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  • KeriJane
    Mac Enthusiast
    • Sep 2008
    • 681
    • USA

    #1

    Raidmax RX-300W PSU / Time Bomb

    It's been awhile since I messed around with a PSU.

    So recently, I happened across enough parts to put together a spare system. All set and running and just needing a small case.

    Frys had a case just the right size! A Raidmax R4 complete with SFX PSU... Cheap!

    I figured on buying a PSU anyway.
    So I ordered up a nice used Sparkle PSU from eBay.

    just for laughs, I dusted off the KerriProductions PSU tester and scope and extracted the Raidmax RX-300W from the case.

    My hunch was right. Single-speed fan howling away, blowing very, very warm air out.
    Voltages pretty OK, lets look at the ripple.
    5vsb got crazy ripple under a 1/2 amp load...something like 60mv
    3.3 and 5v not too bad.
    12v not horrible, maybe 60mv at 8A / 96w.

    But at a total load of maybe 160w, this thing is HOT. No chance of slowing the fan down a little.

    No way am I using this turkey... wait for the Sparkle to arrive.

    So apart it comes. Really, really horrible soldering and a very dark trace by a resistor. With less than 30 minutes run time! Uh oh. It just earned the title "Time Bomb".
    China's Finest Caps.
    ChengX 25v on the 12v, Yicon on the 5vsb and various ChengX and Chmec elsewhere. Most have an ESR around .03-.05Ω (new)

    Just for laughs, I thought why not waste a few perfectly good PWs in this thing?
    I made sure to bridge the burnt trace with a lead.

    Back on the scope and no big difference, really. 5vsb slightly better, 12v slightly worse under load.
    The big difference is under load. Much less heat coming out of this time bomb... it might actually survive!

    Still, I didn't feel that pushing this "300w" PSU much past the halfway point would serve any useful purpose. Why do I want to see huge ripple and stink up the house when it blows?

    So the Sparkle arrives. A whole world of difference. Great voltages, great ripple, very little heat and noise, even well over 200w. Mostly Teapo caps. Fantastic soldering. It was under $30 shipped, used, new are under $50.


    The system is happily running Ubuntu. Maybe I'll try the Win8 disc on it.



    Here's some pix.... sorry, I didn't take inside pics.
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    Last edited by KeriJane; 03-16-2012, 09:01 PM.
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  • momaka
    master hoarder
    • May 2008
    • 12170
    • Bulgaria

    #2
    Re: Raidmax RX-300W PSU / Time Bomb

    The low-end Raidmax units are bottom-of-the-barrel Sun Pro. They are the nastiest shit I've ever seen. I have a Raidmax RX-380K (Sun Pro KY-480ATX) PSU - it's not even worthy of a testbench PSU for testing basic electronics. Board is quite baked under the MOSFET and rectifier areas. I say pull out the PWs - they weren't mean for such crap. There's plenty of better low-end PSUs out there that are better than these low-end Sun Pro units.

    Originally posted by KeriJane
    sorry, I didn't take inside pics.

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    • Scenic
      o.O
      • Sep 2007
      • 2642
      • Germany

      #3
      Re: Raidmax RX-300W PSU / Time Bomb

      no PCB shows? aww

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      • momaka
        master hoarder
        • May 2008
        • 12170
        • Bulgaria

        #4
        Re: Raidmax RX-300W PSU / Time Bomb

        Yeah, I guess the lack of internal PSU shots pretty much killed all interest in this thread. At least we get to see the KeriJane Productions PSU load tester in action .

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        • Scenic
          o.O
          • Sep 2007
          • 2642
          • Germany

          #5
          Re: Raidmax RX-300W PSU / Time Bomb

          *shots

          the awkward moment when you realize it took you 3 days to notice a typo in your own post..

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          • pfrcom
            Oldbie
            • Jun 2006
            • 1230
            • Australia

            #6
            Re: Raidmax RX-300W PSU / Time Bomb

            Unusual these days to see a manufacturer showing their corporate motto on their labels

            But there is Raidmax's in Keri's first picture - the three letter acronym in the bottom right hand corner
            better to keep quiet and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt

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            • Agent24
              I see dead caps
              • Oct 2007
              • 4951
              • New Zealand

              #7
              Re: Raidmax RX-300W PSU / Time Bomb

              My friend gave me a dead Raidmax PSU a while back. I think there was an exploded resistor somewhere.

              But the best(?) part - the TOP side of the board looked like it had been attacked with a soldering iron by a blind person.

