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  • Cyklopz
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    • Mar 2015
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    #1

    Vizio vt420m - Powers up/down and logo on screen but no picture/sound from inputs

    Hello folks,

    I've been reading through threads on the Vizio vt420m TV and general troubleshooting and would like some input on what I've found so far. In checking the voltage regulators on the main board I think I've found two that are not putting out correctly. One VR does appear to be correct. Should I just try replacing the two that seem bad or should I check other components given the current level of functionality that the set has (read below)?

    I can power on the set either from the remote or from the side controls. It will power up and show the Vizio logo on the screen so back-light is definitely on. I can also power off the set either from the remote or from the side controls. I've tried several of the reset procedures; holding buttons, powering on/off and unplugging (even overnight). None of those changes the current behavior.

    I've looked online for replacement main boards but it would seem that for this model they are all gone. I did find one place that was mentioned in a YouTube video that will let you send in your board and they will either repair it or send you a used replacement and I might try that route if I can't find and fix the issue myself.

    Please let me know if any further information would be helpful or other pictures/angles are needed. The pictures attached are not great but do show U701, U702 and U103 on the main board and I think U702 and U103 might be bad.

    EDIT: FYI, looking at the boards does not seem to show any blown caps or obvious brown/black marks that might indicate further issues.

    EDIT2: I did try cooling the VRs with compress air to see if the TV would fully turn on but no joy at U701 or U702. Did not try U103.

    U701 - Not sure
    0
    9.03
    11.89

    U702 - Bad?
    0
    1.88
    3.28

    U103 - Bad?
    0
    4.01
    4.98

    Thanks folks!

    Chris
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    Last edited by Cyklopz; 03-14-2015, 04:13 PM.
  • CapLeaker
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    • Dec 2014
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    #2
    Re: Vizio vt420m - Powers up/down and logo on screen but no picture/sound from inputs

    These measurements have not much meaning, if we don't know the pin out with it. Also maybe you are able to identify the numbers marked on the regulators. The board pics, aren't that great, make head on shots from the top straight down. If you can't see details on the pic, we can't either.

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    • Cyklopz
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      #3
      Re: Vizio vt420m - Powers up/down and logo on screen but no picture/sound from inputs

      Here are some close-ups of the three VRs on the main board that I have tested with their readings.

      Please see attached pics.

      Thanks.

      EDIT: I did test the voltages coming out of the power board and all rails checked out OK. (5v, 12v, 24v x 2)

      Chris
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      Last edited by Cyklopz; 03-15-2015, 02:13 PM.

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      • budm
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        • Feb 2010
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        #4
        Re: Vizio vt420m - Powers up/down and logo on screen but no picture/sound from inputs

        U701: 78xx series, this one is 9V regulator so it is OK.

        U702: You need to zoom out a little bit so I can what are connected to pin 1 and pin 2.

        U103 5V 5A LDO does mot look right, the input is too low, it should be at least = 5V + 1.5V= 7.5V at the input pin.
        Attached Files
        Never stop learning
        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

        Inverter testing using old CFL:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

        TV Factory reset codes listing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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        • CapLeaker
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          #5
          Re: Vizio vt420m - Powers up/down and logo on screen but no picture/sound from inputs

          U103 is not right. U102 I think is a 3.3v regulator, so it sounds about right and u101 is fine.

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          • Cyklopz
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            • Mar 2015
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            #6
            Re: Vizio vt420m - Powers up/down and logo on screen but no picture/sound from inputs

            Here is that half of the main board showing U702.

            See attached.

            Chris
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            • budm
              Badcaps Legend
              • Feb 2010
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              #7
              Re: Vizio vt420m - Powers up/down and logo on screen but no picture/sound from inputs

              Originally posted by Cyklopz
              Here is that half of the main board showing U702.

              See attached.

              Chris
              "U702 - Bad?
              0
              1.88
              3.28"

              So the reading you have shown as 1.8v on the center pin (big tab)? and the left pin is 0V, then it is 1.8V regulator.
              But the picture shows as:1.88, ??, 3.28.
              https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...1&d=1426450230
              Last edited by budm; 03-16-2015, 01:44 PM.
              Never stop learning
              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

              Inverter testing using old CFL:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

              TV Factory reset codes listing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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              • Cyklopz
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                • Mar 2015
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                #8
                Re: Vizio vt420m - Powers up/down and logo on screen but no picture/sound from inputs

                The close-up pic in post #3 shows the pin readings for all three VRs. The text in my post is just incorrect formatting, sorry.

                Chris

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                • CapLeaker
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                  #9
                  Re: Vizio vt420m - Powers up/down and logo on screen but no picture/sound from inputs

                  what was your GND reference point?
                  since there is a voltage difference of 1.5V on U702 between in and out, it is ok. I think I had the 3.3V stuck in my head from the pdf.
                  Last edited by CapLeaker; 03-16-2015, 05:17 PM.

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                  • Cyklopz
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                    • Mar 2015
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                    #10
                    Re: Vizio vt420m - Powers up/down and logo on screen but no picture/sound from inputs

                    I tested against the big tab at the back.

                    Chris

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                    • Cyklopz
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                      #11
                      Re: Vizio vt420m - Powers up/down and logo on screen but no picture/sound from inputs

                      So u103 might be the only bad VR?

                      Chris
                      Last edited by Cyklopz; 03-16-2015, 06:44 PM.

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                      • budm
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 40746
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: Vizio vt420m - Powers up/down and logo on screen but no picture/sound from inputs

                        "I tested against the big tab at the back. "
                        you use the big tab of the IC U103 for GND? You shpuld use the chassis as the GND ref for your meter.
                        Please read post 4 again.
                        Never stop learning
                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                        • Cyklopz
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                          • Mar 2015
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                          #13
                          Re: Vizio vt420m - Powers up/down and logo on screen but no picture/sound from inputs

                          I'll test again to double check the readings.

                          Chris

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                          • CapLeaker
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                            • Dec 2014
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                            #14
                            Re: Vizio vt420m - Powers up/down and logo on screen but no picture/sound from inputs

                            Originally posted by Cyklopz
                            I tested against the big tab at the back.

                            Chris
                            That's what I thought, since the voltages measured were kind of on the wrong pin on some.

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