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  • gdawg
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2012
    • 170
    • USA

    #1

    Samsung ln46c630 no back light

    Hi all, I have a ln46c630 Samsung with no back light. I have read all the posts on similar models and have replaced caps on power supply, Have tried unplugging mainboard which should turn on back lights and have snipped the jumper for flickering issues. All the posts have all gone as far as I have but nobody replied to what actually fixed it. I like to fix on component level and I believe its the power supply as I cant even hear any hum from the transformers. All voltages seem ok. I dont have a camera presently but the other posts have pictures of the same. Any help would be appreciated. I dont know if the other tv's on other posts got repaired or if they scrapped them. Thanks
  • Alastair E
    Chief Womble
    • Mar 2013
    • 1963
    • U.K.

    #2
    Re: Samsung ln46c630 no back light

    Well--IF all the voltages are OK--Its Unlikely to be the PSU...

    A picture of the BL Board and PSU could help....
    TELEFIX

    How PLASMA SCREENS WORK, X-SUS and Y-SUS what they do--
    http://www.irf.com/technical-info/appnotes/an-1088.pdf
    PLEASE DO NOT EMAIL ME PRIVATELY FOR REPAIR ADVICE. QUESTIONS BELONG ON THE FORUM!

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    • nicholas1110
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2012
      • 127
      • usa

      #3
      Re: Samsung ln46c630 no back light

      Hi, check fuse fs802s, if that fuse is good then it is most likely capacitor right above the fuse ci818. I have had to replace many of these capacitors on samsung power supplies. Hope this helps.

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      • budm
        Badcaps Legend
        • Feb 2010
        • 40746
        • USA

        #4
        Re: Samsung ln46c630 no back light

        Is this the power supply/inverter board used in your TV?
        http://www.shopjimmy.com/catalogsear...msung+ln46c630
        Never stop learning
        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

        Inverter testing using old CFL:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

        TV Factory reset codes listing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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        • gdawg
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2012
          • 170
          • USA

          #5
          Re: Samsung ln46c630 no back light

          Thanks for the responses. I will ck that cap nicholas1110 and thanks for the tip.
          I have fixed probably 50 flat screen lcd's and plasma's and have gotten a lot of great info from this forum, so thanks again, I will report my findings, Gary

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          • gdawg
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2012
            • 170
            • USA

            #6
            Re: Samsung ln46c630 no back light

            Sorry budm, I cant pull up the board while I am at work, but I know its a bn44-00341b
            Last edited by gdawg; 03-26-2015, 01:11 PM.

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            • gdawg
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2012
              • 170
              • USA

              #7
              Re: Samsung ln46c630 no back light

              Just an update- I replaced the c1818 cap as per suggestion by nicholas1110 and everything is fine. i got it thru Mouser. Thanks, and another tv saved!!!!

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              • sputnikoff
                Badcaps Veteran
                • Feb 2016
                • 203
                • canada

                #8
                Re: Samsung ln46c630 no back light

                I have similar issue with this tv .I had main fuse blown.After replacing one of those blue caps blown apart(Probe pic indicates which one) and shorted mosfet 13mn60n(Probe pic)
                The backlight come on for a second or so and goes off.
                Attached Files

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                • nomoresonys
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 12206
                  • U.S.

                  #9
                  Re: Samsung ln46c630 no back light

                  So what exactly blew apart, the fuse, CP820 or CI18?
                  Quit because THIS SITE LETS A ROGUE MEMBER TYPE ANY GARBAGE HE PLEASES AND THE POWERS THAT BE NEVER DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT SO HE NEVER QUITS. THEN YOU GET A PENALTY FOR RESPONDING TO HIS ATTACKS. BEEN GOING ON FOR WAY TOO LONG. DONE SUPPORTING A SITE THAT ALLOWS THIS BS.

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                  • sputnikoff
                    Badcaps Veteran
                    • Feb 2016
                    • 203
                    • canada

                    #10
                    Re: Samsung ln46c630 no back light

                    Blue cap blew cp820 and mosfet . I don't know value of cap above fuse c1818 however it looks fine,not shorted.
                    Attached Files

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                    • nomoresonys
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 12206
                      • U.S.

