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  • Jane
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2010
    • 188

    #1

    Any practical examples of success repairs

    Are there available( anywhere) any successful repairs of switched-mode power supplies?
    I found a few on YouTube but they were rather simple( e.g.changing dried capacitors ). I would like to see( and learn)how to solve more serious faults and not those trivial ones that can be seen at the first look.
    Thank you.
  • stj
    Great Sage 齊天大聖
    • Dec 2009
    • 30919
    • Albion

    #2
    Re: Any practical examples of success repairs

    shorted diodes or fets are common.
    cracked soldering is also common.

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    • retiredcaps
      Badcaps Legend
      • Apr 2010
      • 9271

      #3
      Re: Any practical examples of success repairs

      Some of these channels have SMPS repair beyond the simple bloated capacitor, but none that are dedicated.

      https://www.youtube.com/user/TheSignalPathBlog/videos

      https://www.youtube.com/user/norcal7...ow=grid&view=0

      https://www.youtube.com/user/Maxxarcade

      https://www.youtube.com/user/ATVVideoProductions/videos

      https://www.youtube.com/user/FFcossag/videos

      https://www.youtube.com/user/JonnyFixy/videos

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoGl7oeh7eU

      http://www.repairfaq.org/sam/smpsfaq.htm

      Sorry, I don't recall which exact episodes, but you can look and read through the titles for yourself.
      Last edited by retiredcaps; 08-05-2016, 01:15 PM.
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      • CapLeaker
        Leaking Member
        • Dec 2014
        • 7976
        • Canada

        #4
        Re: Any practical examples of success repairs

        to add to sti's comment:
        open resistors, or resistors that changed value outside the tolerance. PWMs that don't switch. Blown up gate drive circuit (when the Mosfet is shorted).

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        • Jane
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2010
          • 188

          #5
          Re: Any practical examples of success repairs

          Thank you for the replies but this thread is not closed :-)
          So if you find an interesting repair ( preferably describing a procedure from the beginning to a successful repair)
          It would be appreciated.
          Last edited by Jane; 08-06-2016, 12:35 AM.

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          • Marianelforum
            Dj Marik
            • Jul 2016
            • 26
            • Romania

            #6
            Re: Any practical examples of success repairs

            I do not know of repair stories on youtube ( did'nt searched for any ), but speaking from my own experiance, there are sometimes psu's that suffered too much damage to be worth fixing, just a few days ago i gave up fixing a rather interesting PC power supply because of the extensive damage, many thin copper traces practicly vaporised, traces that lead to many very small SMD components ( you can imagine the damage ), many power semiconductor's exploded, even some "coocked" power traces... So i have decided that it is not worth fixing it.

            Many well designed psu's have built in fail-safe's that can limmit the damage they can suffer from normal use especially when caps die ( and often they are the cause ), or even on some abuse. So you can end up sometimes with an easy fix.

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            • zx8401
              Phantom Fiddler
              • Aug 2013
              • 49
              • uk

              #7
              Re: Any practical examples of success repairs

              Originally posted by Jane
              Thank you for the replies but this thread is not closed :-)
              So if you find an interesting repair ( preferably describing a procedure from the beginning to a successful repair)
              It would be appreciated.
              I would say a basic knowledge of the typical blocks used in power supplys is very helpfull, there are many schematic diagrams on the outernet, look at most and you will see common designs/patterns.

              Pattern recognition is built into all of us, wear it out looking at schematics .
              Basic knowledge can get you a loooooooong way lol.

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              • keeney123
                Lauren
                • Sep 2014
                • 2536
                • United States

                #8
                Re: Any practical examples of success repairs

                I would start with something like this http://www.learnabout-electronics.org/PSU/psu30.php and learn each section and how they work. If you are unable to understand something then post it as there are many people on this sight that have a good understanding. Once understood, then you will need to have equipment to help you troubleshoot the power supply.
                Last edited by keeney123; 08-20-2016, 09:22 PM.

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                • budm
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 40746
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: Any practical examples of success repairs

                  Hers is one of many on BADCAPS.
                  https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=51797
                  Post #1~28.
                  Here is the success repair with 64 cents part, no visual sign of damage.
                  The common test that I always request the OP is to find out if we have DC on the main filter cap or not after the visual inspection and simple fuses testing.
                  But the the bottom line is that you need to know the basic electronics, about the components, how the power supply functions (in this case since you want to learn how to go about fixing the power supply), and lots of on hand experience. You have to at least be able identify each section of the power supply board even if you have never seen the board before, when you have been doing long enough you will see the pattern.

