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  • high-tech
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2010
    • 197
    • USA

    #1

    Sanyo DP42849 Backlight Shutsdown

    Classic "2seconds to black"

    Here is what I found: This Inverter Transformer has a shorted secondary winding. It has two secondary windings, the shorted one is 27 ohms and the good one is 2.3K ohms. This powersupply board is not available

    I have searched for a replacement and can't find one in my limited search abilities. Anybody know where I could get one?
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  • selldoor
    Slow Learner
    • Dec 2010
    • 7870

    #2
    Re: Sanyo DP42849 Backlight Shutsdown

    Are you sure it has two secondary windings ? could one be the primary.
    This looks like a big transformer that supplies a series of smaller transformers on an inverter board?
    Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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    • high-tech
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2010
      • 197
      • USA

      #3
      Re: Sanyo DP42849 Backlight Shutsdown

      Yes I'm sure. look just above the transformer and you will see the two plugs where the two backlight harnesses plug into the board.

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      • tom66
        EVs Rule
        • Apr 2011
        • 32560
        • UK

        #4
        Re: Sanyo DP42849 Backlight Shutsdown

        The main secondary on this appears to be between pin 5 and 10, and it has only one such secondary.
        Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
        For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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        • selldoor
          Slow Learner
          • Dec 2010
          • 7870

          #5
          Re: Sanyo DP42849 Backlight Shutsdown

          I remember this one now!! Nightmare thread.
          https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...DP42849&page=1

          Do those "lamp harness" cables go straight to the bulbs or is there another board.
          Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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          • high-tech
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2010
            • 197
            • USA

            #6
            Re: Sanyo DP42849 Backlight Shutsdown

            well I think it is single secondary. and pins 6 and 9 are for the feed back? If this is true my earlier checks that I thought were 2 windings. I ohmed from pins 9 to 10 and got
            2.3k ohms and pins 5 and 6 and got 27 ohms. the 27 ohm reading should be infinite or open.

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            • tom66
              EVs Rule
              • Apr 2011
              • 32560
              • UK

              #7
              Re: Sanyo DP42849 Backlight Shutsdown

              It is single (output) secondary, the other secondary will probably be for monitoring the current.
              Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
              For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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              • high-tech
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2010
                • 197
                • USA

                #8
                Re: Sanyo DP42849 Backlight Shutsdown

                Originally posted by selldoor
                I remember this one now!! Nightmare thread.
                https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...DP42849&page=1

                Do those "lamp harness" cables go straight to the bulbs or is there another board.
                IDK yet, I only got the small inspection cover off. I dont have the whole back off yet, but I looked up parts list @ shopjimmy and there are no other inverter boards listed for this model. So I'm assuming the two harnesses go directly to the bulbs
                Last edited by high-tech; 02-25-2013, 06:32 PM.

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                • high-tech
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 197
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: Sanyo DP42849 Backlight Shutsdown

                  that other secondary for monitoring current is shorted to the main secondary windings by a resistance of 27 ohms between pins 5 and 6. Pins 5 and 10 being main sec and pins 6 and 9 feedback right. so why is pin 5 and 6 got that short? I think its toast
                  Last edited by high-tech; 02-25-2013, 06:38 PM.

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                  • high-tech
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 197
                    • USA

                    #10
                    Re: Sanyo DP42849 Backlight Shutsdown

                    Originally posted by selldoor
                    I remember this one now!! Nightmare thread.
                    https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...DP42849&page=1

                    Do those "lamp harness" cables go straight to the bulbs or is there another board.
                    I read that other thread to brother and thats messed up how it all ended and I think he has the same issue with the inv transformer

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                    • tom66
                      EVs Rule
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 32560
                      • UK

                      #11
                      Re: Sanyo DP42849 Backlight Shutsdown

                      May be a common tie in point, but the isolation gap would make me think otherwise. It would be rare, but not impossible, for such a failure to occur.
                      Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                      For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                      • KJINTF
                        Member
                        • Dec 2011
                        • 22
                        • usa

                        #12
                        Re: Sanyo DP42849 Backlight Shutsdown

                        Have you made any progress on the inverter transformer issue?