                      #11
                      Re: Samsung ln46c630 no back light

                      Can't always tell by looking, need a meter capable of testing capacitance to know for sure. If you used same type fuse, seems like short/over voltage issue. Is there a schematic for the power board? or trace out from the fuse testing everything along the way.
                      Last edited by nomoresonys; 05-19-2018, 04:44 PM.
                      Quit because THIS SITE LETS A ROGUE MEMBER TYPE ANY GARBAGE HE PLEASES AND THE POWERS THAT BE NEVER DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT SO HE NEVER QUITS. THEN YOU GET A PENALTY FOR RESPONDING TO HIS ATTACKS. BEEN GOING ON FOR WAY TOO LONG. DONE SUPPORTING A SITE THAT ALLOWS THIS BS.

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                      • sputnikoff
                        Badcaps Veteran
                        • Feb 2016
                        • 203
                        • canada

                        #12
                        Re: Samsung ln46c630 no back light

                        Know where get schematic

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                        • sputnikoff
                          Badcaps Veteran
                          • Feb 2016
                          • 203
                          • canada

                          #13
                          Re: Samsung ln46c630 no back light

                          the value of c1818 is 450 nf on my cap meter.

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                          • budm
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 40746
                            • USA

                            #14
                            Re: Samsung ln46c630 no back light

                            So the parts in the PFC Voltage booster blew up and you replaced the blown parts, but are you now getting 380 ~ 400 VDC between the two legs of the main filter cap when the TV is turned on?

                            Power supply/inverter board: BN44-00341B.
                            This board is know for having low PFC Voltage and causes the backlights to flicker, the problem is caused by bad resistor network int he PFC Voltage feedback, but some people fix it the wrong by by cutting jumper J852 which defeat the LOW PFC Voltage shutdown protection circuit.
                            CI818 also goes bad and will have low capacitance and some time you can see it bulging on its side.

                            https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...ht=BN44-00341B
                            Last edited by budm; 05-19-2018, 09:07 PM.
                            Never stop learning
                            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                            Inverter testing using old CFL:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                            TV Factory reset codes listing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                            • sputnikoff
                              Badcaps Veteran
                              • Feb 2016
                              • 203
                              • canada

                              #15
                              Re: Samsung ln46c630 no back light

                              I will check and get back to you.And i don't think im getting that 380-400vdc.

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                              • nomoresonys
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Jan 2013
                                • 12206
                                • U.S.

                                #16
                                Re: Samsung ln46c630 no back light

                                If your voltage isn't getting the 380-400 or so, try replacing those four resistors that nelic6 did, with same value ones he used, it's post #22 of the link budm gives in post #14, looks like that fixed it.
                                Quit because THIS SITE LETS A ROGUE MEMBER TYPE ANY GARBAGE HE PLEASES AND THE POWERS THAT BE NEVER DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT SO HE NEVER QUITS. THEN YOU GET A PENALTY FOR RESPONDING TO HIS ATTACKS. BEEN GOING ON FOR WAY TOO LONG. DONE SUPPORTING A SITE THAT ALLOWS THIS BS.

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                                • sputnikoff
                                  Badcaps Veteran
                                  • Feb 2016
                                  • 203
                                  • canada

                                  #17
                                  Re: Samsung ln46c630 no back light

                                  Yes bud checked voltage lamps come on for a sec voltage goes from 165vdc to 159vdc ,then back to 163vdc.voltage taken at cp803 with negative on bridge-.power supply never goes to full voltage.
                                  Last edited by sputnikoff; 05-20-2018, 01:20 PM.

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                                  • sputnikoff
                                    Badcaps Veteran
                                    • Feb 2016
                                    • 203
                                    • canada

                                    #18
                                    Re: Samsung ln46c630 no back light

                                    i guess i will remove power supply and bench test to see if its being loaded down.

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                                    • jason123
                                      Badcaps Legend
                                      • Oct 2015
                                      • 1069
                                      • USA

                                      #19
                                      Re: Samsung ln46c630 no back light

                                      Gents, sorry hijacking this thread.. but anyone know where to buy this Ci818? My meter is reading 0 on the capacitance, so I'm assuming it needs to be replaced. Thanks

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                                      • R_J
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Jun 2012
                                        • 9555
                                        • Canada

                                        #20
                                        Re: Samsung ln46c630 no back light

                                        I show CI818 as 0.47uf 450v, you can get one from digikey
                                        PCF1574-ND
                                        Last edited by R_J; 06-17-2018, 01:02 PM.

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