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  • tom66
    EVs Rule
    • Apr 2011
    • 32560
    • UK

    #61
    Re: no picture on my samsung 50 inch plasma

    Can you check with your black probe on the chassis of the TV, red probe on one end of fuse, then other, and record both readings for us?
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    • jose6326
      Badcaps Veteran
      • May 2013
      • 707
      • USA

      #62
      Re: no picture on my samsung 50 inch plasma

      Tom66 I was speaking with the electronics guy at my job

      He said I put the lead on the wrong ground
      That I should of put the negative lead on the ground of the connector not on chasis ground

      Is this correct?

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      • tom66
        EVs Rule
        • Apr 2011
        • 32560
        • UK

        #63
        Re: no picture on my samsung 50 inch plasma

        It may be correct for some systems but for TVs I've always used the chassis ground and that always works for me. You can wire it to the ground of the connector... but you're going to need a length of wire to do so.
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        • jose6326
          Badcaps Veteran
          • May 2013
          • 707
          • USA

          #64
          Re: no picture on my samsung 50 inch plasma

          Thats exactly what I did

          Negative probe on chasis ground and positive probe on one end of fuse with power on and I got 2.7v

          I will do it again when I get home and I will take a pic

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          • tom66
            EVs Rule
            • Apr 2011
            • 32560
            • UK

            #65
            Re: no picture on my samsung 50 inch plasma

            Check both ends.
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            • jose6326
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              • May 2013
              • 707
              • USA

              #66
              Re: no picture on my samsung 50 inch plasma

              Tom here is what I did

              First 2 pics

              Power on
              Positive probe on one end of fuse negative probe on chasis ground
              Fuse Reading: 4v
              Fuse reading: 3.92v
              Attached Files

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              • jose6326
                Badcaps Veteran
                • May 2013
                • 707
                • USA

                #67
                Re: no picture on my samsung 50 inch plasma

                Here are pics with board disconnected

                Not sure if I tested it correctly on this one
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                • jose6326
                  Badcaps Veteran
                  • May 2013
                  • 707
                  • USA

                  #68
                  Re: no picture on my samsung 50 inch plasma

                  Tom im not sure if this will help

                  on pg 3 in the pdf it looks like it is saying to jumper the connector to the logic board or main board to get the test pattern

                  Am I wrong?
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                  • tom66
                    EVs Rule
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 32560
                    • UK

                    #69
                    Re: no picture on my samsung 50 inch plasma

                    You tested correctly, on the first one. But can you please check the connector on the Y-main side too?
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                    • jose6326
                      Badcaps Veteran
                      • May 2013
                      • 707
                      • USA

                      #70
                      Re: no picture on my samsung 50 inch plasma

                      Tom I got 54v on the ymain board from the connector that goes to the E buffer

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                      • jose6326
                        Badcaps Veteran
                        • May 2013
                        • 707
                        • USA

                        #71
                        Re: no picture on my samsung 50 inch plasma

                        you think it is the E buffer or F buffer board?

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                        • tom66
                          EVs Rule
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 32560
                          • UK

                          #72
                          Re: no picture on my samsung 50 inch plasma

                          If you connect Va to the buffer board, does the Va collapse? Measure the Y-main side.
                          (Don't connect it with power applied to the TV. Allow the TV 10 seconds to discharge before plugging it in.)
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                          • jose6326
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                            • May 2013
                            • 707
                            • USA

                            #73
                            Re: no picture on my samsung 50 inch plasma

                            what do you mean by collapse?

                            right now the tv has been unplugged for a whole day or two

                            you want me to reconnect the connector to the E buffer board
                            then power on the tv
                            then test for VA at the connector on the y main board that goes to the E buffer
                            is this correct?

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                            • tom66
                              EVs Rule
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 32560
                              • UK

                              #74
                              Re: no picture on my samsung 50 inch plasma

                              Collapse = drops to the 3~4V measured previously.

                              What you have said is correct.
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                              • jose6326
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                                • May 2013
                                • 707
                                • USA

                                #75
                                Re: no picture on my samsung 50 inch plasma

                                do you want me to test Va as the tv is being powered on?
                                or it does not matter if it has been powered on then i place the probes at the connector?

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                                • tom66
                                  EVs Rule
                                  • Apr 2011
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                                  #76
                                  Re: no picture on my samsung 50 inch plasma

                                  I want you to measure the Va on the Y-main board end with everything connected.
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                                  • jose6326
                                    Badcaps Veteran
                                    • May 2013
                                    • 707
                                    • USA

                                    #77
                                    Re: no picture on my samsung 50 inch plasma

                                    Tom I tested the va at the ymain as you instructed

                                    I could not take a pic of the reading because I needed both hands to probe the connector since I dont have alligator clips

                                    But I took a pic to show you how I tested it
                                    I got 53.8v for va

                                    I also retested the fuse at both ends with negative probe on chasis ground with powrt to tv and this time I got 53.8v on either end of the fuse

                                    The last time I tested it was 4v

                                    Do you know why it is doing this?
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                                    • tom66
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                                      • Apr 2011
                                      • 32560
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                                      #78
                                      Re: no picture on my samsung 50 inch plasma

                                      You might have a dodgy multimeter lead or the fuse connectors may have been corroded. Since you now have good Va, the control board is a likely suspect, but it's hard to be certain.
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                                      • jose6326
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                                        • May 2013
                                        • 707
                                        • USA

                                        #79
                                        Re: no picture on my samsung 50 inch plasma

                                        So is there anything else to test?

                                        I keep forgetting to mention that the y main is buzzing and it tends to get a low buzz and then goes back to the same level buzzing as it started
                                        Is this normal?

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                                        • tom66
                                          EVs Rule
                                          • Apr 2011
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                                          • UK

                                          #80
                                          Re: no picture on my samsung 50 inch plasma

                                          The scope tests were somewhat inconclusive about Y-main functionality, the waveform did not look quite right.
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