Vizio e601i-A3 - Has Sound and Display, But No Backlight - Bad Power Supply Board or Bad LED Bulbs ?

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  • x_orange90_x
    Badcaps Veteran
    • May 2015
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    #21
    Originally posted by Tynan Dill

    Replacement board shows no voltages at any of the points referenced in the 1st test.
    Did you check the fuse?

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    • Tynan Dill
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2024
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      #22
      Originally posted by x_orange90_x

      Did you check the fuse?
      How do I check the fuse and where is it located ?

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      • Tynan Dill
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2024
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        #23
        I tested the continuity on the fuse on each board, both read 00.3.

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        • Tynan Dill
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          #24
          If everything is checking out OK with the power board, then the problem is with the LEDs ?

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          • EazyBone
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            • Jun 2023
            • 1356
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            #25
            Originally posted by Tynan Dill
            If everything is checking out OK with the power board, then the problem is with the LEDs ?
            Wait for the tester. Those voltages are only for the main board. There is a different section for the PSU to LEDs. BUT now you can get a full refund and your shipping back for that bad PSU. And likely the PSU wasn't the problem in the first place. But we will wait for tester and it will help. But if you did the test lotas did.. then we looking likely at the LEDs. Will be confirmed soon!

            Glad you took out old PSU.. helps to know

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            • Tynan Dill
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              • Nov 2024
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              #26
              Originally posted by EazyBone

              Wait for the tester. Those voltages are only for the main board. There is a different section for the PSU to LEDs. BUT now you can get a full refund and your shipping back for that bad PSU. And likely the PSU wasn't the problem in the first place. But we will wait for tester and it will help. But if you did the test lotas did.. then we looking likely at the LEDs. Will be confirmed soon!

              Glad you took out old PSU.. helps to know
              Today is the day.

              I found a teardown video for this TV too :
              https://youtu.be/Jma0R8L8Osc?si=m6vJD7RWvXNW0VCW

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              • Tynan Dill
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                • Nov 2024
                • 54
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                #27
                The LED tester gets delivered today.

                What size suction cups should I use for the 60 in panel ? Click image for larger version

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                • Tynan Dill
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                  #28
                  If it isn't the LEDs, what else could it be ?

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                  • EazyBone
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                    • Jun 2023
                    • 1356
                    • United states

                    #29
                    Did you test them? I use the double suctions from harbor freight. They like $8 each. Can't go wrong with the bigger the better
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                    • Tynan Dill
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                      • Nov 2024
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by EazyBone
                      Did you test them? I use the double suctions from harbor freight. They like $8 each. Can't go wrong with the bigger the better
                      No the latest that the Amazon package is going to get delivered today is 5:30 or later. Could be as early as 2:30.

                      How many of those double sections do you use ?

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                      • EazyBone
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                        • Jun 2023
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                        #31
                        One for each hand. Use them up to 86 inch TVs.
                        ​​​​​​

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                        • Tynan Dill
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                          • Nov 2024
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                          #32
                          Originally posted by EazyBone

                          Wait for the tester. Those voltages are only for the main board. There is a different section for the PSU to LEDs. BUT now you can get a full refund and your shipping back for that bad PSU. And likely the PSU wasn't the problem in the first place. But we will wait for tester and it will help. But if you did the test lotas did.. then we looking likely at the LEDs. Will be confirmed soon!

                          Glad you took out old PSU.. helps to know
                          OK I got the tester. When I plug it up it shows 300.

                          Do I reconnect all the LED connector to the power board and plug it up or power it on or leave everything disconnected ?

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                          • Tynan Dill
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2024
                            • 54
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                            #33
                            Here are the LED strip test results, LED connecter connected to the replacement Power Board, and TV plugged into the wall...

                            VLED1 1+ and 1- : 96.4

                            VLED1 2+ and 2- : 96.4

                            VLED2 1+ and 1- : 129

                            VLED2 2+ and 2- : 93.2

                            The 129 didn't light up, but the LED strips from the other test points did light up.

