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  • tom66
    EVs Rule
    • Apr 2011
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    #101
    Re: Panasonic TX-37LX85P blink 3 times

    Is there an error output on the inverter; are the pins marked at all?
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    • rtstorm
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      • Feb 2012
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      #102
      Re: Panasonic TX-37LX85P blink 3 times

      should i check voltages on output in the picture?? I think this is high voltage, just to be sure? i see someone replaced the 3 capacitor
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      • tom66
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        • Apr 2011
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        #103
        Re: Panasonic TX-37LX85P blink 3 times

        Don't attempt to measure the high voltage output with meter - over 3000V present on some LCD TVs.

        How is the soldering on those caps? Try cleaning up flux.
        I see at least one missing - little SMD C6?

        I am trying to understand how the inverter is wired up to the main board. Looks like it goes through A13 perhaps?
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        • rtstorm
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          #104
          Re: Panasonic TX-37LX85P blink 3 times

          the solder is OK, i now cleaned it. Yes i see that someone is try to "repair" TV.
          Yes it is wired with the A board with A13, and with the power board with the P5
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          • tom66
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            • Apr 2011
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            #105
            Re: Panasonic TX-37LX85P blink 3 times

            On A13, there is a pin #4 called "INV_SOS". What does this measure? I think it should be low if OK, high if bad. Also, check INV_ON and INV_VCC; pins 2 and 1 respectively.

            Looking at the design of the board, it sends a 5V/12V power rail to the inverter for its logic power, alongside the 24V for the main power supply. I'm working right now on the assumption the power supply failed and sent 17V down the 9V line... this might have damaged the A board (causing your original 3 blinks)... then I think it may have reached the inverter VCC hopefully it's something simple like a blown fuse.
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            • rtstorm
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              #106
              Re: Panasonic TX-37LX85P blink 3 times

              #4 = 3.27V
              #1 goes to 12V but when clicks then 0V, then again 12V -> click -> 0V
              #2 = 0V
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              • tom66
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                • Apr 2011
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                #107
                Re: Panasonic TX-37LX85P blink 3 times

                OK, Vcc is OK, but the SOS signal should be a LOW. If you force it low (to pin 6 is fine) using 100~470 ohm resistor, does the TV do a blink code with inverter installed?
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                • rtstorm
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                  #108
                  Re: Panasonic TX-37LX85P blink 3 times

                  I used 100oHm resistor, but no change. Still blinking green LED, and clicking sound. I notice that #1 is not used (there is no wire)
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                  • tom66
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                    • Apr 2011
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                    #109
                    Re: Panasonic TX-37LX85P blink 3 times

                    What does INV_SOS measure on the A board side when you do this?
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                    • rtstorm
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                      #110
                      Re: Panasonic TX-37LX85P blink 3 times

                      is there difference if i connect resistor on A board or wire or inverter board. I think it is only important to get LOW signal. And what is LOW? is it ok if there is 1V or should be lower?
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                      • tom66
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                        • Apr 2011
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                        #111
                        Re: Panasonic TX-37LX85P blink 3 times

                        At either end is fine, we are trying to make it less than 0.8V which is the guaranteed low threshold of the 3.3V logic.
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                        • tw2005
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                          • Oct 2011
                          • 6458
                          • Australia

                          #112
                          Re: Panasonic TX-37LX85P blink 3 times

                          Your current LED indication sounds similar to this little LCD I fixed.
                          https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=23136

                          The PSU/inverter was all one unit and it had a shorted P channel H-FET which was situated on my set right before the inverters. On that one disconnecting the backlight allowed the green LED go solid for a moment then SOS1. The TV had already been tuned in so when an antenna was coinnected I did momentarily get sound from a channel.

                          You mentioned TPC8105 which is a P-channel H-FET. That's what they look like (8pins)

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                          • rtstorm
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                            #113
                            Re: Panasonic TX-37LX85P blink 3 times

                            i got 0V on #4 pin when i use the 100ohm resistor, should i try with lower resistor?
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                            • tom66
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                              • Apr 2011
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                              #114
                              Re: Panasonic TX-37LX85P blink 3 times

                              0V is fine, but since you've now disabled the error signal and you still get the blinking green I'd have a look at tw2005's advice.
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                              • rtstorm
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                                #115
                                Re: Panasonic TX-37LX85P blink 3 times

                                i measured the voltages, please have a look at them. I think that something is wrong here.
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                                • tom66
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                                  #116
                                  Re: Panasonic TX-37LX85P blink 3 times

                                  The 3~5V readings do not look good to me, something may be wrong there. With the board powered off, what resistance do you measure between the tab and each of the two pins? It should be >10kohm.
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                                  • rtstorm
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                                    #117
                                    Re: Panasonic TX-37LX85P blink 3 times

                                    by the tab you mean the plate? (screw) I measured, on one side is 29kOhm and other is 124kOhm (i measure the regulator pins that is 3.62V on picture)
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                                    • tom66
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                                      #118
                                      Re: Panasonic TX-37LX85P blink 3 times

                                      What is the part # on it?
                                      Yes tab = metal fin/plate at top of device.
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                                      • rtstorm
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                                        #119
                                        Re: Panasonic TX-37LX85P blink 3 times

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                                        • tom66
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                                          #120
                                          Re: Panasonic TX-37LX85P blink 3 times

                                          All of them?
                                          https://cdn.badcaps-static.com/pdfs/...5f51094b3a.pdf
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