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  • KevinCro
    Senior Member
    • May 2014
    • 104
    • United States

    #1

    Hitachi P50V701 blowing capacitors

    Hello All. I have a Hitachi plasma that is blowing capacitors. I have a picture of the capacitors attached. This is a new capacitor that I just installed. I replaced the y buffers and that allowed the tv to turn on and stay on. After the tv is on for a few minutes, the screen starts to fade and then boom!! Any ideas?
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  • budm
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2010
    • 40746
    • USA

    #2
    Re: Hitachi P50V701 blowing capacitors

    Voltage is too high, or wrong polarity?
    Never stop learning
    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

    Inverter testing using old CFL:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

    TV Factory reset codes listing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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    • KevinCro
      Senior Member
      • May 2014
      • 104
      • United States

      #3
      Re: Hitachi P50V701 blowing capacitors

      The new capacitors have negative black written on them. What does that mean? All the other labeling is identical to the original capacitors

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      • KevinCro
        Senior Member
        • May 2014
        • 104
        • United States

        #4
        Re: Hitachi P50V701 blowing capacitors

        Also, I'm afraid to test the board while the tv is on. That capacitor literally exploded. Is there a way to minimize the risk?

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        • budm
          Badcaps Legend
          • Feb 2010
          • 40746
          • USA

          #5
          Re: Hitachi P50V701 blowing capacitors

          Originally posted by KevinCro
          The new capacitors have negative black written on them. What does that mean? All the other labeling is identical to the original capacitors
          It is polarized capacitor (positive leg and negative leg) so you have to make sure negative leg of the cap goes into the hole of the circuit board is for negative, positive leg goes to the positive hole on the board.
          Remove the cap and show us good clear picture of where the cap goes to, there should be big white band close to one of the two holes on the board for the cap.
          is this the first time you do the cap replacement?
          Never stop learning
          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

          Inverter testing using old CFL:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

          TV Factory reset codes listing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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          • KevinCro
            Senior Member
            • May 2014
            • 104
            • United States

            #6
            Re: Hitachi P50V701 blowing capacitors

            This is the second time I've replaced that cap. The first cap almost blew as well, but I thought it was because i ran the tv for too long with the lower buffer board removed. The tv was probably on for 4 minutes or so. I found a picture of the board online and made sure that my negative leads were in the right hole. My guess is that there is a bad component on the ysus. I'll pull it and check it over. Thanks for the help.

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            • budm
              Badcaps Legend
              • Feb 2010
              • 40746
              • USA

              #7
              Re: Hitachi P50V701 blowing capacitors

              If the cap is put in correctly then it must be the Voltage problem that caused the cap to blow like that.
              Never stop learning
              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

              Inverter testing using old CFL:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

              TV Factory reset codes listing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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              • Shinju
                Badcaps Legend
                • Mar 2014
                • 1239
                • USA

                #8
                Re: Hitachi P50V701 blowing capacitors

                I have this exact panel, and I have ran it without the lower buffer board for almost an hour testing voltsges and never blew a cap.

                What are your va/vs voltsges?

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                • KevinCro
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2014
                  • 104
                  • United States

                  #9
                  Re: Hitachi P50V701 blowing capacitors

                  I can't find the test points. Does this board have any? Again I am afraid to be very close to the board while it is powered.

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                  • Shinju
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Mar 2014
                    • 1239
                    • USA

                    #10
                    Re: Hitachi P50V701 blowing capacitors

                    I was using the va/vs on the harness to check. My voltages are way high but my DMM was found to be defective so I need to retake them with my new fluke.

                    http://assets.shopjimmy.com/media/ca...2202-top_1.jpg

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                    • KevinCro
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2014
                      • 104
                      • United States

                      #11
                      Re: Hitachi P50V701 blowing capacitors

                      The Vs Voltage was 86 and the VA was 62

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                      • Shinju
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Mar 2014
                        • 1239
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: Hitachi P50V701 blowing capacitors

                        Is that with both buffers running? how about just the top or bottom?

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                        • KevinCro
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2014
                          • 104
                          • United States

                          #13
                          Re: Hitachi P50V701 blowing capacitors

                          Those readings are with both buffers running. The first cap blew with the lower buffer removed. Since then, I have replaced both buffer boards. I tested the voltage at the connector on the x board. The voltages were a bit lower than what the panel sticker reads. Is it possible that a component has failed on the psu restricting the flow of the current and causing the capacitor to overload?

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                          • aaronwt6
                            Badcaps Veteran
                            • Apr 2013
                            • 855
                            • US

                            #14
                            Re: Hitachi P50V701 blowing capacitors

                            I wish I could offer some advice, but boy I bet that capacitor was loud. I've blown up some small ones but nothing that size. Even a 470uf at 35v can make one heck of an explosion.

                            I have one of those power supplies sitting here and double checked your polarity and it appears to be correct.

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                            • KevinCro
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2014
                              • 104
                              • United States

                              #15
                              Re: Hitachi P50V701 blowing capacitors

                              I've been studying the circuitry of the psu and the capacitor that keeps blowing appears to be directly downstream from an identical capacitor that is not blowing. Does this mean that the problem is downstream from the blown capacitor? Possibly on another board? I'm lost at this point.

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                              • selldoor
                                Slow Learner
                                • Dec 2010
                                • 7870

                                #16
                                Re: Hitachi P50V701 blowing capacitors

                                WE really need good clear pictures - have you checked for solder bridges that might touch when heated and have you clipped the capacitor leads close to the board - make sure it is not shorting on anything. Are the caps from a reputable source- where?
                                Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                                • KevinCro
                                  Senior Member
                                  • May 2014
                                  • 104
                                  • United States

                                  #17
                                  Re: Hitachi P50V701 blowing capacitors

                                  Here are some pictures of the psu.
                                  Attached Files

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                                  • Shinju
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Mar 2014
                                    • 1239
                                    • USA

                                    #18
                                    Re: Hitachi P50V701 blowing capacitors

                                    If all else fails don't scrap it, coppel tv repair can repair the board. These are not cheap to find to replace.

                                    I wish mine was readily available to help you with. It's kinda buried at the moment!

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                                    • tom66
                                      EVs Rule
                                      • Apr 2011
                                      • 32560
                                      • UK

                                      #19
                                      Re: Hitachi P50V701 blowing capacitors

                                      Could it be a counterfeit capacitor? I've had them before, a 450V one that violently vented on me... it was a "Nihoncon" in exactly the same font as Nichicon!
                                      Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                                      For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                                      • Ltank
                                        Badcaps Veteran
                                        • Jun 2013
                                        • 776
                                        • USA

                                        #20
                                        Re: Hitachi P50V701 blowing capacitors

                                        When board markings are damaged and unable to see. Use your ohm meter and check each pad to chassis ground. Only one of the legs should be grounded and that's the negative lead

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