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  • 69d0b913
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    • Mar 2018
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    • BR

    #121
    Re: ThinkPad T14 Supervisor password

    Originally posted by Maxpower3
    you lose your info when you flash the "Mec16XXX".

    may want to reprogram better before the info!
    instead of using the maintenance diskette

    give me 2/3 dump for compare
    yes, at least in T14 the information is lost, and it is necessary to write back using the LMU to repair.

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    • 69d0b913
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      • Mar 2018
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      #122
      Re: ThinkPad T14 Supervisor password

      Originally posted by simkard
      So just to sum it up and be sure that I've totally understood how these new models are built/working regarding the supervisor password removal :

      After reading/writing MEC16xx chip with a blank/empty dump, there are some things that needs to be reconfigured.

      Technically, from my understanding, MEC16xx chip contains these informations (nothing else to declare ?) :
      • Machine type
      • Model Type
      • Country code
      • S/N / Serial Number
      • BIOS/Supervisor password
      • Computrace informations maybe ?


      While using the Lenovo HMD (Hardware Maintenance Diskette) v1.90, there are ways to fulfill these informations using option 20 or C0 and typing this sequency : 1STTTTMMMMCCSSSSSSSS which is composed of :
      • TTTT > Machine type
      • MMMM > Model Type
      • CC > Country code
      • SSSSSSSS > S/N / Serial Number


      So chronologically, steps would be :
      1. Solder wires on JTAG pins (close to the MEC16xx chip on the motherboard)
      2. Write an free from password dump of a MEC16xx chip
      3. Boot on the Lenovo HMD (hopefully no BIOS errors will be preventing from booting on an USB stick at that time)
      4. Use the option "20" or "C0" to fulfill the informations into the MEC16xx chip memory
      5. That's it ?


      Am I correct ?
      after doing the MEC16xx writing procedure the machine loses the information, so when using the LMU to write back, just writing some information fills the others, just start writing back the SN then the SN of the motherboard, vera that some other information will already be there, the UUID code is generated automatically by the LMU, that is, you only need to know the SN of the motherboard, the SG and the machine model, nothing more.

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      • simkard
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        • Jan 2022
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        #123
        Re: ThinkPad T14 Supervisor password

        Originally posted by 69d0b913
        after doing the MEC16xx writing procedure the machine loses the information, so when using the LMU to write back, just writing some information fills the others, just start writing back the SN then the SN of the motherboard, vera that some other information will already be there, the UUID code is generated automatically by the LMU, that is, you only need to know the SN of the motherboard, the SG and the machine model, nothing more.
        Thanks for your precisions/details on that one.
        Anyway, couldn't find out what is behind the acronym "LMU" ; May I ask for your help on that ?

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        • Maxpower3
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          • Feb 2018
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          #124
          Re: ThinkPad T14 Supervisor password

          Originally posted by 69d0b913
          yes, at least in T14 the information is lost, and it is necessary to write back using the LMU to repair.
          have you many EC dump of differents machines ?

          information is cryted, but SER# is présent in bios and EC . it's a mirror map

          you need several dumps to compare(bios +EC)
          Attached Files
          Last edited by Maxpower3; 01-28-2022, 07:35 PM.

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          • evserv
            Badcaps Veteran
            • Jun 2014
            • 347
            • Russia

            #125
            Re: ThinkPad T14 Supervisor password

            DMI information and password is stored in eeeprom. Only programmer Vertyanov can work with eeprom. That is, you read the eeprom, delete the password, write the modified eeprom back to the chip. After that, you have an unlocked laptop and all DMI information is intact.

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            • dycc
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              • Nov 2011
              • 624
              • Côte d'Ivoire

              #126
              Re: ThinkPad T14 Supervisor password

              Originally posted by simkard
              Thanks for your precisions/details on that one.
              Anyway, couldn't find out what is behind the acronym "LMU" ; May I ask for your help on that ?
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bt-sblFhxCM

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              • cgtec
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2014
                • 54
                • algeria

                #127
                Re: ThinkPad T14 Supervisor password

                the size corece of MEC1663 is 290K the program svod or vertyanov or rt809h can read just 288K or 256K ... the 4k have all information of laptop.

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                • echow2001
                  Member
                  • Dec 2016
                  • 38
                  • USA

                  #128
                  Re: ThinkPad T14 Supervisor password

                  just did a lot of t14 intel with rt809H programmer, use the provided pinout and solder jumper to the jtag. move the 10k resistor to enable jtag program and then dump EC memory, erase, write.

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                  • echow2001
                    Member
                    • Dec 2016
                    • 38
                    • USA

                    #129
                    Re: ThinkPad T14 Supervisor password

                    I've got the ryzen/AMD model of t14 gen 1 (board number NM-C801) on the way and apparently the pw also stored in EC ITE8300 and there's no JTAG connector. Can't find too much info on this chip online but RT809H seems to support programming it in circuit.

                    http://www.ifix.net.cn/thread-56902-1-1.html has some stuff on pinout

                    found this similar p/n online with more info IT8320

                    chromium OS source: https://chromium.googlesource.com/ch..._chip_it8320.h
                    https://chromium.googlesource.com/ch...il/iteflash.md

                    https://www.ite.com.tw/en/product/view?mid=96
                    Last edited by echow2001; 03-01-2022, 08:23 PM. Reason: add info

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                    • echow2001
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                      • Dec 2016
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                      • USA

