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  • charlierfc
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2013
    • 93
    • scotland

    #1

    samsung le32s86bd main board or psu fault?

    Hi everybody hope you are all well.

    ok, i have a samsung le32s86bdx/xeu here,(not the model i stated on the title! i missed a bit)
    When i first turned on the set it powered as i should, the picture was fine backlight fine ect, then after about 30 sec the picture started to brake up, the back light started flickering untill the backlight went out.
    Now when i power on the set i get the sound from the speakers for a bit but no backlight.The tv cycles from standby to on with no backlight to off and again continuous.

    After opening the set i see no bad caps(looks like they have been previously tested as the tops are marked with a pen!)

    iv checked the outputs from psu, they seem fine,well maybe a bit high as the power to inverter is 27.7 not the 24 stated.

    Im wondering, would this mean the main board is at fault? or is the higher reading from the psu causing the fault?
    Any ideas?
    thanks in advance, Charlie.
    Last edited by charlierfc; 01-08-2014, 03:24 PM. Reason: missed the rest of model number
  • anotherdude
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Feb 2013
    • 488
    • uk

    #2
    Re: samsung le32s86bd main board or psu fault?

    try giving the main board some heat with a hair dryer near the shielded area

    sounds similar to what i've had previously

    or wait for others to chime in, as i'm not as clued up as them but a small ammount of heat won't do any harm
    Last edited by anotherdude; 01-08-2014, 03:23 PM.

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    • charlierfc
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2013
      • 93
      • scotland

      #3
      Re: samsung le32s86bd main board or psu fault?

      Good idea, ill give it a go. maybe some small caps on the main boad.iv not inspected fully as the battery on my cap tester and multi meter low and dont want to give false readings

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      • charlierfc
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2013
        • 93
        • scotland

        #4
        Re: samsung le32s86bd main board or psu fault?

        ok. im having a steady 27.3 v to the inverterboad yet the backlight remains off.
        I have visually inspected the transformers they look ok, iv checked the small fuses they test ok.
        ill fully test tomorrow when i have fresh batterys.

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        • budm
          Badcaps Legend
          • Feb 2010
          • 40746
          • USA

          #5
          Re: samsung le32s86bd main board or psu fault?

          Post good clear pictures of the boards, model number of the power supply board BN-XXXXX????
          Also check your batteries of your meter, when batt is low, the meter read out will be higher than normal . The backlights will not come on until the inverter gets the BL_ON (or INV ON) from the main board. You can try disconnecting the cable between the power supply and the main board to see if the backlights will come on, it may have built-in pull up resistors on the power supply board.
          Last edited by budm; 01-08-2014, 03:44 PM.
          Never stop learning
          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

          Inverter testing using old CFL:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
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          TV Factory reset codes listing:
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          • tom66
            EVs Rule
            • Apr 2011
            • 32560
            • UK

            #6
            Re: samsung le32s86bd main board or psu fault?

            Many backlight inverters have an over voltage circuit which engages after about 26V to shut off the inverter.
            Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
            For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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            • charlierfc
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2013
              • 93
              • scotland

              #7
              Re: samsung le32s86bd main board or psu fault?

              OK-
              The reading i get from the rail from psu, leading to the main board (after fresh battery in meter!)

              1 n/c actual 0.0
              2 13v " 12.2
              3 13v 12.2
              4 gnd 0.0
              5 5.3 5.2
              6 5.3 5.2
              7 5.3 0.0
              8 5.3 0.0
              9 gnd 12.0
              10 gnd 0.0
              11 gnd 5.2
              12 12v 3.4

              these readings seem odd where ground is getting 12v?
              im wondering, is whats printed onm the psu what is ment to be coming out that rail?
              Last edited by charlierfc; 01-09-2014, 03:33 PM. Reason: wrong reading

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              • selldoor
                Slow Learner
                • Dec 2010
                • 7870

                #8
                Re: samsung le32s86bd main board or psu fault?

                What did you get on the 24v connector

                What are you using as ground- should be a ground screw
                Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                • charlierfc
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 93
                  • scotland

                  #9
                  Re: samsung le32s86bd main board or psu fault?

                  i was using a spare screw hole on the panel frame.
                  what do you mewan on the 24v connector? to the inverter board? i think it was 24.4 after i put the new batterys in my meter as previously i had 27! my meter was flashing the battery change icon to be fair!

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                  • charlierfc
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 93
                    • scotland

                    #10
                    Re: samsung le32s86bd main board or psu fault?

                    same reading as above using the earth screw with the earth wire attatched.
                    same reading from the inverter 24.4

                    bn41-00879b i think is the main board number
                    Last edited by charlierfc; 01-09-2014, 03:45 PM.

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                    • tom66
                      EVs Rule
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 32560
                      • UK

                      #11
                      Re: samsung le32s86bd main board or psu fault?

                      Unplug the main board, do you get 12V and 13V stable?
                      Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                      For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                      • selldoor
                        Slow Learner
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 7870

                        #12
                        Re: samsung le32s86bd main board or psu fault?

