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  • MDluffy
    Member
    • Feb 2014
    • 18
    • usa

    #1

    Toshiba LED TV, blank screen

    To all:
    The TV was working fine, just over a year old. Turn it on one day and the screen is blank. Here are some observations. turn on tv, front small power on green light is on, the red toshiba name comes up and can see fine on a dark gray background. the toshiba goes away, and the screen turns from dark gray to black/blank. Can still hear sound, channels work, input selection works, on/off works, but screen is blank. Changed input to dvd (by guessing at the menu choice since screen bland...), same results. TV model is 46L52000U1. I've disconnected from AC (left for hours), and powered up again, same results. Toshiba forums say this is common, with only answer is to see a repair shop....My question is if someone can point me to a specific module or board that might be bad. I'm very willing to open her up and troubleshoot/replace parts. Thanks in advance. MDluffy
  • budm
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2010
    • 40746
    • USA

    #2
    Re: Toshiba LED TV, blank screen

    Please move this post to TV section, and also upload good clear pictures of the boards.
    Never stop learning
    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

    Inverter testing using old CFL:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

    TV Factory reset codes listing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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    • MDluffy
      Member
      • Feb 2014
      • 18
      • usa

      #3
      Re: Toshiba LED TV, blank screen

      My apologies, I thought I had put in the TV section.
      Thank you. Will try to by next weekend. MDluffy

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      • MDluffy
        Member
        • Feb 2014
        • 18
        • usa

        #4
        Re: Toshiba LED TV, blank screen [46L5200U1]

        Here are pictures of the boards. I could not see any obvious vented caps, or other damage. Thank you for any help you can offer. MDluffy
        Attached Files

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        • selldoor
          Slow Learner
          • Dec 2010
          • 7870

          #5
          Re: Toshiba LED TV, blank screen

          If when it has gone dark, in a dull room can you shine a flashlight onto the screen from
          different angles to see if there is still a faint image.
          Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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          • MDluffy
            Member
            • Feb 2014
            • 18
            • usa

            #6
            Re: Toshiba LED TV, blank screen

            After power up, the big red toshiba letters come up fine, and they are on a light gray background (this has never failed...it always shows the red toshiba). After a few seconds the toshiba goes away, the gray turns to dark black. Used a flashlight and could not see any faint image or grayness at all...

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            • freakaftr8
              Badcaps Legend
              • Oct 2012
              • 3743
              • USA

              #7
              Re: Toshiba LED TV, blank screen

              Try heating the tcon board up underneath the metal cover.
              Did I leave the soldering iron on?

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              • selldoor
                Slow Learner
                • Dec 2010
                • 7870

                #8
                Re: Toshiba LED TV, blank screen

                Try unplugging the leads that go from the Main board to the Tcon and see if the
                backlight leds stay on.
                Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                • MDluffy
                  Member
                  • Feb 2014
                  • 18
                  • usa

                  #9
                  Re: Toshiba LED TV, blank screen

                  Heating up - used hair dryer to heat up the TCON, I did not remove the metal section as it looks rather tricky to re-assemble, but pointed the dryer down the side. Seemed like good bit of warmth getting in there; No change in symptoms.
                  Unplugging main board leads - the toshiba logo did not come up, but screen did turn gray for a moment as it has been doing, then to black. reconnected leads and toshiba came up as has been, no change in symptoms.

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                  • tom66
                    EVs Rule
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 32560
                    • UK

                    #10
                    Re: Toshiba LED TV, blank screen

                    It sounds like a firmware/software problem to me, which would probably require replacing the main board. However, there's a small chance you can fix the firmware with a USB update. Try downloading the latest update from Toshiba and putting it on a USB stick. Hopefully it has a method like "hold OK button while turning on" to update, rather than having to do it through the menus (which you can't access.)
                    Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                    For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                    • MDluffy
                      Member
                      • Feb 2014
                      • 18
                      • usa

                      #11
                      Re: Toshiba LED TV, blank screen

                      Thanks, will give it a try and report back. MDLuffy

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                      • MDluffy
                        Member
                        • Feb 2014
                        • 18
                        • usa

                        #12
                        Re: Toshiba LED TV, blank screen

                        Hello, I've googled quite a bit and have had no luck finding FW or SW for this model toshiba, 46L5200U1....any ideas on where to look? Thanks!!

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                        • tom66
                          EVs Rule
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 32560
                          • UK

                          #13
                          Re: Toshiba LED TV, blank screen

                          Unfortunately the only place might be Toshiba themselves. They don't always publicly releas the firmware.
                          Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                          For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                          • selldoor
                            Slow Learner
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 7870

                            #14
                            Re: Toshiba LED TV, blank screen

                            https://web1.toshiba.ca/support/ceg/...?docid=D000050

                            This was the FIRST item when I googled it?
                            Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                            • MDluffy
                              Member
                              • Feb 2014
                              • 18
                              • usa

                              #15
                              Re: Toshiba LED TV, blank screen

                              Interesting... I was searching for "46L5200U1" which shows no drivers available, but when I searched "46L5200U" it did show drivers available as you replied. My TV nameplate indicates the U1...I will dig in to see what the difference is, unless someone here knows. Thanks for your patience and assistance. MDluffy

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                              • MDluffy
                                Member
                                • Feb 2014
                                • 18
                                • usa

                                #16
                                Re: Toshiba LED TV, blank screen

                                My bad... the link clearly shows the U1 model! Will try and report back. Thanks.
                                Attached Files

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                                • selldoor
                                  Slow Learner
                                  • Dec 2010
                                  • 7870

                                  #17
                                  Re: Toshiba LED TV, blank screen

                                  Good - hope it works - when I google things I often just skim past the first few items as whilst I believe they are there because of lots of hits they are often just sites that pick on anything you google then give a list of loads of other places to look and dont actually have any info.
                                  Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                                  • MDluffy
                                    Member
                                    • Feb 2014
                                    • 18
                                    • usa

                                    #18
                                    Re: Toshiba LED TV, blank screen

                                    Well, followed the instructions, but since the screen is blank, not really sure if I initiated the load...never saw the light on the USB flicker, couldn't tell from any other observations if it loaded or not. When instructions said to use the right and left arrows to select yes to load, I first just hit enter hoping it defaulted to yes, then again with a single right arrow then enter etc... really didn't get anywhere.
                                    So for heck of it, found a control board on ebay. $43usd, free shipping... Figure that the picture circuitry could be working since we are seeing the red toshiba and gray momentarily. Maybe something is telling the screen to go blank, or not telling it to turn on.... Anyway, will install and report back to all. Thanks, MDluffy

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                                    • MDluffy
                                      Member
                                      • Feb 2014
                                      • 18
                                      • usa

                                      #19
                                      Re: Toshiba LED TV, blank screen

                                      Got the control board. Only challenge swapping out was the disconnecting and reconnecting of the connectors....Need to take great care and not tug on wires. CN11 the small ribbon cable for touch keypad is tiny! and very difficult...with some assistance, finally got them swapped. No change in symptoms Moving on to TCON replacement, just purchased on ebay $19... Will keep you posted.
                                      MDluffy
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                                      • MDluffy
                                        Member
                                        • Feb 2014
                                        • 18
                                        • usa

                                        #20
                                        Re: Toshiba LED TV, blank screen

                                        Finally found more time to experiment... to no avail... current status - same symptoms (after red Toshiba, screen goes from gray to black/blank); changed both main computer board and tcon with no change in symptoms....

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