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  • farmtech
    Member
    • Jan 2014
    • 14
    • United States

    #1

    LG 47LC7DF PSU dead

    Hello, wondering if anyone has a schematic for the LG 47LC7DF power supply board, PN EAY36781301. I replaced the usual bad caps 2 years ago but now the supply is completely dead, the only thing I can find is 5VSB reads about 1.9V. No parts read open or shorted that I can find, was hoping to find a schematic to troubleshoot the standby section of the supply board. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks,
    Nick
  • momaka
    master hoarder
    • May 2008
    • 12170
    • Bulgaria

    #2
    Re: LG 47LC7DF PSU dead

    Post some pictures of your power supply here. That way we can see what you are seeing.
    Also, what brand and series of caps did you use for your replacement caps?

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    • farmtech
      Member
      • Jan 2014
      • 14
      • United States

      #3
      Re: LG 47LC7DF PSU dead

      There is not much to see but I have attached some pics. The PSU is more or less dead, I am just hoping someone can point me to a schematic.

      Thanks
      Attached Files

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      • ReeceyBurger123
        Never Give Up !
        • May 2014
        • 7325
        • Britain

        #4
        Re: LG 47LC7DF PSU dead

        Heres a tip you should replace all the smaller capacitors as well they can cause no standby symptoms when they fail.
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        • farmtech
          Member
          • Jan 2014
          • 14
          • United States

          #5
          Re: LG 47LC7DF PSU dead

          I guess I will remove the rest of the electrolytics and see how they test. I will also remove and test the fets. Other than that I will be out of ideas without a schematic.

          Are LG PSU schematics really this hard to find? I can't seem to find it anywhere.

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          • budm
            Badcaps Legend
            • Feb 2010
            • 40746
            • USA

            #6
            Re: LG 47LC7DF PSU dead

            If you get the spec of the SMPS IC used in the STBY PS, you will see the application notes circuits showing how the IC is used, that is what I do when I do not have the diagram of the board, it does sound like bad startup-running caps.
            Is the STBY Voltage low without the main board connected to the power supply board?
            Never stop learning
            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

            Inverter testing using old CFL:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
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            TV Factory reset codes listing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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            • farmtech
              Member
              • Jan 2014
              • 14
              • United States

              #7
              Re: LG 47LC7DF PSU dead

              Yes, I get about 1.9 - 2.0V whether it is connected to anything or not. I will try to identify the SMPS IC but I have not been able to trace things very well without the schematic. Thanks.

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              • budm
                Badcaps Legend
                • Feb 2010
                • 40746
                • USA

                #8
                Re: LG 47LC7DF PSU dead

                Which one of these matched your board? Look at the barcode sticker.
                Up load good clear straight shot of both sides of the board so I can clearly see the parts and the traces on the board.
                Last edited by budm; 04-08-2016, 04:08 PM.
                Never stop learning
                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                • budm
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 40746
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: LG 47LC7DF PSU dead

                  I would replace those small caps in the primary side.
                  Attached Files
                  Never stop learning
                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                  • farmtech
                    Member
                    • Jan 2014
                    • 14
                    • United States

                    #10
                    Re: LG 47LC7DF PSU dead

                    I will check those out, thanks for the drawing.

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                    • farmtech
                      Member
                      • Jan 2014
                      • 14
                      • United States

                      #11
                      Re: LG 47LC7DF PSU dead

                      One of those small caps did not read on my capacitance meter but it was not shorted or open either, anyway I replaced it with no luck.

                      Today I replaced the rest of the small caps even though they tested good or at least close on my meter and sure enough the standby 5V was back. After re-assembly the TV is running again. Thanks for the help Budm.

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                      • budm
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 40746
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: LG 47LC7DF PSU dead

                        Thanks for the follow-up, more likely they have high ESR.
                        Did you test the ESR or just capacitance testing?
                        Never stop learning
                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                        • stj
                          Great Sage 齊天大聖
                          • Dec 2009
                          • 30993
                          • Albion

                          #13
                          Re: LG 47LC7DF PSU dead

                          this may be the blindspot of most meters - lack of ripple current handling.

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                          • Don Brotherson
                            New Member
                            • Jul 2018
                            • 3
                            • USA

                            #14
                            Re: LG 47LC7DF PSU dead

                            Well, after reading the posts, it seems unlikely that a schematic exists. That really makes it hard to identify ZD100, which broke in half probably when Q103 shorted. Or it could have been when I was trying to remove it. Either way, I can't identify the value of this ZD. Does anyone out there know this value ? Sure would appreciate it. Thanks !

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                            • budm
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 40746
                              • USA

                              #15
                              Re: LG 47LC7DF PSU dead

                              https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=65334
                              Never stop learning
                              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                              Inverter testing using old CFL:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                              TV Factory reset codes listing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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