                        Originally posted by charlierfc
                        i was using a spare screw hole on the panel frame.
                        what do you mewan on the 24v connector? to the inverter board? i think it was 24.4 after i put the new batterys in my meter as previously i had 27! my meter was flashing the battery change icon to be fair!
                        Yes that is what I meant - you didnt report the retest with new battery
                        Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                        • budm
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 40746
                          • USA

                          #13
                          Re: samsung le32s86bd main board or psu fault?

                          "1 n/c actual 0.0
                          2 13v " 12.2
                          3 13v 12.2
                          4 gnd 0.0
                          5 5.3 5.2
                          6 5.3 5.2
                          7 5.3 0.0
                          8 5.3 0.0
                          9 gnd 12.0
                          10 gnd 0.0
                          11 gnd 5.2
                          12 12v 3.4"
                          Still not providing us the pictures and the model number of the power supply board.
                          Can we see the pictures of this connector? Is it double-row pin? It is missing the ps_on , bl_on (inv on) label, etc.
                          Last edited by budm; 01-09-2014, 04:43 PM.
                          Never stop learning
                          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                          Inverter testing using old CFL:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                          TV Factory reset codes listing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                          • charlierfc
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 93
                            • scotland

                            #14
                            Re: samsung le32s86bd main board or psu fault?

                            do thewse pics help?
                            ill a\dd more wehwen im back, im getting dragged shopping!
                            Attached Files

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                            • charlierfc
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2013
                              • 93
                              • scotland

                              #15
                              Re: samsung le32s86bd main board or psu fault?

                              Ok, another question...would a faulty tcon cause the backlight to remain off?
                              When the tv was on it worked fine, i moved it thern the screen filled with vertical lines. Now the tv is just cycling again, any help wouild be appreciated

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                              • multimeter
                                Badcaps Veteran
                                • Jan 2011
                                • 739
                                • united kingdom

                                #16
                                Re: samsung le32s86bd main board or psu fault?

                                Originally posted by charlierfc
                                Ok, another question...would a faulty tcon cause the backlight to remain off?
                                When the tv was on it worked fine, i moved it thern the screen filled with vertical lines. Now the tv is just cycling again, any help wouild be appreciated
                                no,you would just have a white screen,from the backlights with no tcon

                                reseat the ribbons on the tcon and mainboard
                                fixed so far...376 lg lcd tv's,24 onn tv;s,24 panasonic lcd,16 jvc lcd,12 marshall jcm800 amps,refurb of various disco equipment lighting,old style disco decks ,and a flymo!

                                ----------------------------------------------
                                please let us know if everything works ok if your tv gets fixed, as it will be and aid for anyone else having the same problem and wishing to fix it.it would save people clogging up this site with topics that are duplicated,and can be found easily using the search function.,and taking up valuable space.enjoy your fixed tv!,hopefully!

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                                • charlierfc
                                  Senior Member
                                  • Mar 2013
                                  • 93
                                  • scotland

                                  #17
                                  Re: samsung le32s86bd main board or psu fault?

                                  Tv still cycling with no backlight now.
                                  When the tv is cycling i dont have any output from oth b/l output from the psu although the pin next to it called the on/off has a 3.5 the 24v detect also has 5.4

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                                  • charlierfc
                                    Senior Member
                                    • Mar 2013
                                    • 93
                                    • scotland

                                    #18
                                    Re: samsung le32s86bd main board or psu fault?

                                    Ok. The tv has been cycling for 10 min now the backlight has come on. The b/l pin now has 5.2 v.

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                                    • multimeter
                                      Badcaps Veteran
                                      • Jan 2011
                                      • 739
                                      • united kingdom

                                      #19
                                      Re: samsung le32s86bd main board or psu fault?

                                      Originally posted by charlierfc
                                      Ok. The tv has been cycling for 10 min now the backlight has come on. The b/l pin now has 5.2 v.
                                      that sounds like cap issues,have you heated the board to see if the fault dissapears?
                                      fixed so far...376 lg lcd tv's,24 onn tv;s,24 panasonic lcd,16 jvc lcd,12 marshall jcm800 amps,refurb of various disco equipment lighting,old style disco decks ,and a flymo!

                                      ----------------------------------------------
                                      please let us know if everything works ok if your tv gets fixed, as it will be and aid for anyone else having the same problem and wishing to fix it.it would save people clogging up this site with topics that are duplicated,and can be found easily using the search function.,and taking up valuable space.enjoy your fixed tv!,hopefully!

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                                      • charlierfc
                                        Senior Member
                                        • Mar 2013
                                        • 93
                                        • scotland

                                        #20
                                        Re: samsung le32s86bd main board or psu fault?

                                        What board, the psu? Or the main board.
                                        I do have a capacitence tester...and a hair drier lol, but its hard to pin point as it sometimes works strait away. Would a cap problem cause screen distortation? Last time it cam on with bit of yellow distortation allomg the screen. Its fine this time though

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