'm new to badcaps and appreciate the help you offer us amateurs. Thank you, Paul

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                      • budm
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 40746
                        • USA

                        #31
                        Re: Sceptre X405BV-FHD3HF02205 no power

                        Originally posted by plbrand
                        Hey guys, I have this exact Sceptre X405BV-FHD3HF02205 TV with the exact same boards. In my case, the red standby light comes on when the unit is plugged in, but nothing else. No picture, no sound, no blue light. The standby light does not change when the remote or the side panel power button are pushed. The diodes, including D10 seem good as they read normal with my DMM and none are shorted. A careful study of the caps doesn't show any obviously failed caps. I unplugged and replugged every connector on all the boards - but no joy.

                        Also, I checked the fuse on the power supply board - it's good. But I don't get the 165VDC across the legs of the big cap C51. On the 600VDC scale, it reads 385, which I don't understand. On the 200VDC scale, it reads 198 momentarily, then nothing.

                        I'm new to badcaps and appreciate the help you offer us amateurs. Thank you, Paul
                        it is showing 385VDC between the two legs of the main filter cap which means that the power supply board is getting the PS-ON from the main board. That Voltage should be at 160vdc when the TV is turned off, but if the main board is bad and has stuck ON PS-ON signal so the power supply will stay on and does not go off.
                        We need good clear pictures of YOUR whole backside of the TV that shows all the board, and then the pictures of the whole power supply board top side and bottom side of the board, closed up pictures of the connectors of the power supply board so we can read the pin labels.
                        Never stop learning
                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                        • plbrand
                          Member
                          • Jun 2016
                          • 12
                          • United States of America

                          #32
                          Re: Sceptre X405BV-FHD3HF02205 no power

                          Thanks very much for the prompt response. I won't be able to take the photos until tomorrow, but will post them as soon as I can.

                          Again, thank you for your help.

                          Paul

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                          • plbrand
                            Member
                            • Jun 2016
                            • 12
                            • United States of America

                            #33
                            Re: Sceptre X405BV-FHD3HF02205 no power

                            Well, I found time this afternoon, so here are the photos of the PS Board Top/Bottom, connectors, other boards and entire back of TV. I hope they are adequate, please let me know if you need more.

                            Thanks again,

                            Paul
                            Attached Files

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                            • dick_barton
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Aug 2015
                              • 6643
                              • Wales

                              #34
                              Re: Sceptre X405BV-FHD3HF02205 no power

                              What voltages do you have on Con2 & Con4 when you power up?
                              Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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                              • plbrand
                                Member
                                • Jun 2016
                                • 12
                                • United States of America

                                #35
                                Re: Sceptre X405BV-FHD3HF02205 no power

                                That will have to wait 'til tomorrow. How should I measure these voltages?

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                                • dick_barton
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Aug 2015
                                  • 6643
                                  • Wales

                                  #36
                                  Re: Sceptre X405BV-FHD3HF02205 no power

                                  Meter black lead to chassis. Push red lead probe into top of the connector to measure. Or use a thin piece of wire attached to the red probe to push into the top of the connector. Meter set to DV volts. Connectors have Pin1, 2,3, etc.
                                  So if you could tablulate the results something like:-

                                  CON4
                                  Pin Legend Reading


                                  Pin 1 (GND) = 0V
                                  PIn 2 (+5V) = ??
                                  Pin 3 (+12V) = ??
                                  etc
                                  Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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                                  • plbrand
                                    Member
                                    • Jun 2016
                                    • 12
                                    • United States of America

                                    #37
                                    Re: Sceptre X405BV-FHD3HF02205 no power

                                    Okay, attached are connector pin voltages to ground for Conn 4, 3, 2 on the corner of the power supply board. The orientation is such that the edge of the board is toward the top.

                                    Hope this helps!

                                    Paul
                                    Attached Files

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                                    • vinceroger69
                                      Badcaps Legend
                                      • Mar 2012
                                      • 6714
                                      • uk

                                      #38
                                      Re: Sceptre X405BV-FHD3HF02205 no power

                                      just by the connectors there a oblong box with what readings that connector should have and what each pin does can you add these too your word document so we can see what the voltages and pins should read etc.

                                      edit just saw you can read them in picture 5 but if you can add them too it may help thanks
                                      Last edited by vinceroger69; 06-08-2016, 03:24 PM.

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                                      • plbrand
                                        Member
                                        • Jun 2016
                                        • 12
                                        • United States of America

                                        #39
                                        Re: Sceptre X405BV-FHD3HF02205 no power

                                        Okay, I added the box printed on the PS board with the expected values in the individual boxes and my readings below. Hope this helps.

                                        Paul
                                        Attached Files

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                                        • dick_barton
                                          Badcaps Legend
                                          • Aug 2015
                                          • 6643
                                          • Wales

                                          #40
                                          Re: Sceptre X405BV-FHD3HF02205 no power

                                          Hello Paul,
                                          There are several other connectors to be identified that would help to solve your problem if the voltages were known. I've marked them in red boxes.
                                          Attached Files
                                          Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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