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    Samsung LN46C630 LCD Backlight Problems

    I have a backlight issue with a Samsung LN46C630 LCD TV. At first, whenever I changed channels the backlight would start flickering. This would happen when the screen went black and then an image came back on. I also noticed I could get it to stop flickering by changing channels again which would change the screen to black and then back. I noticed that it wasn't just the source that was flickering. When I hit the menu button, that would flicker as well. At this point I figured it was a backlight issue. Over the course of the next few weeks, it become unable to be fixed by changing the channel or source. I then went into the menu to find the backlight control. It was set to a relatively high level (16/20). So I backed it back down to a lower level and the flickering went away. I was able to step the control higher to get a brighter picture as well, but once the screen went to black from either a channel change or switching to commercials, the flickering started again. At this point I lowered the backlight to zero. For the next two weeks or so, this resulted in no issues with the flickering, although the image was much dimmer. But then the flickering started again. I noticed that it was more apt to flicker after the screen had been on for a few hours.

    I did some research online (spent some time lurking up here for about a month) and noticed that there had been a lot of capacitor issues with samsung over the past few years. I took the back off and took off the power panel to examine the capacitors on there. I don't see any physical issues with it, and after looking to where the inverter board connects to the power board, I'm really unable to determine where my issue might be coming from. I'm an electrical engineer and have access to tools and parts to fix the boards, but without schematics and any experience with these boards I'm ill prepared to determine the cause of the backlight issue. It looks as though the power board isn't providing enough current to the inverter board.

    Thoughts?

    Here is a picture of the board. The inverter plugs into the two upper right connectors. The side connector looks like power and the top connector is some sort of control.


    #2
    Re: Samsung LN46C630 LCD Backlight Problems

    Also, the capacitors in the lower left corner are SANWHA WB 10V 1000uF. From other sites, it looks like those are usually the culprit. Is it possible they've failed and I just can't see any external damage?

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      #3
      Re: Samsung LN46C630 LCD Backlight Problems

      I replaced the 10V caps, but no fix. I'll try replacing the 25V caps. It looks like those actually control the 12V. And the driver for the inverter board is a 12V driver.

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        #4
        Re: Samsung LN46C630 LCD Backlight Problems

        What's the model of that IP-Board?
        There should be an IP-xxxxxx model (like "IP-211135A") number printed somewhere, or a BN44-00xxxx part numer (for example BN44-00199A).
        Sometimes, the BN44-number is on what looks like a serial number sticker, written as one blob (for example CN08BN4400199ASE38C3.....)

        If you're lucky, I might have the whole schematic for it..
        Last edited by Scenic; 01-09-2012, 10:47 PM.

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          #5
          Re: Samsung LN46C630 LCD Backlight Problems

          part number is BN44-00341B

          I thought i found a schematic on the internet somewhere. I've been out of town for work, so I haven't had a chance to mess with it since last week.

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            #6
            Re: Samsung LN46C630 LCD Backlight Problems

            check that, I found sites that say they have the manual, but no real working links.

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              #7
              Re: Samsung LN46C630 LCD Backlight Problems

              Originally posted by pandorazboxx View Post
              check that, I found sites that say they have the manual, but no real working links.
              Elektrotanya has it. Select the manual by clicking on the blue down arrow. On the next page wait until 'Get Manual' appears in the lower right had quadrant, then click on that.

              PlainBill
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                #8
                Re: Samsung LN46C630 LCD Backlight Problems

                ha, well, adblock was stopping me from downloading it before. It just kept saying processing. I'll give it a look.

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                  #9
                  Re: Samsung LN46C630 LCD Backlight Problems

                  Well, I'm wondering if this may be the trouble section:

                  http://imgur.com/cSSXv

                  CN803S, looks like it is the connector that goes to the inverter board. I don't have the board out of the TV at the moment, I'll double check later. But there appears to be 2 Caps and a varistor there. i'm wondering if any of them could be causing the CFFL lighting to flicker.
                  Last edited by pandorazboxx; 01-17-2012, 08:52 AM. Reason: varistor, not thermistor

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                    #10
                    Re: Samsung LN46C630 LCD Backlight Problems

                    nm, that's not the right connector. gotta take a look at the board.