                  Originally posted by budm
                  OK, it is the same board.
                  You need to do resistance test on the Diodes D10, D21 (mounted on the heatsink), D22, and D23 to see if any of them show low resistance in both directions.
                  You probably wonder how I come up with that question for the OP about checking those particular 3 diodes but not ALL the diodes on the board.
                  Last edited by budm; 08-20-2016, 10:27 PM.
                  Never stop learning
                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                  • stj
                    Great Sage 齊天大聖
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 30919
                    • Albion

                    #10
                    Re: Any practical examples of success repairs

                    i changed a fuse.

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                    • everell
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 1514
                      • USA

                      #11
                      Re: Any practical examples of success repairs

                      Originally posted by Jane
                      Thank you for the replies but this thread is not closed :-)
                      So if you find an interesting repair ( preferably describing a procedure from the beginning to a successful repair)
                      It would be appreciated.
                      You asked for it, so here is the story of a smps power supply that was "burned up".

                      https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=9660
                      Old proverb say.........If you shoot at nothing, you will hit nothing (George Henry 10-14-11)

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                      • CapLeaker
                        Leaking Member
                        • Dec 2014
                        • 7976
                        • Canada

                        #12
                        Re: Any practical examples of success repairs

                        There are some I posted too. Also look at the NT5B01, there were a couple of funny behaving PSU's in there, that worked for a bit, then shut off.

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                        • Jane
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 188

                          #13
                          Re: Any practical examples of success repairs

                          Thank you ALL for the links
                          What measure equipment do you use to check transformer's windings?
                          Only LCR bridge? I also read about Anatek Blue Ring "Q" Meter Kit .
                          Does anyone use it?
                          Is it worth buying it?
                          Thanks again

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                          • budm
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 40746
                            • USA

                            #14
                            Re: Any practical examples of success repairs

                            I do not have the Blue ring tester, I use SENCORE LC-75.
                            http://preher-tech.com/documents/tes...ormersinlcdtvs
                            Never stop learning
                            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                            Inverter testing using old CFL:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                            TV Factory reset codes listing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                            • Jane
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 188

                              #15
                              Re: Any practical examples of success repairs

                              @budm: Thanks for the reply.But can you please explain why LCR bridge is not enough?
                              I still do not know why someone uses a device like a blue ring tester( or similar) and not LCR bridge instead.
                              Thank you

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                              • budm
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 40746
                                • USA

                                #16
                                Re: Any practical examples of success repairs

                                If you want to use LCR then you need to know the inductance of a known good transformer to see what inductance you get and compare it to the suspect bad transformer that has some shorted turn.
                                You can try that experiment with two transformers with same spec., then make one with shorted turn and one without and see what reading you get on the LCR.
                                Never stop learning
                                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                • budm
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Feb 2010
                                  • 40746
                                  • USA

                                  #17
                                  Re: Any practical examples of success repairs

                                  BTW, what tools do you have right now?
                                  And what kind of experience and knowledge base do you have?
                                  Able to read schematic?
                                  Last edited by budm; 08-22-2016, 09:41 PM.
                                  Never stop learning
                                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                  • stj
                                    Great Sage 齊天大聖
                                    • Dec 2009
                                    • 30919
                                    • Albion

                                    #18
                                    Re: Any practical examples of success repairs

                                    Originally posted by Jane
                                    Thank you ALL for the links
                                    What measure equipment do you use to check transformer's windings?
                                    Only LCR bridge? I also read about Anatek Blue Ring "Q" Meter Kit .
                                    Does anyone use it?
                                    Is it worth buying it?
                                    Thanks again
                                    blue-ring?

                                    that's the bob parker design.
                                    i made my own on stripboard.
                                    http://members.ozemail.com.au/~bobpar/fbt.htm
                                    Attached Files

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                                    • michael dranfield
                                      Badcaps Veteran
                                      • Jan 2016
                                      • 232
                                      • England

                                      #19
                                      Re: Any practical examples of success repairs

                                      I made this 16 years ago before the importance of effective series resistance had been fully appreciated.
                                      Attached Files

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                                      • Jane
                                        Senior Member
                                        • Aug 2010
                                        • 188

                                        #20
                                        Re: Any practical examples of success repairs

                                        @budm: I have DMM, LCR bridge with ESR meter, oscilloscope. I work with a company that repairs satellite receivers and mobile phones.Yes, I can read schematic.
                                        @stj: Thanks for the pdf file

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