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  • mikay786
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Aug 2014
    • 765
    • UK

    #1

    Should a transformer live/neutral pins have continuity?

    Just a quick question.

    Was wondering why the two pins on this transformer have continuity between them for live and ground. Is this normal? If not why would it be doing so?
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  • stj
    Great Sage 齊天大聖
    • Dec 2009
    • 30985
    • Albion

    #2
    Re: Should a transformer live/neutral pins have continuity?

    it's not "ground", it's negative.
    and it's normal because it's just a long coil of wire inside.

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    • mikay786
      Badcaps Veteran
      • Aug 2014
      • 765
      • UK

      #3
      Re: Should a transformer live/neutral pins have continuity?

      Thanks I thought I may have shorted it out somehow.

      bought a Sony mini hifi thing today, it all powers up but no sound from speakers. Just trying to figure out what's up with it.

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      • stj
        Great Sage 齊天大聖
        • Dec 2009
        • 30985
        • Albion

        #4
        Re: Should a transformer live/neutral pins have continuity?

        sound from headfones / any audio hum?

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        • mikay786
          Badcaps Veteran
          • Aug 2014
          • 765
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          #5
          Re: Should a transformer live/neutral pins have continuity?

          No hum or hiss, not tried headphones

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          • mikay786
            Badcaps Veteran
            • Aug 2014
            • 765
            • UK

            #6
            Re: Should a transformer live/neutral pins have continuity?

            sony mhc-s7av Nice little 4 stack system. Got some goodmans q70 speakers last week which i was hoping to pair with

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            • stj
              Great Sage 齊天大聖
              • Dec 2009
              • 30985
              • Albion

              #7
              Re: Should a transformer live/neutral pins have continuity?

              try with phones incase it's the switch in the socket.

              then check all the soldering on sockets,pots etc and anything stuck on a heatsink.

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              • SteveNielsen
                Retired Tech
                • Jun 2012
                • 2327
                • USA

                #8
                Re: Should a transformer live/neutral pins have continuity?

                Phones will tell you if the preamps and EQ circuits are working in case the problem is in the power amp only. If there's AC hum in the phones could also indicate bad filter caps in the power supply.

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                • budm
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 40746
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: Should a transformer live/neutral pins have continuity?

                  Service manual:
                  http://elektrotanya.com/sony_mhc-sv7.../download.html

                  Never stop learning
                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                  • mikay786
                    Badcaps Veteran
                    • Aug 2014
                    • 765
                    • UK

                    #10
                    Re: Should a transformer live/neutral pins have continuity?

                    Just getting a hum in headphones no music. When I push in half way hum in right earbud and when pushed in all way moves over to left ear.

                    I think ive identified a bad cap also

                    Rubycon 100v 100uf 85c YK Series - Theres a pair of them side by side located as per pic with red box

                    Filter caps are the bigs expensive one up front?

                    Could it be just these rubycon bulgers?
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                    Last edited by mikay786; 10-05-2015, 10:44 AM.

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                    • stj
                      Great Sage 齊天大聖
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 30985
                      • Albion

                      #11
                      Re: Should a transformer live/neutral pins have continuity?

                      if those are inline with the speaker outputs it could mean there was a bad speaker connected.

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                      • SteveNielsen
                        Retired Tech
                        • Jun 2012
                        • 2327
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: Should a transformer live/neutral pins have continuity?

                        From the pic I don't see any bulging on the 100uf Rubycons but that doesn't mean they are good or bad. Yes the power supply filters are the big caps at the top of the 2nd pic. I'd test them and the rectifiers, resistors and fuses in the power supply section where the big caps are.

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                        • mikay786
                          Badcaps Veteran
                          • Aug 2014
                          • 765
                          • UK

                          #13
                          Re: Should a transformer live/neutral pins have continuity?

                          They are close to the terminals

                          behind the heatsink

                          Would some Panasonic FC series be suitable replacements?
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                          • mikay786
                            Badcaps Veteran
                            • Aug 2014
                            • 765
                            • UK

                            #14
                            Re: Should a transformer live/neutral pins have continuity?

                            Its definitely bulging the 2nd one and has got a little crust on it. Ill try to get a better pic

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                            • mikay786
                              Badcaps Veteran
                              • Aug 2014
                              • 765
                              • UK

                              #15
                              Re: Should a transformer live/neutral pins have continuity?

                              Bulging right in the middle of the K with a small deposit there too on the cap with the red line
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                              • budm
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 40746
                                • USA

                                #16
                                Re: Should a transformer live/neutral pins have continuity?

                                You have three speaker relays, do you hear any one of them click on?
                                Those two caps are for the +/-VCC filter for the preamp of the STK audio IC.
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                                Last edited by budm; 10-05-2015, 11:14 AM.
                                Never stop learning
                                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                • mikay786
                                  Badcaps Veteran
                                  • Aug 2014
                                  • 765
                                  • UK

                                  #17
                                  Re: Should a transformer live/neutral pins have continuity?

                                  When you turn it on it clicks once I think

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                                  • budm
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Feb 2010
                                    • 40746
                                    • USA

                                    #18
                                    Re: Should a transformer live/neutral pins have continuity?

                                    Did you download the service manuals?
                                    Never stop learning
                                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                    • mikay786
                                      Badcaps Veteran
                                      • Aug 2014
                                      • 765
                                      • UK

                                      #19
                                      Re: Should a transformer live/neutral pins have continuity?

                                      Have done now that ive installed chrome.

                                      Removed main board and looks like someones already been in here and made a bit of a mess.

                                      That relay has been wrapped in black tape for some reason plus a bit of a bodge on solder side.
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                                      • stj
                                        Great Sage 齊天大聖
                                        • Dec 2009
                                        • 30985
                                        • Albion

                                        #20
                                        Re: Should a transformer live/neutral pins have continuity?

                                        someone probably opened the relay to clean the contacts and broke the clips on the shell.

                                        those coils dont look so good either!
                                        Last edited by stj; 10-05-2015, 01:36 PM.

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