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                      #11
                      Re: Samsung LN46C630 LCD Backlight Problems

                      Also, I just noticed this yesterday. When I turn it off then go to turn it back on a few minutes later, it doesn't turn on right away. The light blinks then nothing happens. I have to hit the power button a few times before it turns on, then it just has backlight flashing.

                      I paid a little closer attention and here is the part of the power board circuit that controls the power that goes to the inverter board. http://imgur.com/1v9Z4

                      The connection is the CNI801 to the right. There's a second wire that comes out of that connector, I'm assuming the neutral wire, but it's not shown on the schematic. I'll try to get an o-scope on this later.

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                        #12
                        Re: Samsung LN46C630 LCD Backlight Problems

                        This will fix the flickering problem 100%
                        For Samsung LN46C630 and the LN55C630 model.my th flickered like a strobe.
                        All input modes and temporary relief from turning off and on.
                        Samsung forgot to clip a jumper on these models. It takes 10 mins to fix.
                        Take off back panel (remove all philips screws outer edge)
                        1 screw where inputs plug in.
                        With back panel removed look on motherboard that power plugs into.
                        There are little thin aluminium wires called jumpers that lay flat on the board.
                        Each one has a name. Look for "JP852"
                        Snip it with nail clippers so it doesnt touch anymore.
                        That's it! ****always unplug power suply before starting****
                        This will work 100% it is on the samsung msg board and i did it two 2 tv's

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                          #13
                          Re: Samsung LN46C630 LCD Backlight Problems

                          Originally posted by techgod View Post
                          This will fix the flickering problem 100%
                          For Samsung LN46C630 and the LN55C630 model.my th flickered like a strobe.
                          All input modes and temporary relief from turning off and on.
                          Samsung forgot to clip a jumper on these models. It takes 10 mins to fix.
                          Take off back panel (remove all philips screws outer edge)
                          1 screw where inputs plug in.
                          With back panel removed look on motherboard that power plugs into.
                          There are little thin aluminium wires called jumpers that lay flat on the board.
                          Each one has a name. Look for "JP852"
                          Snip it with nail clippers so it doesnt touch anymore.
                          That's it! ****always unplug power suply before starting****
                          This will work 100% it is on the samsung msg board and i did it two 2 tv's
                          Wow - that is great info can you post the link to the samsung article
                          Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                            #14
                            Re: Samsung LN46C630 LCD Backlight Problems

                            Originally posted by techgod View Post
                            This will fix the flickering problem 100%
                            For Samsung LN46C630 and the LN55C630 model.my th flickered like a strobe.
                            All input modes and temporary relief from turning off and on.
                            Samsung forgot to clip a jumper on these models. It takes 10 mins to fix.
                            Take off back panel (remove all philips screws outer edge)
                            1 screw where inputs plug in.
                            With back panel removed look on motherboard that power plugs into.
                            There are little thin aluminium wires called jumpers that lay flat on the board.
                            Each one has a name. Look for "JP852"
                            Snip it with nail clippers so it doesnt touch anymore.
                            That's it! ****always unplug power suply before starting****
                            This will work 100% it is on the samsung msg board and i did it two 2 tv's
                            I've got a friend that's having the same issue with the LN46C630, I will try this and report back.

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                              #15
                              Re: Samsung LN46C630 LCD Backlight Problems

                              Originally posted by johnboy1313 View Post
                              I've got a friend that's having the same issue with the LN46C630, I will try this and report back.
                              My buddy dropped his tv off this evening. I powered it up and put a movie on. Once it started flickering I took the back panel off and let it run till it started flickering again (about five minutes). I snipped the jumper (I've actually read a lot of reviews on this and they all said that it worked). The set is running in the basement right now with no problems so far.

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                                #16
                                Re: Samsung LN46C630 LCD Backlight Problems

                                I've repaired two 46 Samsung gs by clipping the 852 jumper as well.

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                                  #17
                                  Re: Samsung LN46C630 LCD Backlight Problems

                                  I hope you realize that cutting the jumper defeat the LOW PFC Boosted Voltage protection circuit. The problem the real cause of the problem is due to bad PFC Feedback resistor network that drifted off the value.
                                  Never stop learning
                                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

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                                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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