                      #130
                      Re: ThinkPad T14 Supervisor password

                      Originally posted by echow2001
                      no JTAG connector
                      looks like this IC is programmed by parallel port interface rather than jtag, too many pin to practically solder, best to have breakout on keyboard zif

                      from datasheet of similar ITE embedded controller:
                      7.18.3.2 In-System Programming Operation
                      In-system programming takes place when VSTBY is supplied (other power is don’t-care) and both EC chip and
                      the flash are soldered on PCB. Parallel port interface occupies the same interface pins as KBS to use the
                      existing KBS connector.
                      IT8511 enters in-system programming mode if it detects parallel port signals when VSTBY power on or
                      hardware strap pin PPEN is pulled high. It can be disabled by OVRPPK/OVRPPEN bit in the KSICTRLR
                      register
                      If Parallel Port cable is detected by internal hardware strap, the following functions will be disabled.
                      1. ROM Address Match Interrupt
                      2. Internal/External Watchdog
                      will also have to see if the IT8300 uses internal or external flash for EC, if its external itll be ez just dump it with any 25xx flash tool like tl866ii, ch341a, rt809x etc etc
                      Last edited by echow2001; 03-01-2022, 08:48 PM.

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                      • andrew25
                        Badcaps Veteran
                        • Feb 2016
                        • 220
                        • Malawi

                        #131
                        Re: ThinkPad T14 Supervisor password

                        Originally posted by 69d0b913
                        what would be a "prom dmi utility" the EC has already been extracted and edited from the bios downloaded from the site.
                        can you share me the ec file please... its urgent

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                        • b4rdock
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2017
                          • 95
                          • usa

                          #132
                          Re: ThinkPad T14 Supervisor password

                          Originally posted by 69d0b913
                          After a lot of persistence I was able to remove the bios password from T14! I believe that few here know how to do it and no one shares it, I understand that certain types of information are not shared and are sold! But I persistently come to inform you that the (Thinkpad T14 1st 20S1) was unlocked by an RT809H the only programmer I have. Here are photos in the attachment, now all that remains is to reverse the bios information, but I had taken a photo first of all.

                          after read mec , how you unlock the bin file ?

                          regards

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                          • Verlengsnoer
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2016
                            • 109
                            • Netherlands

                            #133
                            Re: ThinkPad T14 Supervisor password

                            Can someone unlock my t14?
                            i tryed the autopatcher but keeps flying away, and dont get any patched file,

                            hope someone can help
                            Attached Files

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                            • SMDFlea
                              Super Moderator
                              • Jan 2018
                              • 20272
                              • UK

                              #134
                              Re: ThinkPad T14 Supervisor password

                              Originally posted by Verlengsnoer
                              Can someone unlock my t14?
                              i tryed the autopatcher but keeps flying away, and dont get any patched file,

                              hope someone can help
                              Read through some of the previous posts, only possible via JTAG ,as far as i know.
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                              • am123321
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                                • Mar 2022
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                                • USA

                                #135
                                Re: ThinkPad T14 Supervisor password

                                I am your companion in misfortune. Help me, please.
                                Last edited by SMDFlea; 03-29-2022, 10:44 AM.

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                                • onizzbox
                                  Banned
                                  • Nov 2018
                                  • 604
                                  • Brazil

                                  #136
                                  Re: ThinkPad T14 Supervisor password

                                  Originally posted by am123321
                                  I am your companion in misfortune. Help me, please.
                                  @am123321
                                  Not being money or solving the war in Ukraine, we can try to help them.

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                                  • datodati962@gmail.com
                                    Member
                                    • May 2020
                                    • 48
                                    • alb

                                    #137
                                    Re: ThinkPad T14 Supervisor password

                                    Originally posted by echow2001
                                    I've got the ryzen/AMD model of t14 gen 1 (board number NM-C801) on the way and apparently the pw also stored in EC ITE8300 and there's no JTAG connector. Can't find too much info on this chip online but RT809H seems to support programming it in circuit.

                                    http://www.ifix.net.cn/thread-56902-1-1.html has some stuff on pinout

                                    found this similar p/n online with more info IT8320

                                    chromium OS source: https://chromium.googlesource.com/ch..._chip_it8320.h
                                    https://chromium.googlesource.com/ch...il/iteflash.md

                                    https://www.ite.com.tw/en/product/view?mid=96
                                    Can you share more information about t14 Gen1 the way correct how to make remove supervisor password and how to read with rt809h,if is possible to be more specific,thanks!

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                                    • simkard
                                      Member
                                      • Jan 2022
                                      • 14
                                      • France

                                      #138
                                      Re: ThinkPad T14 Supervisor password

                                      Hello everyone,

                                      Any update on how to remove supervisor password in EC / ITE ?
                                      Pretty sure it's just a procedure similar to MacBooks with replacing "FF" to some region in the dump.

                                      Thanks !

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                                      • simkard
                                        Member
                                        • Jan 2022
                                        • 14
                                        • France

                                        #139
                                        Re: ThinkPad T14 Supervisor password

                                        Originally posted by 69d0b913
                                        after doing the MEC16xx writing procedure the machine loses the information, so when using the LMU to write back, just writing some information fills the others, just start writing back the SN then the SN of the motherboard, vera that some other information will already be there, the UUID code is generated automatically by the LMU, that is, you only need to know the SN of the motherboard, the SG and the machine model, nothing more.
                                        Hello 69d0b913,

                                        Is there any way to read the configuration before overwriting it using the HMD/LMU ?

                                        By the way, what is the difference between HMD and LMU ?


                                        Thanks

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                                        • danito
                                          Badcaps Veteran
                                          • Jun 2016
                                          • 842
                                          • Romania

                                          #140
                                          Re: ThinkPad T14 Supervisor password

                                          Originally posted by onizzbox
                                          @danito
                                          Yes, for all Lenovo models
                                          How? Are you kind enough to tell me? I have TL866II plus. Does it work? What do I need?
                                          Thx

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