                        Power / Inverter board data - DPS-260LP A, P/N 1AV4U20C41500
                        I have the exact same board with a bit different symptom
                        Upon power on after afew seconds the backlights flash for less than one second
                        Looks as if the rest of the TV is functioning OK with Video and audio

                        Pin 9 to 10 measure 370 Ohms
                        Pin 5 to 6 27 Ohms

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                        • jazpa
                          New Member
                          • Dec 2012
                          • 5
                          • usa

                          #13
                          Re: Sanyo DP42849 Backlight Shutsdown

                          I have model dp42849 sanyo everything works good but the back light i jump the 5 volts to the bl-on and i still have nothing could that be my power board with my inverters built in or what can some one help me with this thanks

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                          • ztu165
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2013
                            • 87
                            • USA

                            #14
                            Re: Sanyo DP42849 Backlight Shutsdown

                            Guys let me jump in here I also have a SANYO DP42849 that powers up normal, but the backlights come on for a second and then turn off. I can hear sound and change channels, but can't see anything. I am new to this, just started a few months ago as a hobby, but it's been getting more and more challenging as I get more TV's. I replaced three mosfets closest to where the backlights connect, but this did not solve my problem.
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                            • ztu165
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2013
                              • 87
                              • USA

                              #15
                              Re: Sanyo DP42849 Backlight Shutsdown

                              Has anyone figured it out yet?

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                              • selldoor
                                Slow Learner
                                • Dec 2010
                                • 7870

                                #16
                                Re: Sanyo DP42849 Backlight Shutsdown

                                Originally posted by ztu165
                                Has anyone figured it out yet?
                                There are now 4 of you all with the same problem ,at the same time, so why not get together and do some comparison tests.

                                In my mind it is probably the inverter transformer - If that drives the bulbs directly ( I keep asking that but dont seem to get an answer) and the bulbs are good then not much else it could be as voltages seem generally good.

                                I have looked for the transformer before ( failed miserably with a red herring see link to earlier post) and concluded it was a proprietary component and would only be available if a board came available from a tv with a smashed panel. So you all need to keep in touch and hopefully prove me wrong.
                                Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                                • ztu165
                                  Senior Member
                                  • Jan 2013
                                  • 87
                                  • USA

                                  #17
                                  Re: Sanyo DP42849 Backlight Shutsdown

                                  Yes sir, the transformer drives the backlights directly, at least in my TV it does. I hope someone can find the transformers somewhere because I have had enough looking for them.

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                                  • KJINTF
                                    Member
                                    • Dec 2011
                                    • 22
                                    • usa

                                    #18
                                    Re: Sanyo DP42849 Backlight Shutsdown

                                    selldoor,

                                    To answer your question
                                    YES - the transformer secondary winding connects directly to the lamps via long cables. Mine has CN4 (pin 10 of transformer) and CN5 (pin #5 of the transformer) connecting

                                    I removed the connectors and placed a know good lamp on the output - No change after 2 seconds or so a very short duration flash of the lamp - nothing more. Additionally mine has some clear indication of excessive heat under the transformer secondary windings - IMO it looks like a very poor design for driving the lamps

                                    I too tend to believe it is the transformer - my static resistance readings are on post #12Plus the clear indication of excessive heat under the secondary windings

                                    Agreed the transformer most likely is a proprietary component - looks like this one is destined to be a parts donor

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                                    • martyparish
                                      Badcaps Veteran
                                      • Dec 2012
                                      • 313
                                      • United States

                                      #19
                                      Re: Sanyo DP42849 Backlight Shutsdown

                                      Hey guys,

                                      I think there are two options(in my humble opinion)

                                      1) Check this seller out on ebay who is selling "refurbished" PSUs for this TV. $125, but you get $50 core for old board. ($75 ain't too bad I guess)

                                      ebay board

                                      2) Rewind the transformer

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                                      • KJINTF
                                        Member
                                        • Dec 2011
                                        • 22
                                        • usa

                                        #20
                                        Re: Sanyo DP42849 Backlight Shutsdown

                                        I just started the second option - "Rewind the transformer"
                                        Will keep you posted

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