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                            • EazyBone
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                              • Jun 2023
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                              #34
                              I said on a earlier post. Test them not connected to the PSU.. it's bad for the PSU. Do the test again on the clip only not connected. BUT it's likely you'd get the same results.

                              Vled 2 93.2 has one led out likely..
                              Vled 129 probably has multiple.

                              Do the test again not connected but it's pretty solid indicator so far

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                              • petehall347
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                                • Jan 2015
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                                #35
                                yep dont have lights plugged in or bad things can happen .dont ask .. be aware the testers say no electrical shock . they dont mention the shock you get when touching the probes . also found that out .

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                                • EazyBone
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                                  • Jun 2023
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                                  #36
                                  Originally posted by petehall347
                                  yep dont have lights plugged in or bad things can happen .dont ask .. be aware the testers say no electrical shock . they dont mention the shock you get when touching the probes . also found that out .
                                  Haha yeah, it's not that bad though.

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                                  • petehall347
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                                    • Jan 2015
                                    • 4440
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                                    #37
                                    Originally posted by EazyBone

                                    Haha yeah, it's not that bad though.
                                    mine must be more shocking than yours . thought there would be burn marks on my hands when it happened . they are pretty crudely made .. mine works well . i also use it for selecting new led voltages against a good old one . sort of finished with tv repairs now because it isnt worth it unless its for myself or family . they have sadly become disposable . check out how fast new ones are being sold . https://www.worldometers.info/
                                    Last edited by petehall347; 11-26-2024, 07:51 PM.

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                                    • x_orange90_x
                                      Badcaps Veteran
                                      • May 2015
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                                      #38
                                      Originally posted by Tynan Dill
                                      Here are the LED strip test results, LED connecter connected to the replacement Power Board, and TV plugged into the wall...

                                      VLED1 1+ and 1- : 96.4

                                      VLED1 2+ and 2- : 96.4

                                      VLED2 1+ and 1- : 129

                                      VLED2 2+ and 2- : 93.2

                                      The 129 didn't light up, but the LED strips from the other test points did light up.
                                      Do NOT plug in the LEDs to the power supply!
                                      All you need to do is plug in the tester, power it on, and touch the red probe to + and black probe to - on a strip. The strip SHOULD light up. Any that don't light up will be dead and will usually trip the circuitry to turn them all off. Also, failing LEDs will usually light up blue in color.
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                                      • Tynan Dill
                                        Senior Member
                                        • Nov 2024
                                        • 54
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                                        #39
                                        Originally posted by EazyBone
                                        I said on a earlier post. Test them not connected to the PSU.. it's bad for the PSU. Do the test again on the clip only not connected. BUT it's likely you'd get the same results.

                                        Vled 2 93.2 has one led out likely..
                                        Vled 129 probably has multiple.

                                        Do the test again not connected but it's pretty solid indicator so far
                                        Correction. I had the LED connector connected to the power board, but the power board wasn't plugged into the AC cord that powers the TV from the wall outlet.

                                        See in this picture how the AC cable and Main Board are disconnected from the PSU ? Click image for larger version

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                                        Only the LED connector is connected to the PSU.

                                        It just made it more easier to do the test then to pin things at the LED wired connector.

                                        Like you said, I'd more than likely get the same results if I pin them at the wired connection. That wasn't any other power being sourced to the LED strips other than the LED tester.

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                                        • Tynan Dill
                                          Senior Member
                                          • Nov 2024
                                          • 54
                                          • United States

                                          #40
                                          Originally posted by x_orange90_x

                                          Do NOT plug in the LEDs to the power supply!
                                          All you need to do is plug in the tester, power it on, and touch the red probe to + and black probe to - on a strip. The strip SHOULD light up. Any that don't light up will be dead and will usually trip the circuitry to turn them all off. Also, failing LEDs will usually light up blue in color.
                                          I don't have the TV tore down yet.

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