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  • wzamoyski
    Member
    • Mar 2022
    • 27
    • Poland

    #1

    ThinkPad P50 no power on

    Hello,

    I'm looking for pointers/ideas:
    - Lenovo Thinkpad P50.
    - motherboard: BP500, NM-A451, VER 1.0
    - schematics & Boardview: https://www.badcaps.net/forum/troubl...ic#post3242496

    - CPU: SR2FU (i7-6820HQ)
    - GPU: N16P-Q1-A2 (Quadro M1000M)
    - MEC1653-BA1

    When I switch on power supply motherboard take maximum 0.070A (without battery), LED1 is on after few second drop to 0.032A (LED1 is off). Pressing power button - case is the same.


    Voltage/resistance:
    • PL1 - 0.506V / 38kΩ
    • PL3 - 0.00V / 86.7kΩ
    • PL4 - 5.131V / 6kΩ
    • PL5 - 3.369V / 6kΩ and higher
    • PL6 - 0.00V / 2.3 Ω
    • PL7 - 0.00V / 2.3 Ω
    • PL8 - 0,00V / 2.3 Ω
    • PL9 - 0.00V / 4.0 Ω
    • PL10 - 0.00V / 4.0 Ω
    • PL11 - 0.00V / 12Ω
    • PL14 - 0.00V / 64kΩ
    • PL16 - 0.00V / 29.4Ω
    • PL17 - 1.020V / 70Ω
    • PL19 - 0.00V / 7.07 kΩ
    • PL103 - 0.00V / 9.0 Ω
    • PL107 - 0.00V / 8,5 Ω
    • PL108 - 0.00V / 171 Ω
    • PL109 - 0.00V / 388 Ω
    • L6 - 0.005V / 0.685kΩ
    • 8 l.on SPI - 2.578MΩ
    I didn't find any corrosion's, mechanical damages, etc. I tried new BIOS, but not working. I think VCCCPUCORE, VCCGFXCORE_I and VCCSA​ (according to schematic).


    Thank you for any advice.
  • mon2
    Badcaps Legend
    • Dec 2019
    • 13935
    • Canada

    #2
    Review the charger IC @ PU1.

    Measure the voltage to ground for the following pins of interest:

    VCC ; pin 28
    ACDET ; pin 6
    ACOK ; pin 5
    ACP ; pin 2
    ACN ; pin 1
    REGN ; pin 24

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    • nivminkov
      Member
      • Dec 2020
      • 15
      • Israel

      #3
      Probably not the issue but what about the main power rail? Does is shows in every input for the regulators? (on the input capacitors)

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      • wzamoyski
        Member
        • Mar 2022
        • 27
        • Poland

        #4
        Measurement (power supply/ original adapter):
        • VCC ; pin 28 - 19,80V / 19.93V
        • ACDET ; pin 6 - 2.67V / 2.69V
        • ACOK ; pin 5 - 3.272V / 3.272V
        • ACP ; pin 2 - 20.39V / 20.52V
        • ACN ; pin 1 - 20.39V / 20.52V
        • REGN ; pin 24 - 6.002V / 6.002V


        When I try measure voltage on pin 6 (ACDET) current strength dropped to 0.009A.​

        Originally posted by nivminkov
        Probably not the issue but what about the main power rail? Does is shows in every input for the regulators? (on the input capacitors)
        Main power rail is good. After PR2 I have 20.39V.

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        • nivminkov
          Member
          • Dec 2020
          • 15
          • Israel

          #5
          I think you should verify that there is input voltage for every buck input. Most likely it will 😭
          I also think your EC chip is gone. This is also the problem in a laptop I'm trying to repair. Main voltage present and also 3.3V and 5V. No shorts anywhere. I saw sorin from YouTube trying to fix a problem like this and he couldn't do it. He Replaced the EC chip and reprogrammiled it but still no luck. I hope you'll fix yours. Maybe flashing the bios memory chip with external programmer may help, but I'm not sure.
          Try to look for your EC chip in Google and check if someone really succeed to replaced it.

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          • mcplslg123
            Badcaps Legend
            • Jun 2015
            • 7262
            • india

            #6
            What about PL13? Does it have 1.2V?

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            • wzamoyski
              Member
              • Mar 2022
              • 27
              • Poland

              #7
              Originally posted by mcplslg123
              What about PL13? Does it have 1.2V?
              Resistance: PL13 - 92Ω, no voltage.


              Originally posted by nivminkov
              I also think your EC chip is gone. This is also the problem in a laptop I'm trying to repair. Main voltage present and also 3.3V and 5V. No shorts anywhere. I saw sorin from YouTube trying to fix a problem like this and he couldn't do it. He Replaced the EC chip and reprogrammiled it but still no luck. I hope you'll fix yours. Maybe flashing the bios memory chip with external programmer may help, but I'm not sure.
              I flashed BIOS memory without any effects. Hmm... I think my job is done here - I don't have programmer to EC.

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              • mon2
                Badcaps Legend
                • Dec 2019
                • 13935
                • Canada

                #8
                There are vendors who sell the EC pre-flashed for this target laptop brand. Check eBay and AliExpress.

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                • mcplslg123
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Jun 2015
                  • 7262
                  • india

                  #9
                  You've not even reached S4 stage as ram coil voltage is missing. So the failure is in initial stage only. PM_SLP_SX rails status?

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                  • wzamoyski
                    Member
                    • Mar 2022
                    • 27
                    • Poland

                    #10
                    Originally posted by mcplslg123
                    You've not even reached S4 stage as ram coil voltage is missing. So the failure is in initial stage only. PM_SLP_SX rails status?
                    I can't find PM_SLP_SX. But if You need:
                    TP987 - 3.369V
                    TP988 - 3.369V
                    TP989 - 3.359V
                    TP990 - 3.369V

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                    • mcplslg123
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Jun 2015
                      • 7262
                      • india

                      #11
                      I mean PM_SLP_S5/S4 etc.

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                      • wzamoyski
                        Member
                        • Mar 2022
                        • 27
                        • Poland

                        #12
                        Originally posted by mcplslg123
                        I mean PM_SLP_S5/S4 etc.
                        According to schematic available are -PCH_SLP_S0, -PCH_SLP_S3, -PCH_SLP_S5 etc.

                        Laptop return to owner.

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