              There were components with soldering-iron-tip-shaped dents melted in them, and drops of solder everywhere. Real crap work.
              "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
              -David VanHorn

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              • b700029
                Banned
                • Sep 2010
                • 640

                #8
                Re: Raidmax RX-300W PSU / Time Bomb

                Originally posted by Agent24
                My friend gave me a dead Raidmax PSU a while back. I think there was an exploded resistor somewhere.

                But the best(?) part - the TOP side of the board looked like it had been attacked with a soldering iron by a blind person.

                There were components with soldering-iron-tip-shaped dents melted in them, and drops of solder everywhere. Real crap work.
                Raidmax = Powmax?

                I remember seeing pictures of the little kids who assemble these things on Powmax's site years ago. Maybe one of them just got a little curious. If you want I can go look for them, I think I saved them somewhere.

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                • Agent24
                  I see dead caps
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 4951
                  • New Zealand

                  #9
                  Re: Raidmax RX-300W PSU / Time Bomb

                  Originally posted by b700029
                  Raidmax = Powmax?

                  I remember seeing pictures of the little kids who assemble these things on Powmax's site years ago. Maybe one of them just got a little curious. If you want I can go look for them, I think I saved them somewhere.
                  Maybe they are Powmax, I have no idea.

                  Yeah, why not post the photos?
                  "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
                  -David VanHorn

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                  • b700029
                    Banned
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 640

                    #10
                    Re: Raidmax RX-300W PSU / Time Bomb

                    Found 'em!

                    Damn, they're cute. Not so sure I'd trust them to build a PSU properly though
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                    • Agent24
                      I see dead caps
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 4951
                      • New Zealand

                      #11
                      Re: Raidmax RX-300W PSU / Time Bomb

                      Originally posted by b700029
                      Not so sure I'd trust them to build a PSU properly though
                      I wonder if they even know what "PSU" means, or is the job requirement just "stick the right thing in the right holes most of the time"
                      "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
                      -David VanHorn

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                      • shovenose
                        Send Doge Memes
                        • Aug 2010
                        • 6575
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: Raidmax RX-300W PSU / Time Bomb

                        Originally posted by b700029
                        Found 'em!

                        Damn, they're cute. Not so sure I'd trust them to build a PSU properly though
                        HOLY SHIT IS THAT FOR REAL???

                        this is a joke right?

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                        • c_hegge
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 5219
                          • Australia

                          #13
                          Re: Raidmax RX-300W PSU / Time Bomb

                          Originally posted by b700029
                          Raidmax = Powmax?
                          Not quite. Raidmax usually use Sun Pro as their OEM for lower end stuff, and Powmax use Leadman. However, Leadman are partially owned by Sun Pro and sometimes use similar designs.
                          I love putting bad caps and flat batteries in fire and watching them explode!!

                          No wonder it doesn't work! You installed the jumper wires backwards

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                          • Agent24
                            I see dead caps
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 4951
                            • New Zealand

                            #14
                            Re: Raidmax RX-300W PSU / Time Bomb

                            Originally posted by shovenose
                            HOLY SHIT IS THAT FOR REAL???

                            this is a joke right?
                            Most photos I've seen from Chinese electronics factories look like this, at least, the ones they put on their websites.
                            "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
                            -David VanHorn

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                            • kc8adu
                              Super Moderator
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 8832
                              • U.S.A!

                              #15
                              Re: Raidmax RX-300W PSU / Time Bomb

                              so will you test to failure?
                              a raidmax isnt good for much else.
                              well maybe for basketball practice shooting for the can.dont worry they still work fine for that even after loss of smoke.
                              or my favorite use.hand/arm exercise crushing them.
                              hey more room in the can!

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                              • PeteS in CA
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Aug 2005
                                • 3579
                                • USA, Unsure of Planet

                                #16
                                Re: Raidmax RX-300W PSU / Time Bomb

                                shove, the ladies you think are your age or younger might be 20- or 30-somethings with kids who could be your younger siblings. There are many Asian people at the company where I work, and I wouldn't trust my guesstimates of their age to be better than +/- 10 years (based on the ones I've gotten to know).
                                PeteS in CA

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                                • Rulycat
                                  Badcaps Veteran
                                  • Apr 2010
                                  • 724
                                  • United Kingdom

                                  #17
                                  Re: Raidmax RX-300W PSU / Time Bomb

                                  Originally posted by Agent24
                                  Most photos I've seen from Chinese electronics factories look like this, at least, the ones they put on their websites.
                                  Thing is, working at these factories for many poor Chinese is actually a "good" job. That's why you see massive queues for Foxconn. Having said that I was reading in a recent Economist about "the end of cheap china" as it was called, the wages in China are on average rising 10%+ a year for this sort of work. China won't remain this way forever.

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